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With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche

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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#221 » by will » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:12 pm

Is he the Cameroonian Nikola Jokic?

Don't flame me.

Jokic was a second round pick himself.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#222 » by Phezmo123 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:15 pm

will wrote:Is he the Cameroonian Nikola Jokic?

Don't flame me.

Jokic was a second round pick himself.

He has as high of upside as anyone in this draft

Slim chance, but if it does actualize, then he’s a superstar
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#223 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:28 pm

will wrote:Is he the Cameroonian Nikola Jokic?

Don't flame me.

Jokic was a second round pick himself.


the Cameroonian Bruno Caboclo.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Woj: Minnesota Trades 57 To Toronto 

Post#224 » by KrazyP » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:48 pm

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KrazyP wrote:They basically gave up NOTHING for the extra 2nd rounders and they will be stashed in the Gleague and will NOT be part of the active roster. I have no issues with this and nor should anybody else.

If they gave up real assets for Shead and Chomche and then planned to use them in the rotation along with Mogbo, Walter on top of already having a young, developing roster --- that would be a problem.

Your original post was about developmental environment and not cost of acquisition, but continue backtracking and shifting goalposts by all means.

There is virtually zero experiential difference between a guy on a 2-way vs. a late FRP given the same talent level. Both can play in the G-League, both can practice with the NBA squad, get access to the same training, staff, etc. If they're one of the 3 inactive players on any given night, there's zero chance of playing so their seating arrangements during an NBA game is the only difference and don't tell me that's the deciding factor for development.


I’m not shifting any goalposts. If you get picks for FREE, there’s nothing wrong with it.

Your original post here was stupid and unnessecesary. Next time I won’t bother to respond.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#225 » by will » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:49 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
will wrote:Is he the Cameroonian Nikola Jokic?

Don't flame me.

Jokic was a second round pick himself.


the Cameroonian Bruno Caboclo.

:lol: :lol:
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Re: Woj: Minnesota Trades 57 To Toronto 

Post#226 » by brownbobcat » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:57 pm

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KrazyP wrote:They basically gave up NOTHING for the extra 2nd rounders and they will be stashed in the Gleague and will NOT be part of the active roster. I have no issues with this and nor should anybody else.

If they gave up real assets for Shead and Chomche and then planned to use them in the rotation along with Mogbo, Walter on top of already having a young, developing roster --- that would be a problem.

Your original post was about developmental environment and not cost of acquisition, but continue backtracking and shifting goalposts by all means.

There is virtually zero experiential difference between a guy on a 2-way vs. a late FRP given the same talent level. Both can play in the G-League, both can practice with the NBA squad, get access to the same training, staff, etc. If they're one of the 3 inactive players on any given night, there's zero chance of playing so their seating arrangements during an NBA game is the only difference and don't tell me that's the deciding factor for development.


I’m not shifting any goalposts. If you get picks for FREE, there’s nothing wrong with it.

Your original post here was stupid and unnessecesary. Next time I won’t bother to respond.

In other words, you cannot actually rebut anything about your inane hypocritical post because you completely forgot you did a 180. The issue was never the cost.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#227 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:25 pm

will wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
will wrote:Is he the Cameroonian Nikola Jokic?

Don't flame me.

Jokic was a second round pick himself.


the Cameroonian Bruno Caboclo.

:lol: :lol:



okay but the guy looks like an elite athlete unlike Bruno, who was slow AF and lethargic.

Chomche looks like fish out of water when trying to do more than one thing on the court, like driving to the lane but like totally flopping a layup by throwing it up with a prayer (against a defender) he needs professional development to at least make it look respectable when he misses. :lol:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#228 » by Blazing_royale » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:07 am

Dudes a mystery box to me at this point. I'll be happy to get anything out of it lol
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#229 » by mtcan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:08 am

Blazing_royale wrote:Dudes a mystery box to me at this point. I'll be happy to get anything out of it lol


The 3 pointer looks decent. That wingspan though...man...he alters a lot of shots.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#230 » by Chandan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:10 am

why is he not drafted higher?
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#231 » by mihaic » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:16 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
will wrote:Is he the Cameroonian Nikola Jokic?

Don't flame me.

Jokic was a second round pick himself.


the Cameroonian Bruno Caboclo.


Clearly trolling, Caboclo was 1st rounder, Chomche won't be as good
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#232 » by ForeverTFC » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:16 am

Chandan wrote:why is he not drafted higher?


Extremely raw. He’s a high school kid and doesn’t fully understand the game yet. Also wouldn’t be surprised if he was steered towards us by Klutch (and for all we know, Masai steered him toward Klutcu to begin with).
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#233 » by mtcan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:18 am

Chandan wrote:why is he not drafted higher?

He is incredibly raw. He started basketball at age 11...has literally been playing for 7 years. NBA Africa Academy really isn't on the radar of scouts and executives...of course except Masai Ujiri. And at 17...most of these kids are looking at NCAA or Europe as the next step. How Ulrich got draft eligibility despite being only 18 years old...no idea.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#234 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:35 am

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Chandan wrote:why is he not drafted higher?

He is incredibly raw. He started basketball at age 11...has literally been playing for 7 years. NBA Africa Academy really isn't on the radar of scouts and executives...of course except Masai Ujiri. And at 17...most of these kids are looking at NCAA or Europe as the next step. How Ulrich got draft eligibility despite being only 18 years old...no idea.

You just have to be 19 or turning 19 in the same calender year as the draft. Chomche birthday is in December
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#235 » by Chandan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:52 am

if he's 17/18 that means he still has 1-2 inches to grow? the athletic profile is intriguing at least!
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#236 » by Bank Shot » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:56 am

Stroke looks smooth for a big.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#237 » by mtcan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:57 am


Some of the guys in NBA Africa including Ulrich were taught how to shoot by Kyle Korver...interesting.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#238 » by RoteSchroder » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:32 am

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gerrit4 wrote:
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I have major doubts that Chomche works out. Looking at his film, he’s seems really far away. He’s not even good at overall defense, just certain aspects defensively (e.g. rim protection).

There’s a really steep learning curve here and I’m not so sure he and the Raps have the patience to wait it out. Bruno’s probably finally ready for back-up C after 10 years for instance.

A draft and stash makes a lot more sense here imo.


Totally. I think it's a great pick-up at #57, as there's a very slight chance he turns into a really good player down the line. I don't think he's necessarily the guy, but if you draft one Ulrich Chomche type of player every season, eventually one of them is going to pop and really help the franchise.


I kind of think about him like an Amir Johnson. Similar to Amir, he was the youngest player in his class, but active, athletic and raw, but with hints of skill level, just in need of time to put it all together. He could put it together or he could not, but I do think this is a good flier if there ever was one. Would rather a dude like this than a dude like Dewan Hernandez. Much higher ceiling here, even if he's further away from it.


Well..it's #57, there's essentially no risk and Chomche has high level athleticism, so it's a perfectly fine pick, but I think the odds of someone so raw and lost on both ends has a really rough path to the NBA. I feel like even with only 7 years of b-ball, there needs to be a bit more awareness in terms of defensive rotations and fundamentals

With guys like Giannis and maybe even Amir, they seem to start off with multiple strengths and don't exactly have glaring weaknesses that are deal breakers.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#239 » by HangTime » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:21 am

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mtcan wrote:
Chandan wrote:why is he not drafted higher?

He is incredibly raw. He started basketball at age 11...has literally been playing for 7 years. NBA Africa Academy really isn't on the radar of scouts and executives...of course except Masai Ujiri. And at 17...most of these kids are looking at NCAA or Europe as the next step. How Ulrich got draft eligibility despite being only 18 years old...no idea.

You just have to be 19 or turning 19 in the same calender year as the draft. Chomche birthday is in December


It's interesting, if he was 2 days younger, he wouldn't have been eligible until 2025.

If Wemby was 5 days older, he would have eligible for 2022.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#240 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:12 am

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mtcan wrote:He is incredibly raw. He started basketball at age 11...has literally been playing for 7 years. NBA Africa Academy really isn't on the radar of scouts and executives...of course except Masai Ujiri. And at 17...most of these kids are looking at NCAA or Europe as the next step. How Ulrich got draft eligibility despite being only 18 years old...no idea.

You just have to be 19 or turning 19 in the same calender year as the draft. Chomche birthday is in December


It's interesting, if he was 2 days younger, he wouldn't have been eligible until 2025.

If Wemby was 5 days younger, he would have eligible for 2022.

Yeah pretty much lol
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