2024 NBA Draft - Chicago Bulls select Matas Buzelis with the 11th pick

[Muzbar]

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Interesting jersey number.

[kulaz3000]

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Interesting jersey number.

Yeah, I'd assumed that Craig would be gone, who wears 13 currently, but maybe he is staying.

[HomoSapien]

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Interesting jersey number.

Seems disrespectful to Robert Parish's legacy in Chicago.

[CROBulls]

He wore #13 in highschool and #13 with Ignite. So it's really weird choice to wear #00

[d boy gentleman]

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Interesting jersey number.

Yeah, I'd assumed that Craig would be gone, who wears 13 currently, but maybe he is staying.

Apparently, Torrey was seen working out at the Advocate Center...

[ChiTownHero1992]

He wore #13 in highschool and #13 with Ignite. So it's really weird choice to wear #00

I see 3-4 likely scenarios:

A) Craig is somehow staying so he doesn't want to change

B) Doesn't want it out of respect for Noah - possible being a CHicago kid and fan

C) Maybe the Bulls are wising up and gonna retire #13 so they told him pick something else?

D) Just wanted a change of pace?

[kulaz3000]

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[fleet]

For all kinds of unique reasons specific to each team that drafted in front of us. Great players slide all the time. I don't understand your question.

Because I truly have no idea. To give you an idea of my level of interest in the Bulls and NBA these days, I can’t name a single player in this draft other that Matas. Great players slide all the time yes. Givony’s top player at one point, Matas was putting himself back to that level, this is quite a fall.

Is it quite a fall though? I say he was projected anywhere between 5-9 in most mock drafts, so yeah, he fell some, but I don't think it was some significant fall either. If you look at the players who leapt above Matas as far as the mock projections goes, it was Edey, Salaun, and to a degree Holland. Edey being a surprise but not a surprise pick by the Grizzlies, Salaun, I think was a slight reach, and Holland really doesn't fit with the Pistons, but has probably the most upside - I'd say Holland and Matas flipped in terms of projections in mock drafts.

From being in the conversation of Givony’s #1 pick, it is. Which is why I prefaced the question with “If a valid scouting report”. Perhaps not (valid) is what you’re in essence saying. Again, I don’t know the draft at all. The question wasn’t about Matas really. It was about Givony’s scouting report being valid or not. It was quoted in this thread. I wanted to understand the reasons why it was. Was it old? Outdated as a guide to Matas’ value?

[Hold That]

Tanking for Cooper Flagg is the final piece.. get rid of everybody, gut it down to the studs.

Flagg and Matas would be interesting

[Red8911]

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That’s a dumb number to wear. Are people going to buy his jersey with a 00 ? I wouldn’t. Coby has the 0 too, what are you doing Matas!

Hopefully when Craig officially leaves 13 will open up again and he ll t change it to that instead like his g league number.

[Red8911]

He wore #13 in highschool and #13 with Ignite. So it's really weird choice to wear #00

I see 3-4 likely scenarios:

A) Craig is somehow staying so he doesn't want to change

B) Doesn't want it out of respect for Noah - possible being a CHicago kid and fan

C) Maybe the Bulls are wising up and gonna retire #13 so they told him pick something else?

D) Just wanted a change of pace?

You think they should retire Noah’s number ?? Nahh we all loved him but definitely doesn’t deserve that. If he gets it then one day no numbers will be available and players will have to pick stpd numbers like 00 or worse. Honestly Rose doesn’t deserve it either, not enough team success.

[Muzbar]

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That’s a dumb number to wear. Are people going to buy his jersey with a 00 ? I wouldn’t. Coby has the 0 too, what are you doing Matas!

Hopefully when Craig officially leaves 13 will open up again and he ll t change it to that instead like his g league number.

I'd absolutely buy his jersey with that number. It's pretty unique, I don't see the problem, it's just a number.

[Ben Wilson25]

After watching so many Matas videos on Youtube, this podcast with the Lakers head coach popped up.

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For those who didn’t watch this, JJ asked him what players he tried to model his game after when he was young. Matas said he would watch highlights on his computer and then go outside and try to recreate the highlights. JJ said “So you were watching like KD highlights?” and Matas says “JR Smith. I loved JR Smith.”

[chicago paxsons]

He wore #13 in highschool and #13 with Ignite. So it's really weird choice to wear #00

I see 3-4 likely scenarios:

A) Craig is somehow staying so he doesn't want to change

B) Doesn't want it out of respect for Noah - possible being a CHicago kid and fan

C) Maybe the Bulls are wising up and gonna retire #13 so they told him pick something else?

D) Just wanted a change of pace?

You think they should retire Noah’s number ?? Nahh we all loved him but definitely doesn’t deserve that. If he gets it then one day no numbers will be available and players will have to pick stpd numbers like 00 or worse. Honestly Rose doesn’t deserve it either, not enough team success.

We've been a team for almost 60 years and have retired 4 numbers, so the idea we'll run out of numbers anytime soon is hyberbole. Frankly, if you look at our franchise history, if noah doesn't deserve having his number retired, then who does aside from jordan and pippen?

We're not the celtics or lakers who win championships seemingly every decade. Does that mean that no one who plays/has played for us deserves to be acknowledged for their contributions as a bull just because they never brought us a championship?

We have plenty of players in our history who deserve to have their numbers retired, but haven't because the 90s bulls created an unfair expectation for every bull that came before and will come after.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Tanking for Cooper Flagg is the final piece.. get rid of everybody, gut it down to the studs.

Flagg and Matas would be interesting

They workout together

[Muzbar]

I see 3-4 likely scenarios:

A) Craig is somehow staying so he doesn't want to change

B) Doesn't want it out of respect for Noah - possible being a CHicago kid and fan

C) Maybe the Bulls are wising up and gonna retire #13 so they told him pick something else?

D) Just wanted a change of pace?

You think they should retire Noah’s number ?? Nahh we all loved him but definitely doesn’t deserve that. If he gets it then one day no numbers will be available and players will have to pick stpd numbers like 00 or worse. Honestly Rose doesn’t deserve it either, not enough team success.

We've been a team for almost 60 years and have retired 4 numbers, so the idea we'll run out of numbers anytime soon is hyberbole. Frankly, if you look at our franchise history, if noah doesn't deserve having his number retired, then who does aside from jordan and pippen?

We're not the celtics or lakers who win championships seemingly every decade. Does that mean that no one who plays/has played for us deserves to be acknowledged for their contributions as a bull just because they never brought us a championship?

We have plenty of players in our history who deserve to have their numbers retired, but haven't because the 90s bulls created an unfair expectation for every bull that came before and will come after.

I'm with Red on this.

Why does Noah deserve to have his jersey retired, particularly over the likes of Rodman, Horace, Artis Gilmore etc etc, same goes with Rose (and I love Rose). I get they gave us the most exciting times since the Dynasty, but other than making 1 ECF what else have they done?

I loved that Noah/Rose Bulls team, they were amazing and I think 1 piece away from making a real run at the finals, and who knows, maybe if Rose doesn't get injured they maybe make that run, but they never did so what's the point?

[ChiTownHero1992]

You think they should retire Noah’s number ?? Nahh we all loved him but definitely doesn’t deserve that. If he gets it then one day no numbers will be available and players will have to pick stpd numbers like 00 or worse. Honestly Rose doesn’t deserve it either, not enough team success.

We've been a team for almost 60 years and have retired 4 numbers, so the idea we'll run out of numbers anytime soon is hyberbole. Frankly, if you look at our franchise history, if noah doesn't deserve having his number retired, then who does aside from jordan and pippen?

We're not the celtics or lakers who win championships seemingly every decade. Does that mean that no one who plays/has played for us deserves to be acknowledged for their contributions as a bull just because they never brought us a championship?

We have plenty of players in our history who deserve to have their numbers retired, but haven't because the 90s bulls created an unfair expectation for every bull that came before and will come after.

I'm with Red on this.

Why does Noah deserve to have his jersey retired, particularly over the likes of Rodman, Horace, Artis Gilmore etc etc, same goes with Rose (and I love Rose). I get they gave us the most exciting times since the Dynasty, but other than making 1 ECF what else have they done?

I loved that Noah/Rose Bulls team, they were amazing and I think 1 piece away from making a real run at the finals, and who knows, maybe if Rose doesn't get injured they maybe make that run, but they never did so what's the point?

Personally if I had my way Rodman, Gilmore, Van Lier (mostly media not necessarily a # for his playing similar to Krause and Kerr), and Rose for sure would all be retired.

Gilmore - Obvious reasons
Rodman - Obvious reasons but could see them never pursuing it as it was only 3 years with the team
I do think Rose will get it MVP, ROY, rejuvinated basketball in Chicago, he deserves it
Noah i think is close as well (Top 12 in MVP voting 2x, multi-DPOY candidate, etc)

[chicago paxsons]

You think they should retire Noah’s number ?? Nahh we all loved him but definitely doesn’t deserve that. If he gets it then one day no numbers will be available and players will have to pick stpd numbers like 00 or worse. Honestly Rose doesn’t deserve it either, not enough team success.

We've been a team for almost 60 years and have retired 4 numbers, so the idea we'll run out of numbers anytime soon is hyberbole. Frankly, if you look at our franchise history, if noah doesn't deserve having his number retired, then who does aside from jordan and pippen?

We're not the celtics or lakers who win championships seemingly every decade. Does that mean that no one who plays/has played for us deserves to be acknowledged for their contributions as a bull just because they never brought us a championship?

We have plenty of players in our history who deserve to have their numbers retired, but haven't because the 90s bulls created an unfair expectation for every bull that came before and will come after.

I'm with Red on this.

Why does Noah deserve to have his jersey retired, particularly over the likes of Rodman, Horace, Artis Gilmore etc etc, same goes with Rose (and I love Rose). I get they gave us the most exciting times since the Dynasty, but other than making 1 ECF what else have they done?

I loved that Noah/Rose Bulls team, they were amazing and I think 1 piece away from making a real run at the finals, and who knows, maybe if Rose doesn't get injured they maybe make that run, but they never did so what's the point?

That's not what i said. It's not noah or rodman, horace, gilmore, etc...

The list of players who's numbers i want retired -

- chet walker
- norm van lier
- artis gilmore
- horace grant
- dennis rodman
- derrick rose
- luol deng
- joakim noah

They all had individual success while having team success, except for gilmore when it comes to team success. Their team success just didn't lead to championships, aside from grant and rodman, but walker, van lier, rose, deng, and noah were instrumental on teams that both went to the conference finals. To every team that didn't have a dynasty, reaching the conference finals would be a huge achievement and we should treat it as such.

[Muzbar]

We've been a team for almost 60 years and have retired 4 numbers, so the idea we'll run out of numbers anytime soon is hyberbole. Frankly, if you look at our franchise history, if noah doesn't deserve having his number retired, then who does aside from jordan and pippen?

We're not the celtics or lakers who win championships seemingly every decade. Does that mean that no one who plays/has played for us deserves to be acknowledged for their contributions as a bull just because they never brought us a championship?

We have plenty of players in our history who deserve to have their numbers retired, but haven't because the 90s bulls created an unfair expectation for every bull that came before and will come after.

I'm with Red on this.

Why does Noah deserve to have his jersey retired, particularly over the likes of Rodman, Horace, Artis Gilmore etc etc, same goes with Rose (and I love Rose). I get they gave us the most exciting times since the Dynasty, but other than making 1 ECF what else have they done?

I loved that Noah/Rose Bulls team, they were amazing and I think 1 piece away from making a real run at the finals, and who knows, maybe if Rose doesn't get injured they maybe make that run, but they never did so what's the point?

That's not what i said. It's not noah or rodman, horace, gilmore, etc...

The list of players who's numbers i want retired -

- chet walker
- norm van lier
- artis gilmore
- horace grant
- dennis rodman
- derrick rose
- luol deng
- joakim noah

They all had individual success while having team success, except for gilmore when it comes to team success. Their team success just didn't lead to championships, aside from grant and rodman, but walker, van lier, rose, deng, and noah were instrumental on teams that both went to the conference finals. To every team that didn't have a dynasty, reaching the conference finals would be a huge achievement and we should treat it as such.

I didn't say that's what you said, that was my case for why Noah shouldn't have his jersey number retired.

We appear to be somewhat in agreeance.

[NecessaryEvil]

Flagg, Ace Bailey or Dylan Harper up next pls

What’s up with our Portland pick?!?