Free Agency

[bstein14]

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They're probably going have to offer the 1st unprotected to get anyone to bite. I bet they're only offering a protected 1st.

It would have to be an offer that the media comes out and is shocked by the package. Multiple firsts (at least one unprotected) for some expiring contracts and a low level prospect.

Or Washington does some Poole for Lavine type deal.

Chicago is one of the few teams worse off than us for sure. Same goes to Washington. Both have bad contracts on their books and neither have much for talented youth on their rosters. Chicago waited to long to cash in on Vuc, DeMar, Caruso, etc...

Much how like Weaver was stupid and traded away all of our 2nd rounds (Picks in the 31-33 range most years) Chicago has also stupidly traded away their next 3 2nd rounders as well. Just very asset negative and they didn't get future picks for Caruso either just a possible mid tier soon to be a FA in 12 months anyways in Giddey.

I'd also rather have stew at 4/$60 than Williams at 5/$90.

[Snakebites]

What would it take for us to be okay with taking him on?

The trade kicker makes him almost immovable.

[MotownMadness]

What would it take for us to be okay with taking him on?

The trade kicker makes him almost immovable.

IDk

You're asking the team to be unbearable to watch for the next 3 years led by Lavine. It would take a couple 1st and a strong stomach.

[kpt]

At least Matas and 2025 FRP unprotected

[Snakebites]

At least Matas and 2025 FRP unprotected

I feel like they owe picks. Are they paid up on the Vuc trade?

[bstein14]

What would it take for us to be okay with taking him on?

The trade kicker makes him almost immovable.

So if we could land a decent first from another team for taking on a player, and then at the deadline we trade that player and THjr to Chicago for LaVine and the Portland pick and an unprotected 1st round pick swap option in 2028. That would give us some upside that would make it worth considering. I don't think it makes any sense for us to just absorb him into our cap space for just the Portland pick even with the 2028 unprotected pick swap.

[MotownMadness]

About what im expecting Font to get

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[Snakebites]

Figured they’d move to keep Toppin.

[NYPiston]

This place about to be mayhem in a few hours. So much reading to do on here lol

I think it's going to be a quiet day. I think Langdon wants to sin-eat more contracts and we don't usually see those trades on free agency day. I hope they re-sign Fontecchio, that's probably the most important order of business in the interim.

[Canadafan]

This place about to be mayhem in a few hours. So much reading to do on here lol

I think it's going to be a quiet day. I think Langdon wants to sin-eat more contracts and we don't usually see those trades on free agency day. I hope they re-sign Fontecchio, that's probably the most important order of business in the interim.

I'd think an announcement of a deal with him will come quick. And he won't officially sign that till all other business has been took care of.
Hope you're wrong on the day being a quiet one.
So far we got some excitement to talk about with new coach hire

[Snakebites]

This place about to be mayhem in a few hours. So much reading to do on here lol

I think it's going to be a quiet day. I think Langdon wants to sin-eat more contracts and we don't usually see those trades on free agency day. I hope they re-sign Fontecchio, that's probably the most important order of business in the interim.

I think it’s going to be mayhem on these boards after we don’t sign anybody.

[uncleoswald]

Likelihood of the Pacers bringing back Jalen Smith goes down a little, I think.

[NYPiston]

I think it’s going to be mayhem on these boards after we don’t sign anybody.

I should amend what I said. I don't think the Pistons will sign nobody but I don't see them signing a "bigger" name and I put bigger in quotation marks because there are no big names available but just in a relative sense in this weak FA market.
Furthermore, big free agent deals rarely work out anyway so I'd prefer that they don't got that route. Tobias might be that guy unfortunately and I don't think it's the right move but do we consider that "exciting"?

[MortSahlfan]

There is a minimum cap, and I think we need to spend 44 more million.

[tradez401]

Likelihood of the Pacers bringing back Jalen Smith goes down a little, I think.

i'd love to have jalen smith on this team.

[Canadafan]

There is a minimum cap, and I think we need to spend 44 more million.

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Correct
Lavine and Tobias incoming jkjk

[chrbal]

Resign Simone Fontecchio, say 3 years. Surprise the league and get Tyus Jones. Pair of young vets, I think both are like 28-29 years old.

Do one more take on salary to get assets deal. I keep trying to make it PJ Tucker*, but I can’t get one to make sense for the Clippers and Pistons.

*I think he’d be ok for the Pistons, but it would be more to snag some assets and the fact that’s he’s an expiring contract at like $11 or 12 million

[bstein14]

Toppin got exactly what I thought we should consider giving him, the same Stew got.... thought it might be better for us to go after Toppin and have him and Stew essentially split time at PF 24 minutes per game each... rather than give Tobias like $60+ million over 3 years to be here. Toppin a great athlete, better three point shooter and still younger with upside.

Part of me thought since they gave Siakam that huge bag to play PF they might not want such an expensive back PF but I guess they decided he was worth spending the $$$ on to keep.

[bstein14]

What would we be happy with for Tyus Jones? Originally I was thinking 4 years $80 million but I think we might need to come up on that number a bit to secure him.

[theBigLip]

What would it take for us to be okay with taking him on?

The trade kicker makes him almost immovable.

So if we could land a decent first from another team for taking on a player, and then at the deadline we trade that player and THjr to Chicago for LaVine and the Portland pick and an unprotected 1st round pick swap option in 2028. That would give us some upside that would make it worth considering. I don't think it makes any sense for us to just absorb him into our cap space for just the Portland pick even with the 2028 unprotected pick swap.

Chicago’s FRP:
2025 first round draft pick to San Antonio
Chicago's 1st round pick to San Antonio protected for selections 1-10 in 2025, 1-8 in 2026 and 1-8 in 2027; if Chicago has not conveyed a 1st round pick to San Antonio by 2027, then Chicago will instead convey its 2028 2nd round pick to San Antonio [Chicago-San Antonio, 8/11/2021]

So it would be a future first. Not so interesting.