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Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – Appreciation Thread (Waived July 24, 2025)

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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! 

Post#381 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:37 pm

I really value JD as a pass first PG. There are roughly 22 point guards in the NBA with an assist % above 30% and JD is one of them, and he’s barely even played. I hope we keep him.

List of PGs ranked by assist %, min value=30

2 Trae Young PG 25
3 Tyrese Haliburton PG 23
4 Luka Dončić PG 24
5 LaMelo Ball PG 22
6 Ja Morant PG 24
8 T.J. McConnell PG 31
10 Cade Cunningham PG 22
11 Tyus Jones PG 27
13 James Harden PG 34
15 Jalen Brunson PG 27
16 Chris Paul PG 38
17 Ben Simmons PG 26
19 JD Davison PG 21
22 Derrick Rose PG 35
23 Jamal Murray PG 26
24 Devin Booker PG 27
25 Fred VanVleet PG 29
26 Vasilije Micić PG 30
27 Jared Butler PG 23
28 Malcolm Brogdon PG 31
29 Tre Jones PG 24
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! 

Post#382 » by 31to6 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:50 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:There are no minutes for Davison in Boston. He should try to catch on with a rebuilding team, like the Nets, or head to Europe.


Feels like this coming season could be a fairly significant tanking season if several teams decide to “Lagg for Flagg” — JD might get some real opportunity in such a world. I personally like his game/potential and at this point hope they roster him, but if he ends up on the open market instead I’ll understand and trust Brad Stevens and his vision. Zoya gave his life for it!
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! 

Post#383 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:56 am

The problem with Davison is that he is a dribble first point guard, not a pass first point guard.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! 

Post#384 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:26 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:The problem with Davison is that he is a dribble first point guard, not a pass first point guard.

Don’t quite remember year 1, think then too, but wasn’t he one of the leaders in assists this season in the G? I think he led SL in assists. He’s been racking up the assists in the league he plays in, that’s all you can ask for.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! 

Post#385 » by Parliament10 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:36 am

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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Offer QO = UFA) 

Post#386 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:49 am

That stinks.

In the post draft presser, Brad said we were really trying to bring JD back “in some capacity” which we later parsed to mean a third year on a 2way. But JD led the G league in total points and assists last season and, I assume, felt he’d done everything at that level to get a chance somewhere at the NBA level.

I’m bummed because I was really excited at the possibility of Davison running a few fastbreaks with JT and JB on the wings and also, in the half court, using JT in off ball actions with a pass first PG who can get JT some assisted buckets, a deficient area last season. But over the entirety of last season, JD Davison played literally zero minutes with JT so obviously the coaches didn’t share my excitement at the possibilities.

Lastly, JD just may not be a great fit personality wise (not to speculate) but he was suspended last year for breaking team rules in Maine and maybe the dude has some growing up to do, I dunno. But I enjoyed watching him play and I completely wish him the best. I think he’s an NBA player, so to spend two yrs developing him and not at least get a chance to trade him for a second or something, it’s disappointing. But, oh well
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#387 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:20 am

Europe beckons, but he may not be good enough for Euroleague.
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Post#388 » by Gant » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:21 am

I've read the opinion that since he's already had two years in Maine, the only qualifying offer the Celtics could tender to Davison is a standard contract. That's why he didn't get the QO. IF this is accurate then Davison is not necessarily gone; it's just more temporarily confusing contract stuff. In short, the Celtics may still want him back for one more year on a 2 way.
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Post#389 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:22 am

so curmudgeonly a take, lol
Curmudgeon wrote:Europe beckons, but he may not be good enough for Euroleague.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#390 » by darrendaye » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:50 am

Gant wrote:I've read the opinion that since he's already had two years in Maine, the only qualifying offer the Celtics could tender to Davison is a standard contract. That why he didn't get the QO. IF this is accurate then Davison is not necessarily gone; it's just more temporarily confusing contract stuff. In short, the Celtics may still want him back for one more year on a 2 way.


Selfishly I'd love to have him back on a 2-way. Think his opening on the big club would be 2025-26 if Scheierman shows enough Pritchard-esque deep threat prowess to make him expendable and could elevate JD as a 3rd PG at that point.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#391 » by 31to6 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:00 am

Not sure who represents JD but this could be BOS doing him a favor.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#392 » by darrendaye » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:10 am

31to6 wrote:Not sure who represents JD but this could be BOS doing him a favor.


If Gant is accurate in his assertion, this was the only way this could go. Could still sign 2-way. On the other hand, if the team REALLY wants to cater to Peterson's development, not bringing JD back gets him more floor general plays.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! 

Post#393 » by Hal14 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:00 am

redslastlaugh wrote:I really value JD as a pass first PG. There are roughly 22 point guards in the NBA with an assist % above 30% and JD is one of them, and he’s barely even played. I hope we keep him.

List of PGs ranked by assist %, min value=30

2 Trae Young PG 25
3 Tyrese Haliburton PG 23
4 Luka Dončić PG 24
5 LaMelo Ball PG 22
6 Ja Morant PG 24
8 T.J. McConnell PG 31
10 Cade Cunningham PG 22
11 Tyus Jones PG 27
13 James Harden PG 34
15 Jalen Brunson PG 27
16 Chris Paul PG 38
17 Ben Simmons PG 26
19 JD Davison PG 21
22 Derrick Rose PG 35
23 Jamal Murray PG 26
24 Devin Booker PG 27
25 Fred VanVleet PG 29
26 Vasilije Micić PG 30
27 Jared Butler PG 23
28 Malcolm Brogdon PG 31
29 Tre Jones PG 24

C'mon now. This is totally disingenuous,. JD Has only played in garbage time. His stats are meaningless.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#394 » by Hal14 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:02 am

darrendaye wrote:
31to6 wrote:Not sure who represents JD but this could be BOS doing him a favor.


If Gant is accurate in his assertion, this was the only way this could go. Could still sign 2-way. On the other hand, if the team REALLY wants to cater to Peterson's development, not bringing JD back gets him more floor general plays.

Peterson is not a floor general. He's a wing.

They're both long shots to ever contribute something meaningful at the NBA level.
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Post#395 » by Hal14 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:04 am

redslastlaugh wrote:so curmudgeonly a take, lol
Curmudgeon wrote:Europe beckons, but he may not be good enough for Euroleague.

He's actually right. You have to be *really* good to play EuroLeague. There's not many guys age 21 or under who get consistent EuroLeague mins.

It's pretty legit stuff.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#396 » by Parliament10 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:12 am

Hal14 wrote:
darrendaye wrote:
31to6 wrote:Not sure who represents JD but this could be BOS doing him a favor.


If Gant is accurate in his assertion, this was the only way this could go. Could still sign 2-way. On the other hand, if the team REALLY wants to cater to Peterson's development, not bringing JD back gets him more floor general plays.

Peterson is not a floor general. He's a wing.

They're both long shots to ever contribute something meaningful at the NBA level.

True. But, Peterson was bringing the ball up, when JD Davison and DJ Steward were both Injured.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#397 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:16 am

Maybe Cs are trying to convert Drew into a PG.
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Post#398 » by Dogen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:28 am

Looks like time for a new Avatar. Maybe I should go back to the OG, Tony Allen. At least he stuck around for a few years.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#399 » by cl2117 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:21 pm

Hal14 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:so curmudgeonly a take, lol
Curmudgeon wrote:Europe beckons, but he may not be good enough for Euroleague.

He's actually right. You have to be *really* good to play EuroLeague. There's not many guys age 21 or under who get consistent EuroLeague mins.

It's pretty legit stuff.

JD is definitely good enough to be on a Euroleague roster. Depends on the team in terms of him getting consistent minutes, but he certainly can get himself a contract and play. Teenagers play in the Euroleage (really good ones in fairness) as do guys who are over the hill (again really good ones relatively speaking).

It is absolutely a really high standard. JD's style might not translate that well. It's slower, there's less transition buckets, it's more physical play. You're not going to be able to score in the paint the same way you can in the US, which is why craft guys like Shane Larkin and Mike James who thrive in the pick and roll are studs over there despite not being rotation players in the NBA. So to your point, JD might not be able to go over there and all of a sudden be a starter, but I think he's got the talent to play in that league.

Going to Euroleague games are a blast though. Atmosphere is really different than NBA games. It's not as high flying as the NBA, but it's still a lot of fun.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, JD Davison! – (Celtics Do Not Tender QO = UFA) 

Post#400 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:55 pm

31to6 wrote:Not sure who represents JD but this could be BOS doing him a favor.


JD is a free agent. He can look around for an nba deal, or, he can go back to Boston in a 2 way.

If you think about it. He would be a college senior right now.

I think he is an nba talent. They just have a roster crunch and will sign him next year if need be.

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