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Re: Draft Discussion 

Post#81 » by Danny Darko » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:01 am

Like worthy's take and also if you think of fish I think this kid could get their as a cieling and that's great at 55


I also would not be surprised if LeBron takes off and the father son thing doesn't happen. I do hope for a year of it for all the reasons mostly development, but I hope LeBron is gone retired or better traded next year unless he looks like a solution to our needs
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Post#82 » by Landsberger » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:47 pm

Rearranging the chairs on the deck guys. "Leadership" of the team has been following LeBron's lead since he got here. He want's the limelight on him and his kid.... he'll jump to Vegas as a team owner and bring his kid along. Why the greatest franchise in the game has to play along with this crap is maddening.

Ownership gets more eyes... not because the product got better... because we're the halftime show.
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Post#83 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:16 pm

Landsberger wrote:Rearranging the chairs on the deck guys.


Sure...but almost without exception, that's all a #55 pick is anyways, right?

My views on the team are pretty clear around here. There's no way I think we just "turned the ship around". And I get your point that the reasoning behind this is pathetic. But at the end of the day....it's the 55th pick. We all knew it was gonna happen.

I know you've been a fan forever.....well I'm at 40+ years myself....and so we both know the Lakers are all about being "the show". Sometimes its awesome, and sometimes its a hot mess. Yeah....this was a cheesy move, but we're the slut at the party. Have been since I was watching. Magic demanding Westhead get canned was just the start in my time. But I'm sure there were some juicy's before that. And ever since....the Lakers have been that chick at the party with the nice legs, and huge tits, who drinks too much. Is this any worse than getting Rodman? Certainly not worse than Phil bumping West outa here. I mean hell....except for Phil (who let's be honest....wasn't like he was coach for 12 years or something. It was like 4-5 years, and then off to write a tell-all book about us) It's been a coach carousel since Riley left. That was 30 years ago.

So anyways...this is just a blip with the 55th pick.....who I think is gonna turn into a pretty good player in a couple years. It's lame...but totally on brand. I'm just glad they were able to do this with #55. I had no expectations about that pick anyhow. One of those rare moments where the hot drunk chick doesn't annoy me. Cause I think they dumb-lucked themselves into quite a good player.

If he leaves in 6-7 years to join his dad in Vegas....we'll prob get some picks back (if he's good) and if not....then oh well....55th pick down the drain. I'm gonna enjoy this one. I get worked up enough around here anyways.
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Post#84 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:54 pm

Up-And-Coming wrote:
LakersSoul wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:Asking for a friend, what’s the difference between thie guy and Svi Mykhailluk? both shot great from college, both over 21 years old. Svi is actually listed 6-8 and now finding a hard time playing regular minutes. But hey, he has the same number of rings as Anthony Davis lol


knecht could struggle in NBA. But Knecht is longer limbs, quicker and jumps higher. He also is a dawg after dealing as underdog for all his life yet took on the leadership role for Vols.

Svi was just a shooter with TRex arms.


Agreed. Knecht is a bit shorter (1.25 inches shorter) but he has the more prototypical athletic body frame conducive to playing well in the NBA with a longer wingspan 6'9" compared to Svi's negative 2 inch wingspan (6'4.75" inch), broader shoulders, better lane agility, better standing vert/max vert, leaner muscle/less body fat (similar frame to Bogdan Bogdanovic of the Hawks) and that stuff is cool on paper but it more importantly appeared to translate better in their college games.

While both were elite college shooters, Knecht was able to do so as the clear cut #1 option on the Tennessee Elite Eight team while Svi peaked as the #2 option and sometimes #3 option on Kansas. Knecht also wasn't just limited to being a spot up shooter but he was good at cutting, pull up shooting, mid-range and just more physical driving with force as evident with his nearly 6 free throw attempts vs Svi's 1.5 attempts per game and showed flashes of being a better rebounder. They had contrasting play-style demeanors as well with Svi tending to be a bit more passive while Knecht had a more aggressive drive and motor to him like LakersSoul mentioned.

I hope and pray you both are right about this guy because I remember a 6-8 guy who was the number scoring option in his final college year averaged 28 points, 43% from 3 and did great in the NCAA tourney. His name?…..
Adam Morrison
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Post#85 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:00 pm

Landsberger wrote:Rearranging the chairs on the deck guys. "Leadership" of the team has been following LeBron's lead since he got here. He want's the limelight on him and his kid.... he'll jump to Vegas as a team owner and bring his kid along. Why the greatest franchise in the game has to play along with this crap is maddening.

Ownership gets more eyes... not because the product got better... because we're the halftime show.


news flash, Lakers are trash because they have the Narcissistic, selfish overrated Primadonna who is infecting this team with his deadly virus and this club will be so much better if he just leaves right now.
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Post#86 » by LAKESHOW » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:22 pm

When had a rookie impacted this team? Not even Kobe as a rookie made much of an impact. You have to go back to Magic in 1979. A 1st pick.
In other words, this pick ain't our problem. And I'm not fkn concerned about a 2nd.round scrub selection.
WE GOT BIGGER FISH TO FRY! Like this roster of Bigs. Like our shooting. Like our defending of teams like Minnesota. Denver. Dallas. These are serious threats to even get out of the west. And then win it all.. THATS THE PRIZE! THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Ain't no 2nd round guard gonna make a difference in that. Not even a dent
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Post#87 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:14 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Rearranging the chairs on the deck guys. "Leadership" of the team has been following LeBron's lead since he got here. He want's the limelight on him and his kid.... he'll jump to Vegas as a team owner and bring his kid along. Why the greatest franchise in the game has to play along with this crap is maddening.

Ownership gets more eyes... not because the product got better... because we're the halftime show.


news flash, Lakers are trash because they have the Narcissistic, selfish overrated Primadonna who is infecting this team with his deadly virus and this club will be so much better if he just leaves right now.


Just one of many reasons I never wanted him and everyone had a go at me about It happening and some still do. :)
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Post#88 » by Up-And-Coming » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:09 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
Up-And-Coming wrote:
LakersSoul wrote:
knecht could struggle in NBA. But Knecht is longer limbs, quicker and jumps higher. He also is a dawg after dealing as underdog for all his life yet took on the leadership role for Vols.

Svi was just a shooter with TRex arms.


Agreed. Knecht is a bit shorter (1.25 inches shorter) but he has the more prototypical athletic body frame conducive to playing well in the NBA with a longer wingspan 6'9" compared to Svi's negative 2 inch wingspan (6'4.75" inch), broader shoulders, better lane agility, better standing vert/max vert, leaner muscle/less body fat (similar frame to Bogdan Bogdanovic of the Hawks) and that stuff is cool on paper but it more importantly appeared to translate better in their college games.

While both were elite college shooters, Knecht was able to do so as the clear cut #1 option on the Tennessee Elite Eight team while Svi peaked as the #2 option and sometimes #3 option on Kansas. Knecht also wasn't just limited to being a spot up shooter but he was good at cutting, pull up shooting, mid-range and just more physical driving with force as evident with his nearly 6 free throw attempts vs Svi's 1.5 attempts per game and showed flashes of being a better rebounder. They had contrasting play-style demeanors as well with Svi tending to be a bit more passive while Knecht had a more aggressive drive and motor to him like LakersSoul mentioned.

I hope and pray you both are right about this guy because I remember a 6-8 guy who was the number scoring option in his final college year averaged 28 points, 43% from 3 and did great in the NCAA tourney. His name?…..
Adam Morrison


Knecht is more athletic but there's always some level of risk. We'll just have to wait and see but I'm fairly confident he'll produce. This Summer League should be exciting with Castleton, Bronny, JHS? and Knecht 4 to look out for :nod:
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Post#89 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:59 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:When had a rookie impacted this team? Not even Kobe as a rookie made much of an impact. You have to go back to Magic in 1979. A 1st pick.
In other words, this pick ain't our problem. And I'm not fkn concerned about a 2nd.round scrub selection.
WE GOT BIGGER FISH TO FRY! Like this roster of Bigs. Like our shooting. Like our defending of teams like Minnesota. Denver. Dallas. These are serious threats to even get out of the west. And then win it all.. THATS THE PRIZE! THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Ain't no 2nd round guard gonna make a difference in that. Not even a dent

it’s the offseason and fans want to celebrate every little possible things that this team have made.
They badly need at least a couple of players who can both shoot and defend and GMs know they are desperate and would ask for everything. And yes theu need a good big and a playmaker too. So many things need to get it right before they become legit contenders.
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Post#90 » by Landsberger » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:25 am

tamaraw08 wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Rearranging the chairs on the deck guys. "Leadership" of the team has been following LeBron's lead since he got here. He want's the limelight on him and his kid.... he'll jump to Vegas as a team owner and bring his kid along. Why the greatest franchise in the game has to play along with this crap is maddening.

Ownership gets more eyes... not because the product got better... because we're the halftime show.


news flash, Lakers are trash because they have the Narcissistic, selfish overrated Primadonna who is infecting this team with his deadly virus and this club will be so much better if he just leaves right now.


Yup... and does anyone actually think this mid second rounder isn't playing with his Dad? I hope he's good but a rookie coach... said narcissist and the narcissist's kid. What could go wrong.

I'd love to know the Vegas odds of him being released are even if he's not going to cut it.
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Post#91 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:40 am

1st game of the season, Line up =

C) AD
PF) Bron
SF) Vando
SG) Knecht - spelling?
PG) Bronny

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Post#92 » by tamaraw08 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:06 am

stan francisco wrote:This forces dad to lead by on-court example and commitment to team. One can’t BS one’s way (in this case most pressingly defensive discipline) with your own kids. They do what you do, not what you say. It’ll force LBJ to take a real honest look in the mirror. I think it will invigorate him.

Plus, nobody else at #55 would have made a difference anyway.


But according to the his haters here, this selfish mercenary is too dumb to recognize his hypocrisy :banghead:
That he will force the coach to play his son long minutes and would not care about losing many games.
The guy is worst human being and player on earth that they would rather see this team go back to Swaggy P's glorious 65 loss season.
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Post#93 » by stan francisco » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:05 am

tamaraw08 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:This forces dad to lead by on-court example and commitment to team. One can’t BS one’s way (in this case most pressingly defensive discipline) with your own kids. They do what you do, not what you say. It’ll force LBJ to take a real honest look in the mirror. I think it will invigorate him.

Plus, nobody else at #55 would have made a difference anyway.


But according to the his haters here, this selfish mercenary is too dumb to recognize his hypocrisy :banghead:
That he will force the coach to play his son long minutes and would not care about losing many games.
The guy is worst human being and player on earth that they would rather see this team go back to Swaggy P's glorious 65 loss season.


If you’re right about him lobbying for unwarranted minutes for junior, let’s just hope that JJ has the spine to go against it. Winning cures all.

JJ is not exactly PJ when it comes to dealing with superstars. Of course, nobody is(!), especially not in their rookie year. I’d say we need an assistant coaching staff with Rondo and someone else with a brass pair who can challenge LBJ if he does that. However, I think LeBron won’t. It’s a parenting thing…

Bronny has his work cut out for him. JHS and Reaves and Max will outplay him in a big way in practice.

If I were the coach, I’d send junior to the farm team on day one. He needs mileage playing against grownups.
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Re: Draft Discussion 

Post#94 » by Gant » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:02 pm

There's some decent points made in the article. This is an unprecedented situation. Rio Grande Valley or Delaware or Iowa would be less distracting places for a 55th pick to work on their game.

Column: Lakers’ decision to draft Bronny James is a costly move toward chaos
Late second-round draft picks are seldom seen and infrequently heard. But because of his proximity to his father, everything Bronny does will be videoed and everything he utters will go viral.

This would be one thing if he was a top draft pick and had the game to endure the scrutiny. But he was the fourth-from-the-last pick in the draft who will essentially still be in basketball school.

He just won’t be learning on the job. He will be learning on the fire.

Even if Bronny spends much of his time with the minor-league South Bay Lakers, the circus will follow him there. Having bravely overcome a frightening medical challenge, this young man deserves a chance to regain his footing on his own time, in his own space. Instead, he has now been stuck under the brightest of lights amid the most aggressive of timetables, obstacle upon obstacle, and how fair is that?


https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2024-06-27/lakers-decision-draft-bronny-james-chaos
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Post#95 » by LAKESHOW » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:11 pm

Just send straight GLeague. Problem solved.
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Re: Draft Discussion 

Post#96 » by LakersSoul » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:33 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:Just send straight GLeague. Problem solved.


Yeah, if your problem is not keeping LeBron happy.

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