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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1401 » by 165bows » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:36 pm

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This is BS. Why didn't they do the same thing with Hauser? They are going to lose Queta because he'll get a decent offer elsewhere.



We will see what happens but im guessing there is more risk of Sam getting a big contract on the open market than Queta. You can take more risk with Queta because Sam is part of the top 8 and less replaceable

Seems pre-arranged imo. If they really didn’t want to lose him just make him an RFA.

Just make the agreement and then go through the necessary steps.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1402 » by Triple M » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:39 pm

165bows wrote:
Triple M wrote:
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This is BS. Why didn't they do the same thing with Hauser? They are going to lose Queta because he'll get a decent offer elsewhere.



We will see what happens but im guessing there is more risk of Sam getting a big contract on the open market than Queta. You can take more risk with Queta because Sam is part of the top 8 and less replaceable

Seems pre-arranged imo. If they really didn’t want to lose him just make him an RFA.

Just make the agreement and then go through the necessary steps.


Yea i trust they will keep the talent in house. I think they will increase the salary over the short term before the repeater tax get out of control.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1403 » by Gant » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:09 am

Apparently the Ware selection has pushed Bryant out of Miami

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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1404 » by keevsnick1 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:41 am

With Queta declined and Scheierman drafted the C's now have four available roster spots. They could still bring back any of Queta, Kornet, Tillman Brisset or Svi. I imagine they'll use at least two of those spots on Centers given the KP injury, they'll likely be scouring the market seeing what the minimum and what promises to be a decent amount of playing time good get them.

Some targets (besides their own free agents):
-Mo Bamba
-Daniel Theis
-Andre Drummond
-Goga Bitadze
-Mason Plumee

Bamba would be interesting, has some floor spacing which we know Brad/Joe love.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1405 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:15 am

165bows wrote:
Triple M wrote:
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This is BS. Why didn't they do the same thing with Hauser? They are going to lose Queta because he'll get a decent offer elsewhere.



We will see what happens but im guessing there is more risk of Sam getting a big contract on the open market than Queta. You can take more risk with Queta because Sam is part of the top 8 and less replaceable

Seems pre-arranged imo. If they really didn’t want to lose him just make him an RFA.

Just make the agreement and then go through the necessary steps.

He IS RFA. They declined team option but still tendered him a QO.

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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1406 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:19 am

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We will see what happens but im guessing there is more risk of Sam getting a big contract on the open market than Queta. You can take more risk with Queta because Sam is part of the top 8 and less replaceable

Seems pre-arranged imo. If they really didn’t want to lose him just make him an RFA.

Just make the agreement and then go through the necessary steps.

He IS RFA. They declined team option but still tendered him a QO.

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That makes more sense now.
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Post#1407 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:23 am

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165bows wrote:Seems pre-arranged imo. If they really didn’t want to lose him just make him an RFA.

Just make the agreement and then go through the necessary steps.

He IS RFA. They declined team option but still tendered him a QO.

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That makes more sense now.

Exercising option would've made him UFA next season. And unlike Hauser, Queta was not eligible to be extended.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1408 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:28 am

Why not eligible to be extended? Couldn't they offer 120%?
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1409 » by snowman » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:30 am

I have a feeling that Queta was fine with the contract Brad was putting on the table, and that's why they declined him, but offered the qualifying offer, to sign him when they are allowed too. I also think Hauser wanted more than Brad was talking about and Brad was concerned he would lose him, so they picked up his option to keep him from being able to talk to other teams.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1410 » by 165bows » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:32 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Why not eligible to be extended? Couldn't they offer 120%?

He wasn’t eligible - have to be on the third year of a deal for an extension.

Basically I’d expect they put him on a longer term low cost deal like Hauser is finishing this year.
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Post#1411 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:54 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Why not eligible to be extended? Couldn't they offer 120%?

He was not on a standard rookie contract 1st rounders get so no rookie extension.
He was just signed last season/this April (?). Teams can only start offering veteran extensions on 2nd anniversary of signing a 3-yr/4-yr contract. He wasn't even on a 3-yr contract since the max Cs could legally offer last April was a 2-yr deal.

The 120% of minimum would apply to a new most likely longer contract (via non-Bird rights), which couldn't be executed if they exercised the team option.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1412 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:56 am

So far Brad making the right moves.

A little surprised Drew Peterson got a Qualifying Offer.
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Post#1413 » by keevsnick1 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:26 am

Fierce1 wrote:So far Brad making the right moves.

A little surprised Drew Peterson got a Qualifying Offer.


A two-way guy being issued a qualifying offer doesn't really mean much. A QO can be pulled at any time, and since a QO is based on the terms of a player's prior contract a two-way QO is basically just another two-way.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1414 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:28 am

keevsnick1 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:So far Brad making the right moves.

A little surprised Drew Peterson got a Qualifying Offer.


A two-way guy being issued a qualifying offer doesn't really mean much. A QO can be pulled at any time, and since a QO is based on the terms of a player's prior contract a two-way QO is basically just another two-way.

Yeah, just intrigued that Drew got the QO and JD didn't.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1415 » by Hal14 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:50 am

Fierce1 wrote:
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Fierce1 wrote:So far Brad making the right moves.

A little surprised Drew Peterson got a Qualifying Offer.


A two-way guy being issued a qualifying offer doesn't really mean much. A QO can be pulled at any time, and since a QO is based on the terms of a player's prior contract a two-way QO is basically just another two-way.

Yeah, just intrigued that Drew got the QO and JD didn't.

We'e had JD for 2 yrs. Time to move on.

We've only had Drew for half a season..perhaps we can develop him and see what he can do. Especially since he's 6'9" and can shoot. JD is 6'3" and cant' shoot..or defend and turns the ball over. He should have stayed in school. Could have maybe been a top 20 pick if he kept working on his game in college..
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1416 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:57 am

Hal14 wrote:
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A two-way guy being issued a qualifying offer doesn't really mean much. A QO can be pulled at any time, and since a QO is based on the terms of a player's prior contract a two-way QO is basically just another two-way.

Yeah, just intrigued that Drew got the QO and JD didn't.

We'e had JD for 2 yrs. Time to move on.

We've only had Drew for half a season..perhaps we can develop him and see what he can do. Especially since he's 6'9" and can shoot. JD is 6'3" and cant' shoot..or defend and turns the ball over. He should have stayed in school. Could have maybe been a top 20 pick if he kept working on his game in college..

Didn't know Drew is 6-9.

I really thought he's just one of those 6-5 guys.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1417 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:22 am

Memphis has a roster crunch and may need to trade Derrick Rose into space and waived or just waived outright. If Derrick Rose comes onto the FA market would he be interested in signing on as a 3rd/4th PG as a ring chaser? Keep an eye on him, he might hit the FA market
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Post#1418 » by flintsky21 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:11 am

You know your team's good when the biggest offseason talking point is who should be your third string center.
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Post#1419 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:26 am

flintsky21 wrote:You know your team's good when the biggest offseason talking point is who should be your third string center.

So true.
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Post#1420 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:58 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Memphis has a roster crunch and may need to trade Derrick Rose into space and waived or just waived outright. If Derrick Rose comes onto the FA market would he be interested in signing on as a 3rd/4th PG as a ring chaser? Keep an eye on him, he might hit the FA market

Q: Do you have an understanding as to the word consent?

Rose: No but can you tell me?

Q: I just wanted to know if you had any understanding.

Rose: No.

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Q: So they just said, ‘Hey, it’s the middle of the night. Let’s go over to plaintiff’s house’ and they never gave you a reason why they wanted to go over there?’

Rose: No, but we men. You can assume.

Q: I’m sorry?

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