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Mikal Bridges To The Knicks For 4 FRPs ('25, '27, '29, '31), FRP Swap ('28), SRP ('25), MIL FRP ('25); Picks Swap w/HOU

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Post#101 » by Netaman » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:23 pm

Minnamaker wrote:Having thought about this trade for a couple of days, I am still hyped it happened (together with the rockets trade). I understand chemistry and Bridges being on a great contract, but I can't believe we got 5 1st round picks for him. As a neutral fan, the Knicks are probably fun to watch, playing hard with solid defense, but in no way I see them getting over the hump with this trade. I might be wrong, but I think they are stuck in mediocracy with no way to improve (massive overpay for OG as well). The east is to weak for them not to be top 3 in the regular season. Thib's Teams have a history of playing hard every game and thus overachieving in the regular season. They were a second round exit this season, Bridges is just not enough.
For us, that means probably low first round picks until they realize and blow it up, which could take a while. The picks gonna look great in 4-5 years though.

The only downside to this is realizing, that even a role player who would habe probably gotten a massive overpay as franchise player wanted out. Other than that, I am super happy about the future of the Nets.

I think Marks still looks at a short rebuild, i wonder if it'll work this way. If I understand correctly, we have 3 first round picks next draft, Simmons is going to be off the books and about every free agent deal we made has the least amount of salary next season (for example Claxton and cam Johnson have their lowest salary year next season). We probably tank hard next season and are looking to draft heavy AND sign a big free agent next off-season. Even if that does not work, the future still looks great as we control our and most of the Knicks picks.


the knicks are interesting, they are really going to test the "is bridges a #2?" question. maybe he's 3 behind Randle in scoring, but i think he's their secondary ballhandler/best creator other than Brunson. As far as 1/2's go that's probably on the weaker side compared to recent finals teams with jokic/murray, luka/kyrie, tatum/brown, giannis/middleton/jrue, steph/klay etc.

in terms of matching up with the celtics, i agree i still dont quite see it. Is Brunson better than the Holiday/White combo? At his best yes but that is going to be a hard series for him getting guarded by both of those guys. Boston will match up just fine on the wings with Brown/Tatum vs OG/Bridges, so where is the Knicks advantage over them? Boston also has all their future picks except 29 (and an unlikely 28 swap with SAS). so whatever depth they lose like horford/KP they will be able to add.

Knicks should be a fun team but there is a lot on Brunson to not just be an MVP but maybe even improve over what he was last year against higher degree of difficulty teams, and with Thibs doing his usual thing probably playing his top guys heavy minutes. If they have a breakthrough it will be worth it but now lacking assets its not a no brainer they get over the hump. At best a coin flip, though it should be a fun 2-3 year run finding out.
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Post#102 » by Decipher » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:57 am

Apparently we’re getting another asset/player in the deal as Knicks miscalculated
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Post#103 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:46 am

The Thibs factor is real too. He runs guys into the ducking ground. He gets guys injured, often bad injuries too.

Like it’s an almost lock he’s going to get Brunson, or Bridges, Randle, or even “just” Hart or Big Ragu hurt one of the years we have their picks, will probably be in a few years as well when he’s racked up big miles on them for 3-4 seasons total plus playoffs.
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Post#104 » by Netaman » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:18 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:The Thibs factor is real too. He runs guys into the ducking ground. He gets guys injured, often bad injuries too.

Like it’s an almost lock he’s going to get Brunson, or Bridges, Randle, or even “just” Hart or Big Ragu hurt one of the years we have their picks, will probably be in a few years as well when he’s racked up big miles on them for 3-4 seasons total plus playoffs.


right, and it's kind of crazy but with how capped out the knicks are already pre-extensions for bridges/brunson, their next half decade is almost entirely on brunson's shoulders. if thibs runs him down even just to the point of some regression they are going to be in a tough spot.

obviously dont think that fact escaped marks. phoenix picks were similarly very much on booker's health/future, but they are seemingly so much closer to blowing things up it's possible/probably by 2029 they are in a whole new cycle. 2025 is looking non-lotto as long as they hold KD through deadline. so the 27&28 picks looked like the sweet spot for where they may be a rebuilding team post-KD, and who knows maybe post-Booker too.

knicks 29/31 could end up really good. brunson will be 32 in 2028, kyle lowry's decline started right around that age. bridges/og also 32. randle 34.

the more i read about the 2025 draft the more comfortable i am with marks' decision to essentially swap PHO27 for BKL25. it's possible he also gave up a good 29 pick, but obviously a lot less certainty.
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Post#105 » by Netaman » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:40 pm

Trade officially official - Nets add Shake Milton for 1 guaranteed year just above minimum (last 2 non-gtd) and Diakite who will probably be waived.

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Post#107 » by Luv those Knicks » Thu Jul 4, 2024 6:13 pm

Decipher wrote:Apparently we’re getting another asset/player in the deal as Knicks miscalculated


What I've read, the Knicks avoiding the first Apron was always part of the deal, so the Knicks were always going to include an extra salary. It was just a question of who.

Shake didn't play much for us, but as I recall, he wasn't terrible. A servicable bakup PG. I wonder if the preferred player in the swap was Burks but he chose Miami on a similar one-year guaranteed deal.
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Post#108 » by Paradise » Thu Jul 4, 2024 6:19 pm

Netaman wrote:Trade officially official - Nets add Shake Milton for 1 guaranteed year just above minimum (last 2 non-gtd) and Diakite who will probably be waived.

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Post#109 » by Phish Tank » Thu Jul 4, 2024 6:21 pm

y'all can flip Shake to a team that desperately needs to save some luxury tax money or something along those lines and can get a pick out of it.

Y'all will also cut Diakite and maybe flip Bojan to a desperate team for more picks at the deadline.
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Post#110 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Jul 4, 2024 6:48 pm

So glad all this Deuce talk is over.
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Post#111 » by Paradise » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:28 am

Phish Tank wrote:y'all can flip Shake to a team that desperately needs to save some luxury tax money or something along those lines and can get a pick out of it.

Y'all will also cut Diakite and maybe flip Bojan to a desperate team for more picks at the deadline.

We already have 5 picks heading into the Flagg sweepstakes. We will get more out of trading DFS or Cam Johnson. We also have Dariq Whitehead who is literally still a red shirt rookie who is a Malik Monk level scorer at 18.

Either way, the Nets are set up to dominate the next two draft classes and $100 million in cap space in with two TPE’s from Joe Harris and Patty Mills trades that combines to $17 million.
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Post#112 » by ecuhus1981 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:59 am

Right and exact, P.

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I wont root for the knicks or anything but ill always be a Bridges fan. He is a really good player who I think would have been perfectly fine in Brooklyn if the situation around him hadn't cratered.

I don't think there are too many hard to predict "what if's" with the KD era. If guys stayed healthy/sane they'd have probably won a ring in 2021 or 2022. One what if that bothers me is Ime. If they had followed through hiring him instead of JV, what the Nets have been the Rockets last year and looked like a team with a semblance of a core ready to build up? Would that have maybe appealed to Donovan Mitchell the same way Brooklyn appealed to Lillard before the roster collapsed?
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I wont root for the knicks or anything but ill always be a Bridges fan. He is a really good player who I think would have been perfectly fine in Brooklyn if the situation around him hadn't cratered.

I don't think there are too many hard to predict "what if's" with the KD era. If guys stayed healthy/sane they'd have probably won a ring in 2021 or 2022. One what if that bothers me is Ime. If they had followed through hiring him instead of JV, what the Nets have been the Rockets last year and looked like a team with a semblance of a core ready to build up? Would that have maybe appealed to Donovan Mitchell the same way Brooklyn appealed to Lillard before the roster collapsed?


History shows that virtually no one cares about that Ime stuff anymore

What’s more, his appointment would hardly have caused a ripple after a couple of weeks as the media would have found another story to peddle by then
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Post#117 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:17 pm

That Brunson extension is absolutely wild.
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Post#118 » by Netaman » Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:02 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:That Brunson extension is absolutely wild.


im pretty sure it's a win/win and his generosity is getting a little overstated. ultimately he will recoup most of the money and he just guaranteed himself DOUBLE his prior career earnings (he's made $60m in his career with $25m more coming this year for $85m).

I know everyone thinks it's obvious that nothing bad would have happened to him between now and next year, but that's obviously not always the case. That kid who just tore his achilles in summer league on a totally innocuous looking play is case in point. And if he does stay healthy, he can still make up the difference 2 years after that. If I were in his shoes I would have 100% taken the guaranteed $150m+. The fact that it also helps the team around him and some good PR is just icing on the cake.

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Post#119 » by Claud » Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:44 pm

I still can't process that we got superstart level return for Bridges.

In the end the fact that he was all buddy buddy with his nova friends played in our favor.

Bridges is good role player which will help them but the fact they burned a good chunk of their assets on a role player is so Knicks :lol:
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Post#120 » by Karate Diop » Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:17 am

Just what in the world have the Knicks done to Bridges' shot... Does their performance team not work with their players? This is abysmal...

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