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Brock Aller's Importance 

Post#1 » by Zenzibar » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:44 am

One of the most significant hires has been Brock Aller.

We, me, couldn't have imqgined Aller's importance. We're literally in the Finals discussions and have all our pieces but one, Hartenstein.

Watching how Aller and Perrin work the draft for cap space and still get nice future and backup pieces was just amazing.

Here's a write up.


Knicks pull off a genius move to clear salary space


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Over the last few days, the New York Knicks have made a number of moves to reinforce their championship aspirations for the 2024–25 season. Acquiring Mikal Bridges from the Brooklyn Nets enhances defense and scoring production from the wing. However, offloading Bojan Bogdanovic to Brooklyn helps offset Bridges’ $23.3 million salary for the next season.

Financial Strategy Behind the Trade
The Knicks had to pay Bojan $2 million in guarantees, so they saved $17 million from moving him to Brooklyn. There’s about a $6 million differential for Bridges, which is minor in the context of NBA team salary caps. However, the Knicks are close to reaching the $178 million apron, currently sitting at $172 million in team salary, according to ESPN. They still have a number of moves to make to reinforce the roster but possess a few options up their sleeve.

The Knicks Are Still Making Moves
They could trade Mitchell Robinson, saving $14.3 million, and allocate that money to Isaiah Hartenstein, but that would still leave a vacancy at backup center.




Credit: Eric Canha-USA TODAY Sports
Fortunately, the Knicks managed a few genius financial moves to open up more salary space. They traded away one of their first-round picks to the Oklahoma City Thunder for five future second-rounders, highlighting the often minimal impact of draft picks in the NBA compared to acquiring a proven talent like Bridges, who comes with two years of control.

Building Financial Flexibility
I would expect the Knicks to add a few extra pieces to the Bridges deal, shedding a bit more salary space and opening up more financial flexibility. The Knicks need to clear enough space to be hard-capped at the second apron, which is $189.5 million.

Ian Begley of SNY reports that this would give them enough money to offer Hartenstein a deal starting at $16.2 million. They have Hartenstein’s Early Bird Rights, which provides a bit more leeway, but another team could quickly outbid them, potentially taking him out of their price range.


Does the Knicks’ recent blockbuster trade make them NBA Finals favorites?
Do the Knicks have a trade for Pelicans former All-Star locked up this week?
The Knicks have a way to clear $14.3 million in salary space for a Hartenstein extension
The Importance of Hartenstein
The problem is that Hartenstein has developed tremendous chemistry with the Knicks and is a reliable piece, not to mention an above-average playmaker at the center position. Robinson is a phenomenal defender but unreliable, especially during the playoffs when he consistently gets hurt.



Credit: Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports
Trading Robinson and adding a few pieces to the Bridges deal would open up enough salary space for the front office to potentially go beyond the four-year, $72 million deal they can offer Hartenstein. He’s expected to attract heavy interest in free agency, with OKC as a potential option, who have substantial salary space. Expect plenty of moves to be made over the next few days, but keeping Hartenstein would certainly round out a dominant starting five and a deep rotation that includes Josh Hart and Donte DiVincenzo.





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Re: Brock Aller's Importance 

Post#2 » by Adelheid » Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:10 am

he is the primary driver for all these crazy moves we see during offseason and deadline.
special mention, in case anyone forgets, we also have gersson rosas at the FO
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Post#3 » by Kidknick! » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:52 pm

The REAL MVP. He's the wizard behind the curtain. Ain't no cap on Front Office guys. He deserves the bag.
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Post#5 » by sol537 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:48 pm

His importance continues to increase with the new CBA… if we win a title, it will be in large part due to his genius and Leon’s vision to hire the right guys.
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Post#6 » by BKlutch » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:49 pm

We never dared use the word "genius" for anyone associated with our front office for decades. Dolan prevented anyone smart from working for us until he hired Leon
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Post#8 » by SelbyCobra » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:52 pm

Zenzibar wrote:One of the most significant hires has been Brock Aller.

We, me, couldn't have imqgined Aller's importance. We're literally in the Finals discussions and have all our pieces but one, Hartenstein.

Watching how Aller and Perrin work the draft for cap space and still get nice future and backup pieces was just amazing.


I think there's a bunch of posters here who always knew how impactful the Aller hire was, but the thing with our Knicks fandom over the decades has been that, even if you have a great piece, if the rest of the org around them isn't in proper order, that piece's genius is wasted. And this franchise had been ANCHORED by some "not in proper order" nonsense for what felt like forever - it didn't matter how good the pieces that were brought in were, they were never going to work.

Like you point out (Perrin), Aller's incredible work is recognized now because everyone else around him is also doing well, making an impact, and heading in a singular direction as an organization.

A guy like Aller only shines if those around him rely on his abilities, let him cook, and do their own jobs well. Aller makes scraps out of thin air as one of his abilities, but if you don't have people who know how to use scraps well, then you end up throwing them away because they're "just scraps". He can assess value and manage the cap like very few can - hell he might literally be the best in the world at it - but if you're asking him to manage the value and financials of subpar players, then you're not going to actualize his worth. For many Knicks fans, we're in unprecedented territory - there hasn't been organization-wide buy-in like this since the early/mid 90s. This is a special moment!
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Post#9 » by Ghetto Gospel » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:42 pm

not sure if we're out of the woods on this yet, but we need to pay the man if not

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Post#11 » by F N 11 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:13 pm

I forgot we got Walt Perrin. All these guys are important.
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Post#12 » by Capn'O » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:29 pm

Such a great hire. We needed a money manager forever. It didn't have to be Aller but he's good at it.
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Post#13 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:32 pm

I hope Brock is working some magic right now, this week.
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Post#14 » by Capn'O » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:47 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:One of the most significant hires has been Brock Aller.

We, me, couldn't have imqgined Aller's importance. We're literally in the Finals discussions and have all our pieces but one, Hartenstein.

Watching how Aller and Perrin work the draft for cap space and still get nice future and backup pieces was just amazing.


I think there's a bunch of posters here who always knew how impactful the Aller hire was, but the thing with our Knicks fandom over the decades has been that, even if you have a great piece, if the rest of the org around them isn't in proper order, that piece's genius is wasted. And this franchise had been ANCHORED by some "not in proper order" nonsense for what felt like forever - it didn't matter how good the pieces that were brought in were, they were never going to work.

Like you point out (Perrin), Aller's incredible work is recognized now because everyone else around him is also doing well, making an impact, and heading in a singular direction as an organization.

A guy like Aller only shines if those around him rely on his abilities, let him cook, and do their own jobs well. Aller makes scraps out of thin air as one of his abilities, but if you don't have people who know how to use scraps well, then you end up throwing them away because they're "just scraps". He can assess value and manage the cap like very few can - hell he might literally be the best in the world at it - but if you're asking him to manage the value and financials of subpar players, then you're not going to actualize his worth. For many Knicks fans, we're in unprecedented territory - there hasn't been organization-wide buy-in like this since the early/mid 90s. This is a special moment!


Checketts era was very good but this is our best front office that I remember. In the early 90s they were a little reactive in who they brought in, though Grunfeld had a little more vision. This group has been proactive in finding guys before they blow up. Also, Thibs seems sympatico with the FO group and Grunfeld/JVG had notorious blowups.

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Post#15 » by Context » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:18 pm

Capn'O wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:One of the most significant hires has been Brock Aller.

We, me, couldn't have imqgined Aller's importance. We're literally in the Finals discussions and have all our pieces but one, Hartenstein.

Watching how Aller and Perrin work the draft for cap space and still get nice future and backup pieces was just amazing.


I think there's a bunch of posters here who always knew how impactful the Aller hire was, but the thing with our Knicks fandom over the decades has been that, even if you have a great piece, if the rest of the org around them isn't in proper order, that piece's genius is wasted. And this franchise had been ANCHORED by some "not in proper order" nonsense for what felt like forever - it didn't matter how good the pieces that were brought in were, they were never going to work.

Like you point out (Perrin), Aller's incredible work is recognized now because everyone else around him is also doing well, making an impact, and heading in a singular direction as an organization.

A guy like Aller only shines if those around him rely on his abilities, let him cook, and do their own jobs well. Aller makes scraps out of thin air as one of his abilities, but if you don't have people who know how to use scraps well, then you end up throwing them away because they're "just scraps". He can assess value and manage the cap like very few can - hell he might literally be the best in the world at it - but if you're asking him to manage the value and financials of subpar players, then you're not going to actualize his worth. For many Knicks fans, we're in unprecedented territory - there hasn't been organization-wide buy-in like this since the early/mid 90s. This is a special moment!


Checketts era was very good but this is our best front office that I remember. In the early 90s they were a little reactive in who they brought in, though Grunfeld had a little more vision. This group has been proactive in finding guys before they blow up. Also, Thibs seems sympatico with the FO group and Grunfeld/JVG had notorious blowups.

It is a special time.

So Cap...This is my first offseason with this front office...When do you think we will see their solution to losing Ihart?
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Post#16 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:24 pm

Context wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
I think there's a bunch of posters here who always knew how impactful the Aller hire was, but the thing with our Knicks fandom over the decades has been that, even if you have a great piece, if the rest of the org around them isn't in proper order, that piece's genius is wasted. And this franchise had been ANCHORED by some "not in proper order" nonsense for what felt like forever - it didn't matter how good the pieces that were brought in were, they were never going to work.

Like you point out (Perrin), Aller's incredible work is recognized now because everyone else around him is also doing well, making an impact, and heading in a singular direction as an organization.

A guy like Aller only shines if those around him rely on his abilities, let him cook, and do their own jobs well. Aller makes scraps out of thin air as one of his abilities, but if you don't have people who know how to use scraps well, then you end up throwing them away because they're "just scraps". He can assess value and manage the cap like very few can - hell he might literally be the best in the world at it - but if you're asking him to manage the value and financials of subpar players, then you're not going to actualize his worth. For many Knicks fans, we're in unprecedented territory - there hasn't been organization-wide buy-in like this since the early/mid 90s. This is a special moment!


Checketts era was very good but this is our best front office that I remember. In the early 90s they were a little reactive in who they brought in, though Grunfeld had a little more vision. This group has been proactive in finding guys before they blow up. Also, Thibs seems sympatico with the FO group and Grunfeld/JVG had notorious blowups.

It is a special time.

So Cap...This is my first offseason with this front office...When do you think we will see their solution to losing Ihart?


I don't think it will take too long. If they have a plan in place, whatever it is will surface without warning or very little noise prior. They are most likely juggling the numbers around and working on the deals that make the most sense moving forward. I know it seems weird to hear but, I trust this FO.
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Post#17 » by Context » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:30 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Context wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Checketts era was very good but this is our best front office that I remember. In the early 90s they were a little reactive in who they brought in, though Grunfeld had a little more vision. This group has been proactive in finding guys before they blow up. Also, Thibs seems sympatico with the FO group and Grunfeld/JVG had notorious blowups.

It is a special time.

So Cap...This is my first offseason with this front office...When do you think we will see their solution to losing Ihart?


I don't think it will take too long. If they have a plan in place, whatever it is will surface without warning or very little noise prior. They are most likely juggling the numbers around and working on the deals that make the most sense moving forward. I know it seems weird to hear but, I trust this FO.

I dont think its weird. Everything thing that I know/discovered about this front office proves that they have many plans. I just was curious of their history of time and execution. Thanks for the response JB :D
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Context wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
I think there's a bunch of posters here who always knew how impactful the Aller hire was, but the thing with our Knicks fandom over the decades has been that, even if you have a great piece, if the rest of the org around them isn't in proper order, that piece's genius is wasted. And this franchise had been ANCHORED by some "not in proper order" nonsense for what felt like forever - it didn't matter how good the pieces that were brought in were, they were never going to work.

Like you point out (Perrin), Aller's incredible work is recognized now because everyone else around him is also doing well, making an impact, and heading in a singular direction as an organization.

A guy like Aller only shines if those around him rely on his abilities, let him cook, and do their own jobs well. Aller makes scraps out of thin air as one of his abilities, but if you don't have people who know how to use scraps well, then you end up throwing them away because they're "just scraps". He can assess value and manage the cap like very few can - hell he might literally be the best in the world at it - but if you're asking him to manage the value and financials of subpar players, then you're not going to actualize his worth. For many Knicks fans, we're in unprecedented territory - there hasn't been organization-wide buy-in like this since the early/mid 90s. This is a special moment!


Checketts era was very good but this is our best front office that I remember. In the early 90s they were a little reactive in who they brought in, though Grunfeld had a little more vision. This group has been proactive in finding guys before they blow up. Also, Thibs seems sympatico with the FO group and Grunfeld/JVG had notorious blowups.

It is a special time.

So Cap...This is my first offseason with this front office...When do you think we will see their solution to losing Ihart?


I don't know. Last offseason we went into the season without a backup PF or long wing and we had a glut of smaller 2s and 3s. I howled at the moon about it. Then we made the OG/Precious trade and I STFU. And then they made the Bojan trade which simultaneously cured the Evan issue (he wasn't playing and he was PO'd about it), gave us more forward depth, and gave us a contract to move this coming season. Then they flipped Bojan for Bridges.

If they have a lead they like now, they'll follow it, or there might be a deal that they have to work on and come back to. I do rest comfortably knowing this group knows what the problems are and have set up avenues to fix them. I do wonder if we'll be able to keep the whole Villanova connection to see our final form though.
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Context wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Context wrote:So Cap...This is my first offseason with this front office...When do you think we will see their solution to losing Ihart?


I don't think it will take too long. If they have a plan in place, whatever it is will surface without warning or very little noise prior. They are most likely juggling the numbers around and working on the deals that make the most sense moving forward. I know it seems weird to hear but, I trust this FO.

I dont think its weird. Everything thing that I know/discovered about this front office proves that they have many plans. I just was curious of their history of time and execution. Thanks for the response JB :D


They really kind of work in the shadows. Timing and execution have been out of nowhere and almost perfect. They struggled one summer when we got Evan and Kemba but most everything else has been a shockingly good move that no one saw coming.
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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
I don't think it will take too long. If they have a plan in place, whatever it is will surface without warning or very little noise prior. They are most likely juggling the numbers around and working on the deals that make the most sense moving forward. I know it seems weird to hear but, I trust this FO.

I dont think its weird. Everything thing that I know/discovered about this front office proves that they have many plans. I just was curious of their history of time and execution. Thanks for the response JB :D


They really kind of work in the shadows. Timing and execution have been out of nowhere and almost perfect. They struggled one summer when we got Evan and Kemba but most everything else has been a shockingly good move that no one saw coming.

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