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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#941 » by BeiBeau » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:20 pm

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Mr B wrote:There are teams that could use Maxi. The Knicks, Thunder, and Lakers could all use a big like Maxi off their bench.


Maxi would get 15 minutes a night at least on well over half the playoff teams in the league.

The people on this board have 0 understanding of player values and let their personal feelings get in the way.


Than it really should't be that hard to trade him


They have no desire to do so. He is a on court positive and they don’t have a replacement. He doesn’t have asset value, he only has on court value so that’s not that type of player gets move willy-nilly.

Not to mention that Dallas would like to keep him right now for next offseason. What are the odds that the Mavs win the championship next season? 1/6th? So when they don’t how do they move money or match salary next year? Maxi’s 11M expiring will be a good piece to have. It’s the same reason OKC took on the Bertans contract last offseason, you need matching salary to make trades in the future.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#942 » by Archx » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:20 pm

Some people around here won't be happy... :D

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Post#943 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:30 pm

Archx wrote:Some people around here won't be happy... :D

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Meh, don't care...Grant is a good player, he's Got Nice stats,I'm Just not sure about his desire for winning...he left Denver and went to a losing team...he was happy Just getting payed.... doesn't seem like winning is his priority...he gives me the C-Wood mentality,although he's a lot better player
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Post#944 » by joesha1698 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:41 pm

Spencer Dinwiddie on Lakers and Mavs radar. I would welcome Spencer back, would you? I think veterans who can break down a defense are very much needed.
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Post#945 » by HMFFL » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:42 pm

Archx wrote:Some people around here won't be happy... :D

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They can have him since he struggles to work 50 days a season.

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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#946 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:44 pm

Looks like it's gonna be an interesting night....a lot of movement could happen...some teams Will be better,some Will get worse
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Post#947 » by Mavrelous » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:54 pm

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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#948 » by Mr B » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:07 pm

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I don't want 30 million dollar players that are over 30 yrs old .I want young up and coming players that are Luka's age . It seems like everyone has already forgotten the Mavs just came from the NBA Finals after making 2 big moves at the trade deadline in acquiring two 25 yr old players.
All these high dollar players want the ball and Luka isn't giving it up.

Center is already the Mavs 3rd best Player in Gafford and Lively
PJ ,DJJ (likely resigned),OMax( moving into the rotation) , adding UFA 24 y o Jalen Smith 6'9" (59/42/69) shooting as the forwards

Luka/Kyrie /Dante/ Josh Green (Grimes) as the guard rotation

Leaving Jaden Hardy (maybe Green) as the sweetener in any trades to move Maxi/Powell for 6'9",28 y o Kyle Kuzma ?????


But like everyone else ,Im bracing for Green going to Golden State for Klay Thompson ,who turns 35 y o before the next playoffs ......... This feels like 1ft forward (25 y o in PJ and Gaff) to 2 step backwards with Klay closing in on 35 y o.
Why are the Mavs always looking for players NOT in Luka's timeline as a player ?

Because the Championship window is open now not 5 years from now. They have about a 2-3 year window considering Kyrie and Klay’s age and contracts (if they obtain Klay).
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#949 » by Mavrelous » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:42 pm

Lakers aren't signing anyone, it was all mirrors and smoke...
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Post#950 » by tleikheen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:00 pm

Because the Championship window is open now not 5 years from now. They have about a 2-3 year window considering Kyrie and Klay’s age and contracts (if they obtain Klay).


I watched the Dallas Mavs in the NBA Finals THIS YEAR..... the window is open every yr Luka is healthy and there has been much debate that if Luka was in peak condition the Mavs COULD have won.
Getting players who are older ,high dollared and more prone to injury doesn't get the Mavs closer than where they got this year without them. High dollared players doesn't equal Championship ,I'd argue a peak conditioned Luka gets you closer to that every year than crippling the Mavs organization financially on betting on older players . Get up and coming players in Luka's timeline like Gaff and PJ.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#951 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:08 pm

joesha1698 wrote:Spencer Dinwiddie on Lakers and Mavs radar. I would welcome Spencer back, would you? I think veterans who can break down a defense are very much needed.


I think Lakers might shift their focus on Paul now that he's been waived
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Post#952 » by fuller4379 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:08 pm

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Post#953 » by fuller4379 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:14 pm

Last year everyone was signed by now. This year. Crickets chirping.
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Post#954 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:17 pm

fuller4379 wrote:Last year everyone was signed by now. This year. Crickets chirping.


Nobody wants to get fined for tampering....doesnt mean it doesn't happen, it's Just that teams are more subtle,sneaky now
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#955 » by floppymoose » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:19 pm

Which team will Klay tank?
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Post#956 » by tleikheen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:26 pm

I might get on the Klay bandwagon but he's coming from a ball and player movement offense to the stand at the 3 pt line waiting for a pass from Luka / JKidd offense. Mavs have a stand at the 3 pt offense ,no ball movement ,no player movement.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#957 » by Archx » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:26 pm

floppymoose wrote:Which team will Klay tank?


If he can give Mavs better minutes than THJ or Green, i wouldn't mind if he "tanks" on Mavs. :D
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#958 » by Mr B » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:30 pm

tleikheen wrote:
Because the Championship window is open now not 5 years from now. They have about a 2-3 year window considering Kyrie and Klay’s age and contracts (if they obtain Klay).


I watched the Dallas Mavs in the NBA Finals THIS YEAR..... the window is open every yr Luka is healthy and there has been much debate that if Luka was in peak condition the Mavs COULD have won.
Getting players who are older ,high dollared and more prone to injury doesn't get the Mavs closer than where they got this year without them. High dollared players doesn't equal Championship ,I'd argue a peak conditioned Luka gets you closer to that every year than crippling the Mavs organization financially on betting on older players . Get up and coming players in Luka's timeline like Gaff and PJ.

You’re probably right about the Mavs being contenders as long as Luka is healthy however this current team as constructed has about a 2-3 year window. It’s up to Nico to figure out how to acquire the players to extend that window. But as of RIGHT NOW, this particular team has about 2-3 years.

So adding veteran players who have proven they can perform under playoff pressure (and Finals pressure specifically) is a good thing. Tell me how much would Klay’s shooting have helped in the Finals this year.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#959 » by fuller4379 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:32 pm

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floppymoose wrote:Which team will Klay tank?


If he can give Mavs better minutes than THJ or Green, i wouldn't mind if he "tanks" on Mavs. :D


If he only costs us Green and we still have the money for DJJ, then I see no problem in signing him.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#960 » by Archx » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:36 pm

fuller4379 wrote:
Archx wrote:
floppymoose wrote:Which team will Klay tank?


If he can give Mavs better minutes than THJ or Green, i wouldn't mind if he "tanks" on Mavs. :D


If he only costs us Green and we still have the money for DJJ, then I see no problem in signing him.


They can't get him otherwise anyway. Since it's more or less clear DJJ is coming back and will be signed into MLE. They have 16.2M TPE which they can trade Klay into or straight up for Green if matching salaries.

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