2024-25 General Thread

[codydaze]

Since the offseason is officially underway, it's time for a new general thread.

[codydaze]

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Solid to get Len back for only 3.3m. Hoping he's a bigger part of the rotation because his advanced numbers are always really good.

[blind prophet]

I'm going to nitpick a little bit.

I think it is too early for this. Keep the roster spot available & cash to test the trade markets for a couple of days first. Tell his agent we are working on something and bump it like 100k more if he can wait a few days first.

[blind prophet]

I'd guess JaVale isn't coming back now right? At least not until late FA?

[Lost in LA]

I'd guess JaVale isn't coming back now right? At least not until late FA?

As a player or as a coach?

[typedrat]

I know it's unlikely, at least if we're making a big move, but I really want Barnes to be able to retire a King. He can't start any more, but I think he'd feast going up against bench units.

[codydaze]

I know it's unlikely, at least if we're making a big move, but I really want Barnes to be able to retire a King. He can't start any more, but I think he'd feast going up against bench units.

I definitely agree that Barnes would look really good in the second unit. My hope is we move Huerter plus whatever else it takes to upgrade the starting 4 spot. Slide Barnes down to the backup 3.

[OGSactownballer]

I'm going to nitpick a little bit.

I think it is too early for this. Keep the roster spot available & cash to test the trade markets for a couple of days first. Tell his agent we are working on something and bump it like 100k more if he can wait a few days first.

There was a cap hold for his spot anyway and I believe it was greater than this. The roster spot is something that can be handled in trade by including a small piece to open it or if we do what I hope we will send out more bodies to make up the money than are coming back so it’s irrelevant.

At this amount we have consistency and a solid b/u at Center and actually open more money below the tax threshold.

It’s a solid move that I expected.

[codydaze]

I'm going to nitpick a little bit.

I think it is too early for this. Keep the roster spot available & cash to test the trade markets for a couple of days first. Tell his agent we are working on something and bump it like 100k more if he can wait a few days first.

I believe this is just an agreement and when he officially signs it can be the last move we make so money wise this doesn't affect our flexibility at all. The roster spot sure but I think we have 2 or 3 open and I imagine any trade would be more going out than coming in.

[blind prophet]

I'd guess JaVale isn't coming back now right? At least not until late FA?

As a player or as a coach?

I heard he actually was a pretty smart guy despite some of the Shaqtin events of the past.

[blind prophet]

Thanks for breaking down the Len situation more for me fellas. There is some talk about our defense rating being much better with him on the court going around the net.

[OGSactownballer]

Thanks for breaking down the Len situation more for me fellas. There is some talk about our defense rating being much better with him on the court going around the net.

It is because he clogs the paint more than Domas - who is much more effective switching out and as a rebounder. Basically he’s a more traditional beefy Center now minus the above the rim abilities that McGee has.

In other news the Pacers extended Obi Toppin at basically the MLE amount (4/60 or avg 15/year). Goes to show you that those type of guys are just not worth over bidding on when they are a mid level role player. You fight against yourself and there is likely to be someone better suited out there.

Personally I’d be very interested in Smith at about 5-7 million per. He can play behind both the 4 & 5 and makes for a lot more options and size lineups once Barnes is replaced in the starting PF role.

[BoogieTime]

As you know, I think Len is a more than serviceable backup c. still amazed he doesn't get more play in FA

[OxAndFox]

Naji Marshall to Mavericks. 3/$27m. Pretty decent contract.
DJJ to Clippers 3/$30m.

Mavs or Lakers look likely for Klay.
PG13 likely 76ers now.
West is changing quite a bit.

[madskillz8]

Naji Marshall to Mavericks. 3/$27m. Pretty decent contract.
DJJ to Clippers 3/$30m.

Mavs or Lakers look likely for Klay.
PG13 likely 76ers now.
West is changing quite a bit.

IMHO, a good offseason (so far) for Kings regardless of our next move.

Denver lost KCP and their rotation was already very tight.

LAC replacing PG with DJJ, and Kawhi's health is still a concern. Harden is one year older.

Dallas is running it back (and lost a good bench player in THJ)

GSW was barely 10th, and about to lose Klay and CP3 for nothing. Steph is now 36.

Lakers will be a mess IMHO with a rookie coach who will try to give rotational minutes to Bronny instead of the Max Christie.

and Pelicans. What a great week for Mike Brown who lost 6 straight to them. Half of their wing rotation is already gone and Ingram is on the block.

Phoenix might trade Durant to HOU, which could make both teams worse than us. Even if he stays, he will be 36 before the season starts.

OKC / Wolves / Grizzlies are ok but we already match them well.

[OxAndFox]

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IMHO, a good offseason (so far) for Kings regardless of our next move.

Denver lost KCP and their rotation was already very tight.

LAC replacing PG with DJJ, and Kawhi's health is still a concern. Harden is one year older.

Dallas is running it back (and lost a good bench player in THJ)

GSW was barely 10th, and about to lose Klay and CP3 for nothing. Steph is now 36.

Lakers will be a mess IMHO with a rookie coach who will try to give rotational minutes to Bronny instead of the Max Christie.

and Pelicans. What a great week for Mike Brown who lost 6 straight to them. Half of their wing rotation is already gone and Ingram is on the block.

Phoenix might trade Durant to HOU, which could make both teams worse than us. Even if he stays, he will be 36 before the season starts.

OKC / Wolves / Grizzlies are ok but we already match them well.

IMO Dallas has improved a bit. I take Marshall over DJJ, and they got Grimes for THJ who probably evens out the pair of players going in and out. Where they might see an uptick is having an off season together.

I don't agree with the Pelicans take. I think they have improved. They only gave up Daniels and Nance. They do need to take care of their center position soon or that will be a problem.

GSW and Lakers I'm not too worried about. I don't think they will be anywhere near it next season. If LeBron and AD stay healthy for an entire season again I will be shocked.

OKC is going to be tough, but right now the Kings do match up well on them as you mention. Grizzlies are always tough, but they don't have anything for Sabonis. He averaged almost 20/20 on them last season with JJJ. Don't think Edey will be much chop for him. Depending on who is there for the PF match up, I like the Wolves match up too.

I do agree the West has dropped slightly, BUT I will say this is no time for Monte to sit there and expect to stand still and improve in the standings. Its looking more likely the only way to improve this team is via trade. There's still a heap of cap space out there for guys to get.

[madskillz8]

and Pelicans. What a great week for Mike Brown who lost 6 straight to them. Half of their wing rotation is already gone and Ingram is on the block.

I don't agree with the Pelicans take. I think they have improved. They only gave up Daniels and Nance. They do need to take care of their center position soon or that will be a problem.

My take on Pelicans is about their lengthy defensive wings more than their overall improvement.

Because that was the reason why they beat us 6 times in four months. Not because they had Zion; they kicked our ass twice without him. They heavily pressured our POA 48 mins, sometimes with Jose Alvarado but mostly with Marshall or other wings, switching all the time. Now they are giving up their wing depth, the sole reason they beat us that much, at the expense of other improvements. From Kings' perspective, they are just becoming easier to deal with - independent of their other improvements that can affect win column. Also remembering how 5-9 WC standings have ended last year, there is a huge difference between going 2-2 vs 0-4 against a team you are competing for playoff spots.

[KF10]

Hopefully Monte does something today.

[LightTheBeam]

Well most of the cheaper fits are off the board.

Naji Marshall
DJJ
Jalen smith
Oubre

The optimistic side of me says Monte is pushing in for Ingram/Lauri and Kuzma is his backup option. He can still sign Hayward Highsmith/Kyle Anderson off the bench.

The other hand saying we don't have the assets to get these guys and nobody wants to come here so they are taking less for better teams/playing opportunity.

[Lost in LA]

Hartenstein to OKC makes them even stronger.

We need size and to me while Ingram is a better player than Kuzma, Kuzma's contract is more flexible and attractive. I would add 2 forwards if possible as we are aet at guard, and Kuzma over Ingram would give us more flexibility. If we are going for broke, then Ingram it is, but that may create cap issues.