Potential Zach Trade Partners? 24/25 Edition

[Red8911]

The Kings who were rumored to have interest in Zach made a trade to open up more space.

Wonder if it’s related to Zach ? Could be or not. Kings have Fox, Monk, and just drafted Carter for the guard positions. Lost Mitchel and would trade away Huerter.

It’s possible or they just needed more flexibility to add from free agency.

Do you mean capspace? The Kings have no capspace. I think the Kings are out as a possible LaVine destination.

Yeah cap space. Now they have enough to trade for Zach.

[DuckIII]

The Kings who were rumored to have interest in Zach made a trade to open up more space.

Wonder if it’s related to Zach ? Could be or not. Kings have Fox, Monk, and just drafted Carter for the guard positions. Lost Mitchel and would trade away Huerter.

It’s possible or they just needed more flexibility to add from free agency.

Do you mean capspace? The Kings have no capspace. I think the Kings are out as a possible LaVine destination.

I saw the same article. It said with the Mitchell trade the Kings now have space to trade for Lavine.

Still, they just signed Monk and drafted Carter. I'm not sure they are a real market for us anymore.

[Muzbar]

The Kings who were rumored to have interest in Zach made a trade to open up more space.

Wonder if it’s related to Zach ? Could be or not. Kings have Fox, Monk, and just drafted Carter for the guard positions. Lost Mitchel and would trade away Huerter.

It’s possible or they just needed more flexibility to add from free agency.

Do you mean capspace? The Kings have no capspace. I think the Kings are out as a possible LaVine destination.

I saw the same article. It said with the Mitchell trade the Kings now have space to trade for Lavine.

Still, they just signed Monk and drafted Carter. I'm not sure they are a real market for us anymore.

Could you link that article, because the Kings definitely don't have capspace, they're still over the cap.

[dougthonus]

The Kings who were rumored to have interest in Zach made a trade to open up more space.

Wonder if it’s related to Zach ? Could be or not. Kings have Fox, Monk, and just drafted Carter for the guard positions. Lost Mitchel and would trade away Huerter.

It’s possible or they just needed more flexibility to add from free agency.

Do you mean capspace? The Kings have no capspace. I think the Kings are out as a possible LaVine destination.

Yeah cap space. Now they have enough to trade for Zach.

Minor correction, but for clarity's sake, it isn't cap space, it is room under the luxury tax. Cap space they could take him outright, now it would still need to be a salary matched trade.

[ChiTownHero1992]

Do you mean capspace? The Kings have no capspace. I think the Kings are out as a possible LaVine destination.

I saw the same article. It said with the Mitchell trade the Kings now have space to trade for Lavine.

Still, they just signed Monk and drafted Carter. I'm not sure they are a real market for us anymore.

Could you link that article, because the Kings definitely don't have capspace, they're still over the cap.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2024/06/27/kings-trade-open/

[hutasadorn]

Thoughts on this?

Bulls Receive:
CP3
Barnes
GS '26 2nd
SAC 27 1st

GS receives:
Kevin Huerter

SAC receives:
Lavine

Works in trade machine.

[poolshark52]

Thoughts on this?

Bulls Receive:
CP3
Barnes
GS '26 2nd
SAC 27 1st

GS receives:
Kevin Huerter

SAC receives:
Lavine

Works in trade machine.

Why not just cut out GS? I'd prefer Huerter than CP anyhow. Only lose out on a probably crappy GS 2nd.

[Rusty64]

New here. Go easy on me. What's the beef between Zach and the Bulls that the relationship is irrevocably broken? Is there any more than him getting benched by Billy in a game over 18 months ago?

[superdave]

Wilbon has been recently telling Chicago local media, with little filter, that Zach was all-but-traded to Detroit during the TDL but Zachy and Klutch caught wind of it and elected for surgery instead of going to Detroit. F U Zach

Fournier, Stewart and a FRP still works for Lavine even with his trade kicker. Lavine relegated to Detroit would be a funny thing to watch

[Muzbar]

I saw the same article. It said with the Mitchell trade the Kings now have space to trade for Lavine.

Still, they just signed Monk and drafted Carter. I'm not sure they are a real market for us anymore.

Could you link that article, because the Kings definitely don't have capspace, they're still over the cap.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2024/06/27/kings-trade-open/

Thanks.

So as I thought, they didn't gain any capspace. As Doug said, they moved themselves further from the tax line, the article also mentions that it seems unlikely they'd go after LaVine as they just resigned Monk and draft Carter.

I think the Kings are out as LaVine suitors, but who knows, they play Monk in a sixth man role so it could still be possible.

[DuckIII]

Do you mean capspace? The Kings have no capspace. I think the Kings are out as a possible LaVine destination.

I saw the same article. It said with the Mitchell trade the Kings now have space to trade for Lavine.

Still, they just signed Monk and drafted Carter. I'm not sure they are a real market for us anymore.

Could you link that article, because the Kings definitely don't have capspace, they're still over the cap.

It was on Facebook. I didn’t make note of the publication. But I have no reason to disagree with you. I just took it at face value.

[hutasadorn]

Thoughts on this?

Bulls Receive:
CP3
Barnes
GS '26 2nd
SAC 27 1st

GS receives:
Kevin Huerter

SAC receives:
Lavine

Works in trade machine.

Why not just cut out GS? I'd prefer Huerter than CP anyhow. Only lose out on a probably crappy GS 2nd.

Good call!

[dougthonus]

Wilbon has been recently telling Chicago local media, with little filter, that Zach was all-but-traded to Detroit during the TDL but Zachy and Klutch caught wind of it and elected for surgery instead of going to Detroit. F U Zach

Fournier, Stewart and a FRP still works for Lavine even with his trade kicker. Lavine relegated to Detroit would be a funny thing to watch

I've always called BS on this rumor based on this rationale.

One of these stories is more or less true and the other is wrong:

1: Zach LaVine was hurt, tried to come back, couldn't go, was out again, then went and got a surgery to repair the issue.

2: Zach faked an injury, then came back for no reason only to fake it again, then found a doctor to do an unnecessary surgery causing a 4+ month rehab so that he could avoid a trade to Detroit that could have also been avoided by simply sending his medicals to Detroit and saying "I don't want to be here, and if you trade for me, I'm going to get this surgery".

People do really dumb things all the time, but this is such a weird conspiracy theory. Best you can argue is he would have played through and put off surgery for the Lakers but not the Pistons, but so what? Most players won't put off a surgery for a team aiming to finish last.

[HomoSapien]

Wilbon has been recently telling Chicago local media, with little filter, that Zach was all-but-traded to Detroit during the TDL but Zachy and Klutch caught wind of it and elected for surgery instead of going to Detroit. F U Zach

Fournier, Stewart and a FRP still works for Lavine even with his trade kicker. Lavine relegated to Detroit would be a funny thing to watch

I've always called BS on this rumor based on this rationale.

One of these stories is more or less true and the other is wrong:

1: Zach LaVine was hurt, tried to come back, couldn't go, was out again, then went and got a surgery to repair the issue.

2: Zach faked an injury, then came back for no reason only to fake it again, then found a doctor to do an unnecessary surgery causing a 4+ month rehab so that he could avoid a trade to Detroit that could have also been avoided by simply sending his medicals to Detroit and saying "I don't want to be here, and if you trade for me, I'm going to get this surgery".

People do really dumb things all the time, but this is such a weird conspiracy theory. Best you can argue is he would have played through and put off surgery for the Lakers but not the Pistons, but so what? Most players won't put off a surgery for a team aiming to finish last.

There's an option 3. He would always need surgery, but could have possibly played through the injury and postponed the surgery for the off-season. I don't think he had an unnecessary surgery, but it wouldn't shock me if he moved it up to scare Detroit away. Pippen postponed his surgery out of spite for the organization, so it's not exactly an unheard-of move.

All that said, Detroit has a new regime now, so revisiting the trade with Fournier may not be an option.

[Guru]

Draft is over and re-signings are starting

Who are the teams still seeking a 2nd or 3rd option that believe they are competitive enough to go for Zach (And Vuc and DDR for that matter)

[WindyCityBorn]

Wilbon has been recently telling Chicago local media, with little filter, that Zach was all-but-traded to Detroit during the TDL but Zachy and Klutch caught wind of it and elected for surgery instead of going to Detroit. F U Zach

Fournier, Stewart and a FRP still works for Lavine even with his trade kicker. Lavine relegated to Detroit would be a funny thing to watch

Detroit got Tim Hardaway Jr. so you can cross them off for LaVine.

[burlydee]

New here. Go easy on me. What's the beef between Zach and the Bulls that the relationship is irrevocably broken? Is there any more than him getting benched by Billy in a game over 18 months ago?

Long history of losing. I don't think AK and Billy like Zach's game.

Zach wants to play for a winner and Chicago... is not.

I don't think its deeper than that.

[chitownsports4ever]

Wilbon has been recently telling Chicago local media, with little filter, that Zach was all-but-traded to Detroit during the TDL but Zachy and Klutch caught wind of it and elected for surgery instead of going to Detroit. F U Zach

Fournier, Stewart and a FRP still works for Lavine even with his trade kicker. Lavine relegated to Detroit would be a funny thing to watch

I've always called BS on this rumor based on this rationale.

One of these stories is more or less true and the other is wrong:

1: Zach LaVine was hurt, tried to come back, couldn't go, was out again, then went and got a surgery to repair the issue.

2: Zach faked an injury, then came back for no reason only to fake it again, then found a doctor to do an unnecessary surgery causing a 4+ month rehab so that he could avoid a trade to Detroit that could have also been avoided by simply sending his medicals to Detroit and saying "I don't want to be here, and if you trade for me, I'm going to get this surgery".

People do really dumb things all the time, but this is such a weird conspiracy theory. Best you can argue is he would have played through and put off surgery for the Lakers but not the Pistons, but so what? Most players won't put off a surgery for a team aiming to finish last.

But Doug the best argument is actually the one they were making right ? Zach would've put off surgery for LA but not for the Pistons so thats the reason he wasn't traded because we were trying to trade him to the Pistons so he elected to have the surgery and if most players would do that as you said then how is it a conspiracy theory ?

[HomoSapien]

Wilbon has been recently telling Chicago local media, with little filter, that Zach was all-but-traded to Detroit during the TDL but Zachy and Klutch caught wind of it and elected for surgery instead of going to Detroit. F U Zach

Fournier, Stewart and a FRP still works for Lavine even with his trade kicker. Lavine relegated to Detroit would be a funny thing to watch

I've always called BS on this rumor based on this rationale.

One of these stories is more or less true and the other is wrong:

1: Zach LaVine was hurt, tried to come back, couldn't go, was out again, then went and got a surgery to repair the issue.

2: Zach faked an injury, then came back for no reason only to fake it again, then found a doctor to do an unnecessary surgery causing a 4+ month rehab so that he could avoid a trade to Detroit that could have also been avoided by simply sending his medicals to Detroit and saying "I don't want to be here, and if you trade for me, I'm going to get this surgery".

People do really dumb things all the time, but this is such a weird conspiracy theory. Best you can argue is he would have played through and put off surgery for the Lakers but not the Pistons, but so what? Most players won't put off a surgery for a team aiming to finish last.

But Doug the best argument is actually the one they were making right ? Zach would've put off surgery for LA but not for the Pistons so thats the reason he wasn't traded because we were trying to trade him to the Pistons so he elected to have the surgery and if most players would do that as you said then how is it a conspiracy theory ?

Frankly, I would do that if it would save me from being sent to Detroit.

Aside from it not being a good market, Zach is already viewed as a career loser. Sending him to a dysfunctional and terrible Detroit team could cement that legacy. I totally get why he and reps would do what they could to steer him away from that situation.

[WindyCityBorn]

I've always called BS on this rumor based on this rationale.

One of these stories is more or less true and the other is wrong:

1: Zach LaVine was hurt, tried to come back, couldn't go, was out again, then went and got a surgery to repair the issue.

2: Zach faked an injury, then came back for no reason only to fake it again, then found a doctor to do an unnecessary surgery causing a 4+ month rehab so that he could avoid a trade to Detroit that could have also been avoided by simply sending his medicals to Detroit and saying "I don't want to be here, and if you trade for me, I'm going to get this surgery".

People do really dumb things all the time, but this is such a weird conspiracy theory. Best you can argue is he would have played through and put off surgery for the Lakers but not the Pistons, but so what? Most players won't put off a surgery for a team aiming to finish last.

But Doug the best argument is actually the one they were making right ? Zach would've put off surgery for LA but not for the Pistons so thats the reason he wasn't traded because we were trying to trade him to the Pistons so he elected to have the surgery and if most players would do that as you said then how is it a conspiracy theory ?

Frankly, I would do that if it would save me from being sent to Detroit.

Aside from it not being a good market, Zach is already viewed as a career loser. Sending him to a dysfunctional and terrible Detroit team could cement that legacy. I totally get why he and reps would do what they could to steer him away from that situation.

I hope he ends up on winner like Caruso did.