Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25

[Fierce1]

Toby will not want to be a bench player.

[Higgs Boston]

Harris is very unlikely, Prince is the best wing among realistic wings.

[hugepatsfan]

Definitely agree Harris is unlikely. Most likely scenario remains that he signs into cap space with DET to start at PF or Utah to start at SF. But I'm just saying, what if those teams go in other directions...

There's talk that SAC wants to make a Brandon Ingram move. They'd probably send out Barnes and Huerter. What if NOP prefers salary savings and would rather reroute those guys into DET's cap space? DET could get the same kind of veteran shooting except in those case collect some assets for it.

What if the Jazz decide to sign DeRozen over Harris? Markannen plays PF for them but he can also play SF if they want to accommodate more minutes for at PF for Taylor Hendricks who they took in the lottery last year. They also have John Collins at that PF spot too. They also have Brice Sensabaugh from last draft as a big SF type. DeRozen as a SG/SF shot creator type (they lack PG play as well) might fit that roster better if they go the "big contract for a vet" route with their cap space.

NBA free agency can be a game of musical chairs and sometimes one guy gets left standing when the music stops and needs to take less. I'd just be putting feelers out there to Harris in case there's an opportunity to be had there.

[hugepatsfan]

Harris is very unlikely, Prince is the best wing among realistic wings.

He's interesting. I have Batum ranked higher though.

Obviously I'm trying to speak Harris into existence. Batum would be awesome too. Prince would probably be next up on my list, but at that point I might favor just playing Walsh and/or Scheierman, at least to start the year. If that serves to be an issue, trade for someone like Prince at the deadline.

Harris or Batum would just be great, great adds I think you have to go for if you can. Even over giving young guys a chance, which I generally favor over "meh" vets.

[Celts17Pride]

Toby will not want to be a bench player.

Nevermind make the vet min

[Celts17Pride]

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[Fierce1]

Toby will not want to be a bench player.

Nevermind make the vet min

True.

[chrisab123]

Celtics roster now the 2nd most expensive in the league behind the Suns. Warriors, Lakers, Nuggets, and Clippers could all theoretically avoid the tax. Though Lebron taking a huge paycut is a see-it-to-believe-it situation.

The way the Celtics did it and is continuing to do so is amazing. They might be the only team that has the ability to give the middle finger to the new CBA.

[Fierce1]

Celtics roster now the 2nd most expensive in the league behind the Suns. Warriors, Lakers, Nuggets, and Clippers could all theoretically avoid the tax. Though Lebron taking a huge paycut is a see-it-to-believe-it situation.

The way the Celtics did it and is continuing to do so is amazing. They might be the only team that has the ability to give the middle finger to the new CBA.

Also true.

[ConstableGeneva]

Celtics roster now the 2nd most expensive in the league behind the Suns. Warriors, Lakers, Nuggets, and Clippers could all theoretically avoid the tax. Though Lebron taking a huge paycut is a see-it-to-believe-it situation.

The way the Celtics did it and is continuing to do so is amazing. They might be the only team that has the ability to give the middle finger to the new CBA.

As long as the owners have the appetite to burn money, agreed. It will really start getting expensive next season when repeater tax penalty hits and extensions kick in. They're looking at half a billion payroll (salaries + tax) without major cuts.

[chrisab123]

Celtics roster now the 2nd most expensive in the league behind the Suns. Warriors, Lakers, Nuggets, and Clippers could all theoretically avoid the tax. Though Lebron taking a huge paycut is a see-it-to-believe-it situation.

The way the Celtics did it and is continuing to do so is amazing. They might be the only team that has the ability to give the middle finger to the new CBA.

As long as the owners have the appetite to burn money, agreed. It will really start getting expensive next season when repeater tax penalty hits and extensions kicks in. They're looking at half a billion payroll (salaries + tax) without major cuts.

3 years from now the cap might raise to the point where the 2nd apron is higher. That plus merchandise sales and everything else should help. The one thing that does hurt the Celtics is the fact Jeremy Jacobs takes a nice cut off the top.

[ConstableGeneva]

The way the Celtics did it and is continuing to do so is amazing. They might be the only team that has the ability to give the middle finger to the new CBA.

As long as the owners have the appetite to burn money, agreed. It will really start getting expensive next season when repeater tax penalty hits and extensions kicks in. They're looking at half a billion payroll (salaries + tax) without major cuts.

3 years from now the cap might raise to the point where the 2nd apron is higher. That plus merchandise sales and everything else should help. The one thing that does hurt the Celtics is the fact Jeremy Jacobs takes a nice cut off the top.

Is that the owner of TD Garden? Dunno how that is set up.

[hugepatsfan]

As long as the owners have the appetite to burn money, agreed. It will really start getting expensive next season when repeater tax penalty hits and extensions kicks in. They're looking at half a billion payroll (salaries + tax) without major cuts.

3 years from now the cap might raise to the point where the 2nd apron is higher. That plus merchandise sales and everything else should help. The one thing that does hurt the Celtics is the fact Jeremy Jacobs takes a nice cut off the top.

Is that the owner of TD Garden? Dunno how that is set up.

Yes. Jeremy Jacobs (Bruins owner) also owns TD Garden and the Celtics pay rent/concessions.

Honestly, ownership's long-term play of spending so much money might be to make them a powerhouse to give them a good negotiating stance to try for their own arena somewhere. That's their path to more profitability long term.

[hugepatsfan]

Any rumors on Tristan Vukcevic?

[165bows]

Harris is very unlikely, Prince is the best wing among realistic wings.

He's interesting. I have Batum ranked higher though.

Obviously I'm trying to speak Harris into existence. Batum would be awesome too. Prince would probably be next up on my list, but at that point I might favor just playing Walsh and/or Scheierman, at least to start the year. If that serves to be an issue, trade for someone like Prince at the deadline.

Harris or Batum would just be great, great adds I think you have to go for if you can. Even over giving young guys a chance, which I generally favor over "meh" vets.

Larger point is you just never know when something unexpected might become possible, regardless of the specific name - hance the pattern of keeping that last roster spot open to be able to strike if an opportunity arises.

[cloverleaf]

Celtics roster now the 2nd most expensive in the league behind the Suns. Warriors, Lakers, Nuggets, and Clippers could all theoretically avoid the tax. Though Lebron taking a huge paycut is a see-it-to-believe-it situation.

The way the Celtics did it and is continuing to do so is amazing. They might be the only team that has the ability to give the middle finger to the new CBA.

As long as the owners have the appetite to burn money, agreed. It will really start getting expensive next season when repeater tax penalty hits and extensions kick in. They're looking at half a billion payroll (salaries + tax) without major cuts.

It's not burning money if they win. The capital appreciation of their asset easily justifies it.

[ConstableGeneva]

The way the Celtics did it and is continuing to do so is amazing. They might be the only team that has the ability to give the middle finger to the new CBA.

As long as the owners have the appetite to burn money, agreed. It will really start getting expensive next season when repeater tax penalty hits and extensions kick in. They're looking at half a billion payroll (salaries + tax) without major cuts.

It's not burning money if they win. The capital appreciation of their asset easily justifies it.

Define win. 'Cos winning it all every season or even every other season is so damn hard. Would they be cool if Cs continue to be in the mix for a title next few years without actually winning the title?

[hugepatsfan]

Harris is very unlikely, Prince is the best wing among realistic wings.

He's interesting. I have Batum ranked higher though.

Obviously I'm trying to speak Harris into existence. Batum would be awesome too. Prince would probably be next up on my list, but at that point I might favor just playing Walsh and/or Scheierman, at least to start the year. If that serves to be an issue, trade for someone like Prince at the deadline.

Harris or Batum would just be great, great adds I think you have to go for if you can. Even over giving young guys a chance, which I generally favor over "meh" vets.

Larger point is you just never know when something unexpected might become possible, regardless of the specific name - hance the pattern of keeping that last roster spot open to be able to strike if an opportunity arises.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2015/10/13/david-west-spurs/73865012/

Think back to the reaction back in 2014 when David West signed with the Spurs for the minimum to ring chase after opting out of $12M. People freaked out. People were MAD ONLINE about this when it happened. About how it ruined parity, how all the good players always signed with the same few teams, etc.

You just never know who might say F it and sign with a powerhouse team like us for the minimum over a MLE or room exception deal with a middling team. I'm certainly not confident or predicting that Harris does that, but I do see some potential for his market to fall through.

DET could opt for salary dumps (I think SAC ends up moving Barnes/Huerter for Ingram and NOP could prefer to move those guys for savings). I could see DeRozen in Utah. I could see OKC using their cap on Hartenstein. I think SA will opt to play kids and stay as an "over the cap team" rather than use cap space. If all that happens, Harris is looking at exception offers and you neve rknow.

[165bows]

He's interesting. I have Batum ranked higher though.

Obviously I'm trying to speak Harris into existence. Batum would be awesome too. Prince would probably be next up on my list, but at that point I might favor just playing Walsh and/or Scheierman, at least to start the year. If that serves to be an issue, trade for someone like Prince at the deadline.

Harris or Batum would just be great, great adds I think you have to go for if you can. Even over giving young guys a chance, which I generally favor over "meh" vets.

Larger point is you just never know when something unexpected might become possible, regardless of the specific name - hance the pattern of keeping that last roster spot open to be able to strike if an opportunity arises.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2015/10/13/david-west-spurs/73865012/

Think back to the reaction back in 2014 when David West signed with the Spurs for the minimum to ring chase after opting out of $12M. People freaked out. People were MAD ONLINE about this when it happened. About how it ruined parity, how all the good players always signed with the same few teams, etc.

You just never know who might say F it and sign with a powerhouse team like us for the minimum over a MLE or room exception deal with a middling team. I'm certainly not confident or predicting that Harris does that, but I do see some potential for his market to fall through.

DET could opt for salary dumps (I think SAC ends up moving Barnes/Huerter for Ingram and NOP could prefer to move those guys for savings). I could see DeRozen in Utah. I could see OKC using their cap on Hartenstein. I think SA will opt to play kids and stay as an "over the cap team" rather than use cap space. If all that happens, Harris is looking at exception offers and you never know.

Ha I had DeRozan as a buy-low guy for like two years, he's actually someone I could see (not necessarily here but overall) taking less to play somewhere good. He's made good money and only has a year or two left for sure.

Funny though, West not taking less to come to Boston in ~2011 had me so grumpy lol.

Edit: damn knew he played a lot but didn't realize he led the NBA in RS minute totals last year at 34 that's crazy.

[Memokerobi]

I like the PG signing for the Sixers. Fits with Maxey and Embiid really well but I still have us ahead of them. However, there is a legit chance they can also add Markkanen at some point during this season and that would scare me, hope Ainge doesn’t send him there