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Dejounte Murray Traded to New Orleans 

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Post#2 » by Geaux_Hawks » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:19 pm

Think we did pretty good here. Dyson Daniels is basically the kind of defender we want next to Trae. A potential lottery pick next year. Then a 2027 FRP at least. Nance is a cheap defender coming off the bench as a 4.
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Post#3 » by HMFFL » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:23 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:Think we did pretty good here. Dyson Daniels is basically the kind of defender we want next to Trae. A potential lottery pick next year. Then a 2027 FRP at least. Nance is a cheap defender coming off the bench as a 4.
I really like Larry Nance Jr but primarily for a playoff contender. He's expiring so if he doesn't have a future with us I want us to move him for something.

I like Dyson Daniels.

Rooting for the Lakers to lose comes naturally so I hope they fall apart next season.

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Re: Dejounte Murray Traded to New Orleans 

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Geaux_Hawks wrote:Think we did pretty good here. Dyson Daniels is basically the kind of defender we want next to Trae. A potential lottery pick next year. Then a 2027 FRP at least. Nance is a cheap defender coming off the bench as a 4.
I really like Larry Nance Jr but primarily for a playoff contender. He's expiring so if he doesn't have a future with us I want us to move him for something.

I like Dyson Daniels.

Rotting for the Lalers to lose comes naturally so I hope they fall apart next season.

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I'm not sure we'd get much in return on him, unless we're taking future money back since he's a good expiring.
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Post#5 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:19 am

Holy Cow!

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Post#6 » by jayu70 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:33 am

Atlanta Hawks grade: B+

The Hawks had to trade one of their guards after finding last season that Murray and Trae Young were far less effective together than on their own running a team.

I would have preferred to keep Murray, who signed a below-market extension last year that pays him less than the average point guard. (Immanuel Quickley, for example, agreed to a deal Friday that will pay him more than Murray over the next four seasons.)

At the same time, other teams also have access to Atlanta's cap sheet and may have valued Murray more than Young in the trade market for the same reasoning. If the Hawks were going to deal Murray, this is strong return, netting them two first-round picks, a recent lottery pick and getting them out of the luxury tax.
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Re: Dejounte Murray Traded to New Orleans 

Post#7 » by HMFFL » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:50 am

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Geaux_Hawks wrote:Think we did pretty good here. Dyson Daniels is basically the kind of defender we want next to Trae. A potential lottery pick next year. Then a 2027 FRP at least. Nance is a cheap defender coming off the bench as a 4.
I really like Larry Nance Jr but primarily for a playoff contender. He's expiring so if he doesn't have a future with us I want us to move him for something.

I like Dyson Daniels.

Rotting for the Lalers to lose comes naturally so I hope they fall apart next season.

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I'm not sure we'd get much in return on him, unless we're taking future money back since he's a good expiring.
I would try to take on Maxi from Dallas if they're willing to include enough compensation. Maxi makes $11m like Nance Jr does but Maxi is signed for two more seasons.

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Re: Dejounte Murray Traded to New Orleans 

Post#8 » by HMFFL » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:51 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Holy Cow!

I disappear for a few hours and miss the biggest news of the year for Atlanta!
I waited 15 minutes before creating a topic about it so you could...LOL I couldn't wait any longer.

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We got length, defense, depth.
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Post#12 » by jayu70 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:35 am

Appears Hawks have used the JC TPE to absorb Nance and Daniels, leaving approximately $6 million remaining on that TPE.
Additionally, they have created a new $18.2 million TPE from the DJ trade, now valid for 1 year.
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Post#13 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:44 am

Hawks finally move forward & reset around Trae Young — for now



Dejounte’s gone. Is Trae next?

Either way, the Atlanta Hawks have to feel a lot better today, because they finally ripped off the Band-Aid. One of Dejounte Murray or Trae Young had to go … at least. Today, the answer was Murray, whom the team sent to New Orleans for Dyson Daniels, Larry Nance Jr., E.J. Liddell and two first-round picks, league sources confirmed Friday.

Somehow, some way, it appears the Hawks have been able to salvage about 97 cents on the dollar from the reckless trade that brought Murray to Atlanta in the first place, one that thrust them into a crisis of being relentlessly mediocre yet unable to tank.

Atlanta just got back an unprotected Lakers pick in the 2025 draft that has a very strong chance of landing in the teens. The Hawks also received an unprotected pick in 2027, although it is the lesser of New Orleans’ or Milwaukee’s.

However, the other pearl is Daniels, a budding defensive specialist joining a team whose tragic inability to contain the ball resulted in the league’s 27th-ranked defense a season ago.

Daniels has two years left on a rookie deal that will pay him $6.1 million this year and $7.7 million next year. He struggles shooting and didn’t really fit in New Orleans because they had so many other suspect marksmen, but in Atlanta, he becomes a vital piece who may start to offset noted matador Young.

Even with no further moves, the Hawks have quickly remade themselves into a younger team. Daniels, top overall pick Zaccharie Risacher, 2023 first-rounder Kobe Bufkin and 2022 first-rounder Jalen Johnson – quietly among the league’s most improved players last season – now seem like core pieces.

Of course, I say all this as if the Hawks are done dealing. Are they?

...this is once again undeniably Trae Young’s team … for now. This time, at least, the pieces fit dramatically better.

Friday was the best day for the reconstituted front office under Landry Fields since its formation. By moving on from Murray, the Hawks have regained the flexibility to move forward in a number of directions with or without Young. (Don’t discount the fact they evaded the Stepien rule now, for instance, on trading their own first in 2026 or 2028.)

In doing so, they ended up with a roster that is younger, cheaper, more coherent and a better fit around their best player. We just don’t know how long that last part will still apply.
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Hawks finally move forward & reset around Trae Young — for now



Dejounte’s gone. Is Trae next?

Either way, the Atlanta Hawks have to feel a lot better today, because they finally ripped off the Band-Aid. One of Dejounte Murray or Trae Young had to go … at least. Today, the answer was Murray, whom the team sent to New Orleans for Dyson Daniels, Larry Nance Jr., E.J. Liddell and two first-round picks, league sources confirmed Friday.

Somehow, some way, it appears the Hawks have been able to salvage about 97 cents on the dollar from the reckless trade that brought Murray to Atlanta in the first place, one that thrust them into a crisis of being relentlessly mediocre yet unable to tank.

Atlanta just got back an unprotected Lakers pick in the 2025 draft that has a very strong chance of landing in the teens. The Hawks also received an unprotected pick in 2027, although it is the lesser of New Orleans’ or Milwaukee’s.

However, the other pearl is Daniels, a budding defensive specialist joining a team whose tragic inability to contain the ball resulted in the league’s 27th-ranked defense a season ago.

Daniels has two years left on a rookie deal that will pay him $6.1 million this year and $7.7 million next year. He struggles shooting and didn’t really fit in New Orleans because they had so many other suspect marksmen, but in Atlanta, he becomes a vital piece who may start to offset noted matador Young.

Even with no further moves, the Hawks have quickly remade themselves into a younger team. Daniels, top overall pick Zaccharie Risacher, 2023 first-rounder Kobe Bufkin and 2022 first-rounder Jalen Johnson – quietly among the league’s most improved players last season – now seem like core pieces.

Of course, I say all this as if the Hawks are done dealing. Are they?

...this is once again undeniably Trae Young’s team … for now. This time, at least, the pieces fit dramatically better.

Friday was the best day for the reconstituted front office under Landry Fields since its formation. By moving on from Murray, the Hawks have regained the flexibility to move forward in a number of directions with or without Young. (Don’t discount the fact they evaded the Stepien rule now, for instance, on trading their own first in 2026 or 2028.)

In doing so, they ended up with a roster that is younger, cheaper, more coherent and a better fit around their best player. We just don’t know how long that last part will still apply.
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I don't see how we can get a reasonable trade for Trae.
1. These supposed experts are saying his value is lower than DJ so why even do a trade
2. His supposed 3 teams were LAL, SAS, NOP

NOP is out with DJ going there (plus the owner is even cheaper than Tony)
SAS is about getting picks back and I don't see that as a haul we should be gettin in any Trae trade.
LAL, can't send him there or we'll devalue the pick we just got in the NOP trade.
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Post#17 » by epfou1 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:21 am

This trade is an L for the Hawks. Couldn’t get Herb Jones or Trey Murphy as part of the package.
Daniels will be good. Even the two first round picks are meh.
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Post#18 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:09 am

epfou1 wrote:This trade is an L for the Hawks. Couldn’t get Herb Jones or Trey Murphy as part of the package.
Daniels will be good. Even the two first round picks are meh.


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Post#19 » by atlantabbq99 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:09 am

Hawks have basically been stockpiling on SF/SG over the last decade and now with ZR, they are having a fire sale on SF/SG.

C: Cap
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Post#20 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:44 am

Good trade and necessary

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