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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1681 » by RickyDizzle » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:24 am

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NuckyPowell wrote:If Tillman comes back, I bet he gets something close to this, or maybe three for 24.

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Then Tillman won’t be back. Tons of PF/C out there for the vet min


Think X is more like 3 for $15m, would definitely do it too. I wouldn't have brought Kornet back, but whatever. Fine innings eater but no upside.
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Post#1682 » by RickyDizzle » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:25 am

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Someone earlier (too lazy to check) said suns should have their first choice of vet min centers given the opportunity for minutes. This looks to support that claim.
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Post#1683 » by 165bows » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:34 am

hugepatsfan wrote:
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hugepatsfan wrote:I'm gonna put this out there as a "never know unless you ask" idea...

Tobias Harris is reportedly talking to a whole bunch of teams that only have the MLE to offer. He's made a crap load of money in his career and was always getting KILLED by PHI fans and media. Who knows, maybe he'd do a 1 year reset for the minimum. Just throwing it out there lol

Always fun imo to have a sort of stretch guy - ie, not really likely at all but if you squint hard and all the right things line up properly it’s not impossible.

Hadn’t thought of this one at all but now that the (apparently *very* slim) possibility of JVal has come and gone, that would be a hilarious fu on his part. More likely though he signs in Detroit for more mega bucks.


My thought is that we don't really have a proven backup to Tatum at PF other than Horford. And with KP's injury history and Horford's age, we probably have to count on less minutes for them each year. And If you're looking to slash minutes from that duo, the Horford time at PF is what you'd cut first. My thinking is that the first 48 minutes those guys combine to play goes towards the C spot. You don't get any PF time until you cover all 48 at the 5.

Regular season:

PG: Holiday (30), Pritchard (18)
SG: White (32), Brown (16)
SF: Brown (18), Hauser (20), Tatum (10)
PF: Tatum (25), Harris (23)
C: Porzingis (27), Horford (21)

Everyone's actual minutes per game would be higher because of extended minutes when someone else sits. But that's a nice 9 man rotation.

Come playoff time, probably have to cut one guy but cross that bridge when it comes.

I am 100% into a modern day Bill Walton this coming year that just puts things over the top.

Not sure who it could be (though that’s a true out of the box suggestion) but it would be hilarious watching everyone go from “Celtics aren’t that good really” to “Celtics are too good now that players are jumping on the bandwagon” would be a hilarious turn of events.
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Post#1684 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:36 am

Unbiased observation: Anyone we don't get/sign/trade for undoubtedly sucks.
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Post#1685 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:41 am

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NuckyPowell wrote:If Tillman comes back, I bet he gets something close to this, or maybe three for 24.

Read on Twitter

Then Tillman won’t be back. Tons of PF/C out there for the vet min


Think X is more like 3 for $15m, would definitely do it too. I wouldn't have brought Kornet back, but whatever. Fine innings eater but no upside.

Kornet signed for $2.8 million, Queta signed for $2.25 million.

I doubt the Celtics offer more than $3 million for Tillman when Bamba, Bryant, Saric, Covington etc. are all going to sign for the vet min
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Post#1686 » by snowman » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:44 am

So, we have resigned Kornet and Queta. Tatum is a no brainer extension. White wants to be back, and his camp said they wanted to extend this offseason, so that should be a no brainer also. So that makes the team so far:
Starters:
White (expected extension)
Holiday
Brown
Tatum (expected extension)
Porzingis

Stay ready bench:
Pritchard
Springer
Walsh
Scheierman (1st round pick, will be on rookie deal)
Hauser (team option picked up, working on longer deal)
Horford
Queta (resigned 2 years)
Kornet (resigned 1 year)

Probable 2-way
Watson
Peterson

We are still waiting on a Tillman update. I'm hoping he is resigned. If he is, that will give us 14 roster spots taken, with one still open and one 2-way still open. If that spot is used, I expect it to be a PG/SG or an athletic wing.

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Post#1687 » by Bad-Thoma » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:45 am

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FlyBono wrote:Kornet was exposed big time vs pacers on the defensive end Game 1, rest of playoffs zero meaningful minutes

One year deal at 3m is a good deal for what he brought to regular season but a Better option should be scouted and signed or by trade for another playoff run


The better options could be Tillman and/or a more developed Queta. And KP not being out. Also Luke without a sprained wrist.

Yeah. You gotta plan for injuries, though.
There's a stat somewhere that says that 10% of a Team will be injured during the Season.


50% of that stat is true 95% of the time.

I'm happy they resigned Luke, he's a solid regular season minutes eater. Matchup dependent when it comes to the playoffs as teams will game plan to take advantage of him in space but the ultimate goal is to get Horford and KP healthy to the postseason and Kornet will help get us there without hurting us. If Queta steps up and takes his role you know there will be no drama from Luke as well, he's just a solid dude.
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Post#1688 » by Bill Lumbergh » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:47 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
NuckyPowell wrote:If Tillman comes back, I bet he gets something close to this, or maybe three for 24.

Read on Twitter

Then Tillman won’t be back. Tons of PF/C out there for the vet min

I tend to agree that he probably won't be back. I might have overstated that 3 for 24. 3 for 20 is possible though. Who do you have in mind as a 4/5 guy for vet min? I honestly don't know.
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Post#1689 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:01 am

NuckyPowell wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
NuckyPowell wrote:If Tillman comes back, I bet he gets something close to this, or maybe three for 24.

Read on Twitter

Then Tillman won’t be back. Tons of PF/C out there for the vet min

I tend to agree that he probably won't be back. I might have overstated that 3 for 24. 3 for 20 is possible though. Who do you have in mind as a 4/5 guy for vet min? I honestly don't know.

There are a ton out there Bamba, Saric, Covington, Bryant, Morris etc.

Celtics have to pay JT, White and Hauser. Doubt they spend more than $3 million on their last big
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Post#1690 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:05 am

Oshae sounds like he's gonna walk. Tillman, it's been very quiet.

I wonder if we've offered Tillman low money and he wants more

Definitely in on RoCo or Batum on the minimum
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Post#1691 » by fallguy » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:07 am

I think Kornet should start until KP gets back.

Al needs to be around 20 mins/game this year.
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Post#1692 » by meatball sub » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:08 am

PG signing with philly wouldve had me concerned 5 years ago, but now? he's got 1, maybe 2 years left at a high level. he also strikes me as the kinda guy that plays as much as possible during a contract year to get paid & then suddenly gets injured all the time after getting paid.

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Post#1693 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:14 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:Oshae sounds like he's gonna walk. Tillman, it's been very quiet.

I wonder if we've offered Tillman low money and he wants more

Definitely in on RoCo or Batum on the minimum

RoCo, Batum, second that. Maybe a flier on Thad Young, how’s Gallos knees? And maybe Lamar Stevens back or possibly Joe Ingles as a mentor for Scheierman. Dario Saric. I think that’s most of the minimum guys I’d consider for forward.
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Post#1694 » by brackdan70 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:17 am

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Post#1695 » by snowman » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:20 am

If we can't resign Tillman, which I think (hope) we will, then I'm all for giving Theis another go as a bench PF. He can cut into Horford's minutes and be another stretch shooter, all though not nearly as good a shooter as he was when last here. He probably could be had for vet minimum. I would much rather have Tillman, but I could except Theis as a backup.
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Post#1696 » by chakdaddy » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:24 am

Bad-Thoma wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
The better options could be Tillman and/or a more developed Queta. And KP not being out. Also Luke without a sprained wrist.

Yeah. You gotta plan for injuries, though.
There's a stat somewhere that says that 10% of a Team will be injured during the Season.


50% of that stat is true 95% of the time.

I'm happy they resigned Luke, he's a solid regular season minutes eater. Matchup dependent when it comes to the playoffs as teams will game plan to take advantage of him in space but the ultimate goal is to get Horford and KP healthy to the postseason and Kornet will help get us there without hurting us. If Queta steps up and takes his role you know there will be no drama from Luke as well, he's just a solid dude.


How many backup bigs do we need? Between KP injury and Al and KP load management - at least 3 will need to play - I'd rather see 1 more in reserve. Also - we need at least one who can be a 4. So I'd like to retain X and find another - Saric or Bamba. Saric becomes more attractive as a 4 if X leaves, but either way we could use a stretch 4 like him
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Post#1697 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:56 am

X and Batum and call it.
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Post#1698 » by darrendaye » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:00 am

If they sign Tillman, I think that'll be it. IMO they want a runway to sign Watson to the big club sometime during the season.
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Post#1699 » by darrendaye » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:05 am

redslastlaugh wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Oshae sounds like he's gonna walk. Tillman, it's been very quiet.

I wonder if we've offered Tillman low money and he wants more

Definitely in on RoCo or Batum on the minimum

RoCo, Batum, second that. Maybe a flier on Thad Young, how’s Gallos knees? And maybe Lamar Stevens back or possibly Joe Ingles as a mentor for Scheierman. Dario Saric. I think that’s most of the minimum guys I’d consider for forward.


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Post#1700 » by RickyDizzle » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:19 am

I would sign X and Davison. Boring to only bring a rookie in, but the Jay's, Hauser, and the rook are good at the wings. Especially since White and Holiday can play some 2.

It'll never happen but our best lineup is with Al as the 6th man, I'd do that even while KP is out and see what Queta could do running with the starters and with 20 mpg or more (or Tillman if he resigns). I would like a stretch 4, plus Queta, plus Tillman, but with Kornet back, looks like it's Tillman or a stretch 4.

Tatum can play 25 or 30 minutes at the 4, 18 to 23 minutes at the 4 and 48 at the 5... 66 to 71 "big" minutes right now with Kp out between Horford, Kornet, and Queta... they are really all 5s and 23 minutes each sounds like too much. Need someone that can play some 4... Tillman, Batum, Brisset, Covington would be my list (in that order).

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