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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#221 » by D Rog » Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:09 am

I would have thought the Bulls could have gotten a FRP along with Giddy for Caruso.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#222 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:37 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:Just say no to a LaVine trade to the Jazz.

Also, OKC just traded Giddey to the Bulls straight up for Caruso. I remember the good old days when OKC fans tried to make him the main piece in a trade for Markkanen. You knew they were desperate to move them when they started offering trading Giddey for Collins. Good times.


Great time. We already had the Ricky Rubio experience and overpaid for him… Thanks Dennis
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#223 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:33 pm

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Inigo Montoya wrote:Just say no to a LaVine trade to the Jazz.

Also, OKC just traded Giddey to the Bulls straight up for Caruso. I remember the good old days when OKC fans tried to make him the main piece in a trade for Markkanen. You knew they were desperate to move them when they started offering trading Giddey for Collins. Good times.


Great time. We already had the Ricky Rubio experience and overpaid for him… Thanks Dennis

I didn't mind Rubio. I think he was the least of the Jazz's issues.
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KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
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Post#224 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:07 pm

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Inigo Montoya wrote:Just say no to a LaVine trade to the Jazz.

Also, OKC just traded Giddey to the Bulls straight up for Caruso. I remember the good old days when OKC fans tried to make him the main piece in a trade for Markkanen. You knew they were desperate to move them when they started offering trading Giddey for Collins. Good times.


Great time. We already had the Ricky Rubio experience and overpaid for him… Thanks Dennis

I didn't mind Rubio. I think he was the least of the Jazz's issues.


I liked Rubio and don’t think he was the issue but doesn’t change my point of we overpaid for him.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#225 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:39 pm

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This doesn't seem like a good direction for the Jazz. I don't think the potential of losing next years draft pick is worth it for Lavine.

Yeah, I don't see Lavine and Markk taking the Jazz to the WCF while taking up nearly $100M of their cap.
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Post#226 » by SoCalJazzFan » Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:45 pm

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I honestly don't get this rumor at all.
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Post#227 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:03 pm

I hope this is just Harris' agent trying to drum up interest and using the Jazz and possibly the Pistons to that end.
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KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
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Post#228 » by Jampod » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:54 am

If Paul George ends up staying with the Clippers, I think Markkannen is gone. The price is already high after the Bridges trade, but Markkannen is next in line after George.
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Post#229 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:18 am

Jampod wrote:If Paul George ends up staying with the Clippers, I think Markkannen is gone. The price is already high after the Bridges trade, but Markkannen is next in line after George.


Doubt it. No team with only young guys ever succeed.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#230 » by D Rog » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:02 am

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Jampod wrote:If Paul George ends up staying with the Clippers, I think Markkannen is gone. The price is already high after the Bridges trade, but Markkannen is next in line after George.


Doubt it. No team with
only young guys ever succeed.


Define "succeed"

Getting a combination of 1 or 2 young prospects and a few more potential lottery picks during the next 3-4 years.

Per Ainge they are going big game hunting but if that doesn't pan out, they will have to pivot. The "pivot" is moving Markkannen, in August / September or next trade deadline
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#231 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:44 pm

D Rog wrote:
AingesBurner wrote:
Jampod wrote:If Paul George ends up staying with the Clippers, I think Markkannen is gone. The price is already high after the Bridges trade, but Markkannen is next in line after George.


Doubt it. No team with
only young guys ever succeed.


Define "succeed"

Getting a combination of 1 or 2 young prospects and a few more potential lottery picks during the next 3-4 years.

Per Ainge they are going big game hunting but if that doesn't pan out, they will have to pivot. The "pivot" is moving Markkannen, in August / September or next trade deadline

I don't view pivoting as moving Markkannen between now and the trade deadline. I view pivoting as moving away from attempting to sign franchise altering/playoff contending vets and focusing on the development of the young players and resetting the timeline in line with a 1-2 year tank, while extending Markk.

Pivoting might mean unloading a few of the vets, such as the JCs, though.
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Post#232 » by Rauxcee » Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:54 pm

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I honestly don't get this rumor at all.


I had to come out of hiding for this one.

Is this the rumor from like 7 years ago when we were interested in him? Unless we are getting paid to take him off Philly's hands, the Jazz should have zero interest.

Imagine rolling out next season with John Collins and Tobias Harris getting significant play time. Yikes.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#233 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:02 pm

Rauxcee wrote:I had to come out of hiding for this one.

Is this the rumor from like 7 years ago when we were interested in him? Unless we are getting paid to take him off Philly's hands, the Jazz should have zero interest.

Imagine rolling out next season with John Collins and Tobias Harris getting significant play time. Yikes.


To be fair, he's now a free agent and no longer a terrible contract, but he doesn't really fit the timeline at 31 and will probably still look for a significant contract. I don't see the fit, especially with Collins, Markkanen, Hendricks, and now Williams and Flip. Too many players, not enough minutes.
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The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#234 » by Rauxcee » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:08 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
Rauxcee wrote:I had to come out of hiding for this one.

Is this the rumor from like 7 years ago when we were interested in him? Unless we are getting paid to take him off Philly's hands, the Jazz should have zero interest.

Imagine rolling out next season with John Collins and Tobias Harris getting significant play time. Yikes.


To be fair, he's now a free agent and no longer a terrible contract, but he doesn't really fit the timeline at 31 and will probably still look for a significant contract. I don't see the fit, especially with Collins, Markkanen, Hendricks, and now Williams and Flip. Too many players, not enough minutes.


I didn't even realize he was a free agent. It makes even less sense now.
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Post#235 » by bkohler » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:42 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:I don't view pivoting as moving Markkannen between now and the trade deadline.


I've been thinking about this lately and wonder if it actually makes the most sense to keep Lauri regardless to be able to attempt to package him and some picks next year to get one of the top prospects in next year's draft. We've got so many picks now that instead of getting a bunch more, getting a guaranteed spot makes more sense. I could see us landing the 5th pick next year and then using Lauri + the CLV and MIN picks to try and get another top 5 pick and then have two blue-chip prospects to rebuild around instead of a plethora of theoretical players in the future.
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Post#236 » by bkohler » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:56 pm

Also, I just want to leave both of these here, it feels like we've seen this story before:


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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#237 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:21 pm

bkohler wrote:
SoCalJazzFan wrote:I don't view pivoting as moving Markkannen between now and the trade deadline.


I've been thinking about this lately and wonder if it actually makes the most sense to keep Lauri regardless to be able to attempt to package him and some picks next year to get one of the top prospects in next year's draft. We've got so many picks now that instead of getting a bunch more, getting a guaranteed spot makes more sense. I could see us landing the 5th pick next year and then using Lauri + the CLV and MIN picks to try and get another top 5 pick and then have two blue-chip prospects to rebuild around instead of a plethora of theoretical players in the future.

I'm stuck on thinking about him with the Jazz long term, but that is a good take on a plausible outcome.
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Post#238 » by WinterSoldier » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:12 pm

bkohler wrote:Also, I just want to leave both of these here, it feels like we've seen this story before:


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This has always been the game get the most assets possible. Based on the Bridges trade if the Jazz can get more for Markkanen then they almost have to trade him.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#239 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:16 pm

The Hawks just traded Murray to the Pelicans. And of course they acquired more wings because they still didn't have enough.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276355/Pelicans-Acquire-Dejounte-Murray-From-Hawks-For-Larry-Nance-Jr-Dyson-Daniels-Two-First-Round-Picks
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KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#240 » by red4hf » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:22 pm

What teams actually have the assets to make a legit offer for Laurie? I don't think there's that many.......

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