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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1781 » by Arsenal » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:46 am

NearingZero wrote:
kriss73 wrote:Nance (11M)? Olynyk (13M)? Grant Williams (13M?) B.Clarke (12.5M)?

I can't find many others in the 10-13M range and tradable

Pretty sure none of those are possible. Actually, not quite true, but would have to trade McCain and manipulate cap space a bit:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2389684&start=1740#p114078040

Hopefully we get some reporting soon that clarifies the apron situation.


Where did you see we will be hard capped at the 1st Apron by using the Room Exception?

I thought that was only if you used most of the Non- Taxpayer MidLevel?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1782 » by kriss73 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:46 am

NearingZero wrote:
kriss73 wrote:Nance (11M)? Olynyk (13M)? Grant Williams (13M?) B.Clarke (12.5M)?

I can't find many others in the 10-13M range and tradable

Pretty sure none of those are possible. Actually, not quite true, but would have to trade McCain and manipulate cap space a bit:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2389684&start=1740#p114078040

Hopefully we get some reporting soon that clarifies the apron situation.


I'm not a capologist but:

https://sixers.wiki/Salary+Cap/Philadelphia+76ers+Salary+Cap+Overview

Remove Oubre from the equation: he will be our last signing.

BBPaul +2.3M in cap space = at least 11M salary incoming
Then you sign Maxey (35) and Oubre (8) and then you're hardcapped at the first apron with about 172M in salaries.

But I'm not sure if my math is right LOL
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1783 » by Arsenal » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:46 am

Get me the Homie, RoCo and Hayward and let’s roll.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1784 » by NearingZero » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:51 am

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NearingZero wrote:
kriss73 wrote:Nance (11M)? Olynyk (13M)? Grant Williams (13M?) B.Clarke (12.5M)?

I can't find many others in the 10-13M range and tradable

Pretty sure none of those are possible. Actually, not quite true, but would have to trade McCain and manipulate cap space a bit:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2389684&start=1740#p114078040

Hopefully we get some reporting soon that clarifies the apron situation.


Where did you see we will be hard capped at the 1st Apron by using the Room Exception?

I thought that was only if you used most of the Non- Taxpayer MidLevel?

This article says "using more than the taxpayer portion of the MLE" triggers it. The CBA FAQ site for the previous CBA calls it the Room MLE, so I assume the limitation applies. I haven't been able to find verification of these interpretations elsewhere though.

Trading Reed for more than his salary (like for the $10M+ guys listed) would definitely trigger it though, AFAIK.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1785 » by Jailblazers7 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:06 am

I could see the next target being Precious Achiuwa. He gives us a lot of what we’re missing at PF.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1786 » by kriss73 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:15 am

Aside from Reggie Jackson (if bought out), who are the PG13 friends that could join the Sixers on minimum contracts?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1787 » by NearingZero » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:17 am

kriss73 wrote:I'm not a capologist but:

https://sixers.wiki/Salary+Cap/Philadelphia+76ers+Salary+Cap+Overview

Remove Oubre from the equation: he will be our last signing.

BBPaul +2.3M in cap space = at least 11M salary incoming
Then you sign Maxey (35) and Oubre (8) and then you're hardcapped at the first apron with about 172M in salaries.

But I'm not sure if my math is right LOL

Kinda long, so I'll spoiler it:

Spoiler:
Take out Maxey, Reed, and the Incomplete Roster amounts from his total salary amount:

145.8 - 13.0 - 7.7 - 3.5 = 121.6

Now add back Maxey's max:

121.6 + 35.1 = 156.7

That's for 8 players. Minimum roster size is 14, so let's add 5 minimum contracts before the final larger one:

156.7 + 5*2.1 = 167.2

Now subtract that from the first apron:

178.1 - 167.2 = 10.9

Now, the numbers aren't perfectly precise, but it gives a pretty good sense of things. I'm not sure if the Sixers would be willing to go into the season with only 14 contracts and no space to work with. If so, then an $11M guy might be possible while keeping McCain. At that point, the exact numbers start to matter.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1788 » by ankle420breaker » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:19 am

How much cap do we have left after this PG deal??

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1789 » by 76ciology » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:20 am

kriss73 wrote:Aside from Reggie Jackson (if bought out), who are the PG13 friends that could join the Sixers on minimum contracts?


Danny Granger, Tyler Hansbrough, David West and Nick Collison
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1790 » by nitocobola » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:21 am

the good part: i like the fit and we spend 0 assets on him.

The bard part: the age and the contract.

We have a two-three year window with embiid, if it doesn't work it's time to rebuild
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1791 » by kriss73 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:23 am

76ciology wrote:
kriss73 wrote:Aside from Reggie Jackson (if bought out), who are the PG13 friends that could join the Sixers on minimum contracts?


Danny Granger, Tyler Hansbrough, David West and Nick Collison


What a bunch! :D
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1792 » by Kolkmania » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:27 am

stormi wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:
stormi wrote:Waking up to a Paul Reed trade for a (good + non washed) forward that's taller than 6'8 and can bring some rebounding and defense would complete my summer.


I think Reed ticks those three boxes. :wink:

I assume that we're going to wait and see how the FA market plays out. With such a hole in the rotation, it is an ideal spot for FA's to prove their capabilities with a one-year deal, similar to Oubre last year.


I was thinking that when I was typing it out lmao.

Reed could theoretically stay, I classify him as a C though, and there's some fluidity issues trying to play Reed alongside Drummond or Embiid.

Nurse was a double big merchant in Toronto and he never even attempt to play Reed alongside Embiid due to clunkiness.

We still desperately need to address secondary rim protection and rebounding in the S5. It would help to preserve Embiid throughout the season when he's on the floor. It's just far too tasking to expect Embiid to have to anchor the entire defense by himself, step out onto the perimeter on switches and still have to crash the glass for us to have any chance at competing in the rebounding battle.

I would hate to see George playing the 4 next season.


I agree what you said, ideally you'd have an Aaron Gordon type of 4, but everybody likes that kind of player. That doesn't really sound feasible to me with our current cap limitations and roster construction that limits the kind of salaries we can trade.

Was also surprised that Nurse never tried Reed as the 4 alongside Embiid. But with Harris and Batum we had relatively good two-way options at the 4 for 48 minutes in the PO. He might be forced in more creative options this year.
Having an actually valid back-up center with Drummond instead of Bamba also makes it easier to try Reed at the 4. Embiid has managed to play effectively with Simmons and even Richaun Holmes next to him, so I honestly don't think it would be disastrous to have Reed roam around and look for garbage points and set effective off-ball screens.

I think we're going to target at least a more trigger-happy 4 as a minimum contract guy and see whether he, Reed or even Ricky Council are valid options alongside George. If not, we could combine Reed and McCain's salaries to target a specific player during the season.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1793 » by Arsenal » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:48 am

Yes we could keep BBall as the starting PF. In that case we probably bring Oubre off the bench in order to have better shooting in the lineup.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1794 » by sodmoraes » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:59 am

We got him! He may be underwhelming on the playoffs, but he complements our duo really well. Shoots pretty good from 3 with great volume and still a capable defender, and can iso a bit. Will aleviate greatly our problems when embiid sits, playing with Maxey. Woke up now with a big nightmare( its 5 am in my country) but atleast saw the great news!

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1795 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:10 am

Ok, we still need to figure out the power forward situation. My guess is Paul Reed gets a shot at it. There aren't many options left in free agency. Precious Achiuwa is available, we could easily sign Taurean Prince. The last thing you want is Paul George playing in that spot. Saric is another option. How much money do we have left?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1796 » by 76ciology » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:11 am

This story reminds me of our journey in this “process”

There's a Buddhist proverb. A farmer loses his prize horse. His neighbor comes over to commiserate about the misfortune, but the farmer just shrugs: who knows if it is a misfortune or not. The next day, the horse returns. With it are twelve more wild horses.

The neighbor congratulates the farmer on this excellent news, but the farmer just shrugs. Soon, the farmer's son falls off one of the feral horses as he's training it. He breaks a leg. The neighbor expresses his condolences.

The farmer just shrugs. Who knows. The country declares war and the army comes to the village, to conscript all able-bod-ied young men. The farmer's son is passed over because of his leg. How wonderful, the neighbor says. And again the farmer shrugs.
Perhaps.

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1797 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:15 am

Morey did it! Time to give him his flowers.

Really hope we can bring Melton back on a minimum. Not sure what the plan is at the 4 but we’ll see soon enough.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1798 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:17 am

Doug McDermott can possibly be our stretch 4. I think we need to bring KJ Martin back into the mix as well. This can't go unresolved.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1799 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:21 am

We’re leaving heavily towards an offensive team. Hope Morey has some tricks up up his sleeve for the defensive side.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1800 » by sodmoraes » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:26 am

Now sign toebias for the minimum lol... kidding aside, i have a feeling he wont get more than the MLE. He had a lousy last year with us...

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