Official Trade Thread Part XLVI

FAH1223 · Post #1181 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:56 am

lastemp3ror wrote:If this draft ends with Kuzma still on the team, I will be very disappointed.

He’s on the team until February atleast.

Don’t get your hopes up

badinage · Post #1182 » by **badinage** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:13 am

FAH1223 wrote:
lastemp3ror wrote:If this draft ends with Kuzma still on the team, I will be very disappointed.

He’s on the team until February atleast.

Don’t get your hopes up

But why? Because he’ll have more value then?

FAH1223 · Post #1183 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:34 am

badinage wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
lastemp3ror wrote:If this draft ends with Kuzma still on the team, I will be very disappointed.

He’s on the team until February atleast.

Don’t get your hopes up

But why? Because he’ll have more value then?

Probably.

gambitx777 · Post #1184 » by **gambitx777** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:22 am

We probably just didn't get the offer we wanted from sac. We wait and see what we can get at the dead line

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9 and 20 · Post #1185 » by **9 and 20** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:01 am

Kuz is never getting traded. Every Tuesday and Thursday is Kuz bobblehead night. None of them will be in Wiz unis. Each will be in some ridiculous outfit, each with different color hair.

Starting lineup - Brogdon/Poole/Ariza/Bagley/Sarr. 6 wins.

lastemp3ror · Post #1186 » by **lastemp3ror** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:06 am

FAH1223 wrote:
badinage wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:He’s on the team until February atleast.

Don’t get your hopes up

But why? Because he’ll have more value then?

Probably.

This could bite them in the behind if he gets injured between now and then.

It is obvious the front office is still in the "renovation" mode, which means Kuzma isn't and shouldn't be in their long-term plans. Being that Kuzma is a volume shooter, it isn't a good idea to keep him, let the young guys find their shot. And if they can't find their shot, then management can evaluate what is needed in 2025/2026. Management will have a harder time making evaluations with Kuzma around. Long story short, Kuzma should have been traded yesterday, for many reasons.

Dark Faze · Post #1187 » by **Dark Faze** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:55 pm

I can't believe we couldn't have gotten a late lotto pick without involving Deni. We had Kuz, Kispert, the Phoenix assets, etc. Kispert is 25 years old. You have to imagine he's going to get moved. He's unlikely to accept a team friendly deal like Deni on his extension knowing that he could be moved to some other team immediately with no say in the matter.

Frichuela · Post #1188 » by **Frichuela** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:05 pm

Dark Faze wrote:I can't believe we couldn't have gotten a late lotto pick without involving Deni. We had Kuz, Kispert, the Phoenix assets, etc. Kispert is 25 years old. You have to imagine he's going to get moved. He's unlikely to accept a team friendly deal like Deni on his extension knowing that he could be moved to some other team immediately with no say in the matter.

Unfortunately, this video would indicate Kuzma, Kispert and Poole are here for the foreseeable future.

I said this before, maybe keeping Kuzma goes beyond sport reasons, it’s about Turd selling merchandise…

Read on Twitter

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The Consiglieri · Post #1189 » by **The Consiglieri** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:54 pm

I do have to admit I'm pretty damn concerned. It started w/the bull---- that he didn't want to go to Dallas and they actually cared what he wanted (and hilarious that he didnt view them as a real contender), then he opens a freaking restaurant, and now he's still in house, but we traded Deni.

Ted is just the type of dip---- who'd keep a guy in house for publicity and marketing, who happens to be the the best of a lean collection of options we have left to move for rebuilding. HE IS THAT STUPID.

Of course it's also possible we just ship him out next deadline. The only thing I'll note is something I said this past winter deadline and which someone echo'd. Do you really want to risk what happened to the Guardians with Bieber? Thought about moving him at the July baseball deadline, kept him, almost traded him during the winter meetings, didn't get the offer they wanted, then he blows out his arm and has tommy john a week into the season. A Cy Young contender who could have recouped tons of goodies, gone for NOTHING. That's the risk you run by persisting in keeping him in house. It's a dangerous dance to indulge.

keynote · Post #1190 » by **keynote** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:06 pm

Why does anyone think Kuzma is marketable? He's a non-all-star. I don't think anyone outside of family, close friends, and Winnie Harlow are going to the games because of Kuzma. The fact that the team has used him for bobble heads is irrelevant. The marketing team's job is to market the players, highlight their personalities, and make them fun. Once Kuz moves on, they'll just make bobbleheads of someone else. Rest assured we'll see them trot out "Bub"-lehead Night next year.

If the Wizards haven't traded Kuz yet, it's for basketball reasons, not marketability reasons.

The Consiglieri · Post #1191 » by **The Consiglieri** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:57 pm

keynote wrote:Why does anyone think Kuzma is marketable? He's a non-all-star. I don't think anyone outside of family, close friends, and Winnie Harlow are going to the games because of Kuzma. The fact that the team has used him for bobble heads is irrelevant. The marketing team's job is to market the players, highlight their personalities, and make them fun. Once Kuz moves on, they'll just make bobbleheads of someone else. Rest assured we'll see them trot out "Bub"-lehead Night next year.

If the Wizards haven't traded Kuz yet, it's for basketball reasons, not marketability reasons.

There are zero basketball reasons to keep him.

AFM · Post #1192 » by **AFM** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:00 pm

Which is why it’s hard to trade him. There are zero basketball reasons to trade for him.

payitforward · Post #1193 » by **payitforward** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:44 pm

Come on guys.... You know where I stand on Kuz as a basketball player, not to mention Poole!

All the same, that video was a really nice thing to see. Great that they reached out to welcome Sarr, offered to help any way they could, etc.

keynote · Post #1194 » by **keynote** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:48 pm

The Consiglieri wrote:
keynote wrote:Why does anyone think Kuzma is marketable? He's a non-all-star. I don't think anyone outside of family, close friends, and Winnie Harlow are going to the games because of Kuzma. The fact that the team has used him for bobble heads is irrelevant. The marketing team's job is to market the players, highlight their personalities, and make them fun. Once Kuz moves on, they'll just make bobbleheads of someone else. Rest assured we'll see them trot out "Bub"-lehead Night next year.

If the Wizards haven't traded Kuz yet, it's for basketball reasons, not marketability reasons.

There are zero basketball reasons to keep him.

I'd put "angling for a better deal" as a basketball season.

spaceman_E · Post #1195 » by **spaceman_E** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:31 am

spaceman_E wrote:If ATL goes Risacher at 1.01 would they accept #26 for AJ Griffin to get a little cheaper at the end of their bench and re-set the clock on a rookie?
AJ was a very solid shooter as a rookie but then out of the rotation last season. I don't think we will find a better 3+D wing late in this first round and if he plays well we can deal Kispert instead of paying him 8 figures to be a 6th man.

sucks to be right. would rather have Griffin than anything I've read about George. Apparently could have gotten more in return to boot

payitforward · Post #1196 » by **payitforward** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:47 am

spaceman_E wrote:
spaceman_E wrote:If ATL goes Risacher at 1.01 would they accept #26 for AJ Griffin to get a little cheaper at the end of their bench and re-set the clock on a rookie?
AJ was a very solid shooter as a rookie but then out of the rotation last season. I don't think we will find a better 3+D wing late in this first round and if he plays well we can deal Kispert instead of paying him 8 figures to be a 6th man.

sucks to be right....

Not sure what you mean -- are you saying that Atlanta would have given us Griffin for the #26 pick in this draft? What makes you think so?

spaceman_E wrote:...Apparently could have gotten more in return to boot

Griffin plus "more... to boot" for the #26 pick? Can you point to a source for this? Just asking....

Menace2Sobriety · Post #1197 » by **Menace2Sobriety** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:03 am

https://www.nba.com/news/hawks-rockets-aj-griffin-trade-2024-nba-draft

Another smart move by the Rockets

spaceman_E · Post #1198 » by **spaceman_E** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:08 am

payitforward wrote:Not sure what you mean -- are you saying that Atlanta would have given us Griffin for the #26 pick in this draft? What makes you think so?

Griffin plus "more... to boot" for the #26 pick? Can you point to a source for this? Just asking....

<--- look up

but it is what it is, hopefully George works out

gambitx777 · Post #1199 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:11 am

AFM wrote:Which is why it’s hard to trade him. There are zero basketball reasons to trade for him.

That's just untrue.

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AFM · Post #1200 » by **AFM** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:18 am

gambitx777 wrote:
AFM wrote:Which is why it’s hard to trade him. There are zero basketball reasons to trade for him.
That's just untrue.

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I’m exaggerating a little bit. But clearly we aren’t getting what we thought we could for him. So we jettisoned Deni instead.