OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Kizz Fastfists]

We were hard capped after the Giddey/Caruso trade...is it still the case after lindy waters trade?

OKC shouldn't be hard capped because they took Caruso into cap space. If they are it would be at the first apron and irrelevant. There is almost no path for OKC to hit the first apron unless they decline the team options for Joe and Wiggins and give them max contracts.

[Devilanche]

If and only if everything else strike out.

Kuzma for Kenrich + 1 future protected first.

So we didn’t trade any big of note nor signed any in free agency.

The finals ended 10 days ago.

The salary cap year hasn't even officially ticked over to 24-25 yet.

We gotta be patient.

Was just replying to the idea posted a few post above mine. Not an idea worth for me to revisit then.

In any case , still kind of early to get pitch forks out for not getting anyone over 6’9”

[ThunderBolt]

I demand you remove the slanderous screenshot in your signature. I will not have my good name besmirched.

He’s alive!

[Pillendreher]

I demand you remove the slanderous screenshot in your signature. I will not have my good name besmirched.

He’s alive!

My hate for Samuel Presti is going to keep me going well past my 120s.

[Andre Roberstan]

We were hard capped after the Giddey/Caruso trade...is it still the case after lindy waters trade?

OKC shouldn't be hard capped because they took Caruso into cap space. If they are it would be at the first apron and irrelevant. There is almost no path for OKC to hit the first apron unless they decline the team options for Joe and Wiggins and give them max contracts.

They are, but as you say, it's irrelevant. With the new CBA rules you're hard capped if you take more money back than you send out.

It's unnecessarily punitive but apparently they wanted it that way

[Andre Roberstan]

Double post, but the Ringer has a pretty good graphic here:

Read on Twitter

Basically, the moment you do any of these things, you can no longer go above the apron.

[Dadouv47]

Would you rather add Lauri for 6 FRPs (4 unprotected), Cam Johnson for two FRPs and a swap or Hartenstein for free? Cam Johnson > Hartenstein > Lauri to me.

[Woerzboerg]

If they decide not to extrend Joe and Wiggins (and not to save money for renegotiation of Carusos contract), I'd try to bring in both of Hartenstein and Johnson. We will need a deep team in this stacked west. Otherwise one injury could cost us the season.

[Dadouv47]

If they decide not to extrend Joe and Wiggins (and not to save money for renegotiation of Carusos contract), I'd try to bring in both of Hartenstein and Johnson. We will need a deep team in this stacked west. Otherwise one injury could cost us the season.

today is a big day...better hope we don't decline both Wiggins/Joe options.

[ThunderBolt]

If we only pick one, I prefer Wiggins.

[Dadouv47]

If we only pick one, I prefer Wiggins.

and let Isaiah Joe walk? I like Wiggins as a player more but I think Joe's shooting is more important to OKC.

[cjmcallist]

If we only pick one, I prefer Wiggins.

and let Isaiah Joe walk? I like Wiggins as a player more but I think Joe's shooting is more important to OKC.

We should be able to decline Wiggins, keep his cap hold on, and then re-sign him later, no?

For Joe, we don’t have bird rights yet so I’d rather pick up the option and re-sign him next year.

[cjmcallist]

Also - Markkanen leaks from UTA are the signal: trader Danny wants to move him. Make it happen Presti. It’s time.

[cjmcallist]

Would you rather add Lauri for 6 FRPs (4 unprotected), Cam Johnson for two FRPs and a swap or Hartenstein for free? Cam Johnson > Hartenstein > Lauri to me.

Good question. Give me Lauri all day long.

For me, Lauri > Johnson > Hartenstein

Hartenstein is a good backup, but he’s also the flavor of the day.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Would you rather add Lauri for 6 FRPs (4 unprotected), Cam Johnson for two FRPs and a swap or Hartenstein for free? Cam Johnson > Hartenstein > Lauri to me.

Hartenstein isn't going to be considered. He can't shoot. Lauri and Cam are both over 6'6 eliminating them from being options. I guess Chet for Cam could work as that be replacing a 7 footer with a 6'8 player and Presti might consider that since it would make the team smaller. Lauri is a 7 footer and we have too many on the team already.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Good question. Give me Lauri all day long.

For me, Lauri > Johnson > Hartenstein

Hartenstein is a good backup, but he’s also the flavor of the day.

Hartenstein is trash for how OKC plays. He has to be in the paint and OKC isn't going to bring in a center that can't stretch the floor. Someone is going to overpay Hartenstein. He's a MLE level player, but some team with an incompetent GM will give him $22M+/yr.

[Dadouv47]

Would you rather add Lauri for 6 FRPs (4 unprotected), Cam Johnson for two FRPs and a swap or Hartenstein for free? Cam Johnson > Hartenstein > Lauri to me.

Good question. Give me Lauri all day long.

For me, Lauri > Johnson > Hartenstein

Hartenstein is a good backup, but he’s also the flavor of the day.

I love Lauri don't get me wrong but the asking price from Utah + the next contract is scary as hell. He's very injury prone and was mostly healthy with Utah but they allowed him to rest a lot. He never played more than 68 games/season which is fine in the regular season but not when u are trying to play and win 4 playoff series. We can afford to rest him too during the season but he's still a risk (in a similar way of Porzingis but Lauri will cost more and will get paid a lot more too).

I would rather use the assets required to trade for Lauri + the money for two elite role players. I just think that we don't need another star, just very good players to surround our big 3. Lauri is still a risky move but I do understand those who want to go all in with him even if I wouldn't personally go for it.

That being said, if u tell me that Presti is either going for Lauri or standing pat, I would still pick the Lauri option.

[mr570]

I really really hope OKC gets Ivisic or one of the other "unicorn" centers from next year's draft. I *still* don't understand/like what they did with this draft, but next year has a surplus of the type of player that they have shown they will play at the big positions.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I really really hope OKC gets Ivisic or one of the other "unicorn" centers from next year's draft. I *still* don't understand/like what they did with this draft, but next year has a surplus of the type of player that they have shown they will play at the big positions.

Topic at #12 made sense. You take someone that was at one time considered the top prospect and dropped way to far over an ACL, which is an easy surgery/recovery. I view it as similar to Denver taking Michael Porter Jr. when he fell to them after getting hurt in college. Topic's injury is much less severe and unlikely to be a long-term issue. I don't like the negative wingspan, but he's going to be a very good NBA player and I'm going to stand by my commits before the wingspan became an issue that he ends up the best player out of this draft.

The Dillon Jones trade I didn't like. He's Giddey lite. He was the primary ball handler in college and OKC doesn't need someone to take the ball out of the hands of SGA, JDub, Chet, etc. He drives hard to the basket and plays hard defense. He racks up steals, 2 a game and the all-time leader at Weber State. He did pull down 9.8 rebounds a game. He's not a good 3pt shooter, 32% for his college career, although his FT% implies he might be able to improve there. He's not a young prospect, he's 22 already. He's one of the old school Presti picks where grabs a defensive guy who is going to struggle to find a role in the offense. I'm having Andre Roberson flashbacks with this one, although Jones shouldn't be completely incompetent as a shooter. Filipowski, Tyler Smith and others were there that could have come in and filled the need for a backup big that can stretch the floor and rebound. There was a better version of the same player sitting on the board named Enrique Freeman.

Ajay Mitchell was confusing as they could have gone for a better fit in Enrique Freeman or high upside in Ulrch Comche and instead went with another PG that shoots when they are now loaded with shooters. I get the fit with Mitchell, but Freeman would have fit perfectly with their 5-man out style as a big time rebounding combo forward that has developed a decent 3pt shot and will continue to improve, has some decent ball skills and basically does everything they could want out of the PF spot.

[Andre Roberstan]

If they decide not to extrend Joe and Wiggins (and not to save money for renegotiation of Carusos contract), I'd try to bring in both of Hartenstein and Johnson. We will need a deep team in this stacked west. Otherwise one injury could cost us the season.

today is a big day...better hope we don't decline both Wiggins/Joe options.

two likely paths here: OKC signs/trades for someone using cap and re-signs Joe/Wiggins over the cap, or they just turn the cap space into bigger Joe/Wiggins contracts LOL