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Re: Free Agency 

Post#961 » by MotownMadness » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:28 pm

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Kalamazoo317 wrote:I hate tanking.

I can understand going through changes and bottoming out for a top 7 pick for a few years.

The whole process trying to lose like crazy thing is damaging though
If we actually got a superstar we'd all be happy right now cause we'd be winning some games. Unfortunately all that tanking and all we got was a low end star and some decent prospects with huge questions marks by there name.

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Thats the new lottery system screwing us mostly

We set ourselves up about as well as you can all these years at the top of the draft
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#962 » by MortSahlfan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:42 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:I hate tanking.


Very hard to develop chemistry when guys were playing not to lose. Which is why we need some veterans, and some old guys who's presence can be enough.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#963 » by mattao313 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:44 pm

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mattao313 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:I can understand going through changes and bottoming out for a top 7 pick for a few years.

The whole process trying to lose like crazy thing is damaging though
If we actually got a superstar we'd all be happy right now cause we'd be winning some games. Unfortunately all that tanking and all we got was a low end star and some decent prospects with huge questions marks by there name.

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Thats the new lottery system screwing us mostly

We set ourselves up about as well as you can all these years at the top of the draft
Yeah plus the idiot gm never tried to get good players outside the draft that really hurt too.

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Re: Free Agency 

Post#964 » by TPA » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:56 pm

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Re: Free Agency 

Post#965 » by Kalamazoo317 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:35 pm

Almost like he's not that good
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#966 » by MotownMadness » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:43 pm

How much do you guys think Fontecchio gets?
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Post#967 » by Snakebites » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:53 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Almost like he's not that good

The multiple second rounders the Hawks gave up to get Bey was actually great value (I thought so at the time).

Trouble is we took back Wiseman instead. Should have just dealt with the Hawks.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#968 » by El Chivo » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:11 pm

MotownMadness wrote:How much do you guys think Fontecchio gets?


36x3?
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Post#969 » by MortSahlfan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:59 pm

MotownMadness wrote:How much do you guys think Fontecchio gets?


4/100
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#970 » by mattao313 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:04 pm

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MotownMadness wrote:How much do you guys think Fontecchio gets?


4/100
From who?

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Re: Free Agency 

Post#971 » by MortSahlfan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:13 pm

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MotownMadness wrote:How much do you guys think Fontecchio gets?


4/100
From who?

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Maybe Detroit, maybe someone else. But I think he'll get about 25/yr.
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Post#972 » by MortSahlfan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:13 pm

FA from other teams (who are left) I'd be interested in

Hartenstein, KCP, Beasley, Gary Trent Jr. (in that order)
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Post#973 » by vege » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:16 pm

MortSahlfan wrote:FA from other teams (who are left) I'd be interested in

Hartenstein, KCP, Beasley, Gary Trent Jr. (in that order)


Hartenstein, Melton, Marshall in that order for me. We're not getting Hartenstein and our FO is not smart enough to understand how good Melton is. We might get Marshall, which is great I guess.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#974 » by Neptune » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:17 pm

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MortSahlfan wrote:
4/100
From who?

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Maybe Detroit, maybe someone else. But I think he'll get about 25/yr.

25 mil per year for Tech is crazy
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#975 » by mattao313 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:21 pm

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mattao313 wrote:From who?

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Maybe Detroit, maybe someone else. But I think he'll get about 25/yr.

25 mil per year for Tech is crazy
Lmao exactly at most I think 4/60

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Re: Free Agency 

Post#976 » by theBigLip » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:30 pm

mattao313 wrote:
Neptune wrote:
MortSahlfan wrote:
Maybe Detroit, maybe someone else. But I think he'll get about 25/yr.

25 mil per year for Tech is crazy
Lmao exactly at most I think 4/60

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Isn’t the MLE at $15M? He’s certainly getting more than that. $20M per, for 3-4 years is my guess
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Post#977 » by 7r5ur » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:46 pm

mattao313 wrote:
Neptune wrote:
MortSahlfan wrote:
Maybe Detroit, maybe someone else. But I think he'll get about 25/yr.

25 mil per year for Tech is crazy
Lmao exactly at most I think 4/60

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Less than $12M/year would be a steal
13-15M/year would be a very good deal
16-20M/year would be OK/solid
21-25M/year would be overpay territory but still probably worth it toward the lower end of that.

That said, I think he's as good as Cam Johnson and he got $24M/year so I wouldn't be shocked.

Will be curious to see what Langdon thinks of him. That's all that matters I guess.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#978 » by Snakebites » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:50 pm

4/76 (18 per) is what I’ve seen guessed for Simone.
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Re: Free Agency 

Post#979 » by mattao313 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:50 pm

BDM22 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
Neptune wrote:25 mil per year for Tech is crazy
Lmao exactly at most I think 4/60

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Less than $12M/year would be a steal
13-15M/year would be a very good deal
16-20M/year would be OK/solid
21-25M/year would be overpay territory but still probably worth it toward the lower end of that.

That said, I think he's as good as Cam Johnson and he got $24M/year so I wouldn't be shocked.

Will be curious to see what Langdon thinks of him. That's all that matters I guess.
If he's getting 20mil I'm OK with letting him go imo he's a KCP level player

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Re: Free Agency 

Post#980 » by 7r5ur » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:52 pm

mattao313 wrote:
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mattao313 wrote:Lmao exactly at most I think 4/60

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Less than $12M/year would be a steal
13-15M/year would be a very good deal
16-20M/year would be OK/solid
21-25M/year would be overpay territory but still probably worth it toward the lower end of that.

That said, I think he's as good as Cam Johnson and he got $24M/year so I wouldn't be shocked.

Will be curious to see what Langdon thinks of him. That's all that matters I guess.
If he's getting 20mil I'm OK with letting him go imo he's a KCP level player

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Latest I've heard is teams think KCP will get $100M/4 years so that would be sub-KCP money in all likelihood.

Don't think we can really afford to let go of tradable assets. If a team wants him enough to sign that deal for us to match, someone will give us something for him at the trade deadline.

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