2023-24 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#4061 » by homecourtloss » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:32 pm

eminence wrote:A) Losing Hartenstein hurts

B) I think the Knicks probably overpaid a bit for Bridges

C) Assuming they bring OG back I still like how the Knicks will be looking going into next season quite a lot (may need a bit of help at the C spot given Robinson's health history)


Bridges was a great addition in a move to try and compete with the Celtics as long as Hartenstein is still there. Obviously 5 picks is a heavy price but they might not be this close for a great long while which is strange in itself since you would think a New York team would be able to attract talent. Without Hartenstein, it seems they won’t have that same defense, so I don’t know. I’m also quite skeptical that Brunson can repeat what he did this year.
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#4062 » by sp6r=underrated » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:39 pm

homecourtloss wrote:
eminence wrote:A) Losing Hartenstein hurts

B) I think the Knicks probably overpaid a bit for Bridges

C) Assuming they bring OG back I still like how the Knicks will be looking going into next season quite a lot (may need a bit of help at the C spot given Robinson's health history)


Bridges was a great addition in a move to try and compete with the Celtics as long as Hartenstein is still there. Obviously 5 picks is a heavy price but they might not be this close for a great long while which is strange in itself since you would think a New York team would be able to attract talent. Without Hartenstein, it seems they won’t have that same defense, so I don’t know. I’m also quite skeptical that Brunson can repeat what he did this year.


All fair points, especially the Brunson aside, but I'll say as a Knicks fan I haven't been this pumped for a team since the mid-90s.
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#4063 » by theonlyclutch » Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:53 pm

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Toronto is probably the fastest growing city in the G7. Canada added over a million people last year and probably 70% of them went to the GTA, which is probably up to >8 million people now.

But yeah, the problem of housing prices going through the roof in most global cities is some combination of:
1) High numbers of people moving into the city
2) NIMBY-ism among incumbent homeowners preventing supply or any form of density from being built

The only major city that I can recall has managed to contain housing costs is Tokyo, but the social contract there is very different there and housing is broadly not viewed as an asset.


My working theory is nimbyism is as popular in "land poor" countries like Japan as it is in "land rich" countries like the US/Canada.

In the land poor countries the nimbys get rolled because the national govt., has no choice but to intervene otherwise you get chaos.

In land rich countries the national government doesn't intervene because they rely on safety valve regions. In the US it is Texas which is pro-housing. Not sure where it is in Canada.


Japan is fairly unique in that homes are razed after 20-30 years and replaced anew. Homeowners also don't have a lot of power to stop development so you have an immensely dense city like Tokyo where everything is built up to the sky and wall-to-wall, greenery be damned. Japanese people by and large don't view their homes as investments but more as an expense so the incentives aren't there to drive housing prices ever higher.

This is a lot different in the West where housing is most people's primary asset of worth. And unlike Japan, a country comprised of a homogenous group who is also highly collectivist, the West is a lot more heterogenous ethnically and culturally and individualistic. So NIMBY-ism is a lot stronger here.


Seoul, Taipei, Hong Kong, and damn near every mainland Chinese city all have very expensive real estate markets so I don't think homogeneous, highly collectivist countries have this automatically figured out either. I think the real problem here is that with ZIRP for so long people/corporatioms nearly everywhere have started to treat real estate as an investible asset, which diverts capital from potentially going to more productive means, all the while devaluing savings from labor. What's likely needed to discourage this is likely significantly higher land/absentee taxes (to discourage B&H speculation and potentially improve housing stock liquidity) with the extra windfall corresponding to deductions in income taxes to incentivize labor over investment (esp. unproductive ones that RE can tend to be).
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#4064 » by OhayoKD » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:06 am

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Dr Positivity wrote:That Lebron added Jokic to his rivals list is pretty crazy timeline wise.


I just wish the Bron Fans had the same fire for Jokic they had for Steph :lol:


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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#4065 » by penbeast0 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:06 am

theonlyclutch wrote:
Seoul, Taipei, Hong Kong, and damn near every mainland Chinese city all have very expensive real estate markets so I don't think homogeneous, highly collectivist countries have this automatically figured out either. I think the real problem here is that with ZIRP for so long people/corporatioms nearly everywhere have started to treat real estate as an investible asset, which diverts capital from potentially going to more productive means, all the while devaluing savings from labor. What's likely needed to discourage this is likely significantly higher land/absentee taxes (to discourage B&H speculation and potentially improve housing stock liquidity) with the extra windfall corresponding to deductions in income taxes to incentivize labor over investment (esp. unproductive ones that RE can tend to be).


It's a possible solution except that what it will do is actually raise real estate prices and particularly the price for rental/low income housing which tends to be more investment/absentee owned rather than detached housing and therefore it is not solving the problem.

In the long run, lowering income taxes might help unemployment as people invest in more labor intensive business instead but, at least in the USA, a significant number of low income earners don't actually pay income taxes now even with the standard deduction so extra deductions won't help them (and making the tax code more complicated means even more people will not take advantage or not even file).
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#4066 » by jalengreen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:08 pm

Seems kinda cooked for the Warriors ngl
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#4067 » by Clyde Frazier » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:27 pm

We've reached 200+ pages so time to continue the discussion in next season's thread: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2391358

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