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Post#1081 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:27 am

Tobias Harris is just 31yo, seems he played for 20 years :lol:

Not a bad pick... Phila will dump someone after signing PG13.
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Post#1082 » by arkuo » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:48 am

The bench is shored up nice with Grimes and Marshall.

It's the starting SF spot that we need to fill now. Lucky for us there are options. Klay, Bridges, Jerami Grant etc. Any one of those name should be good.
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Post#1083 » by Apz » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:56 pm

Do we even have the bae? Didnt we use it on curry?
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Post#1084 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:57 pm

Apz wrote:Do we even have the bae? Didnt we use it on curry?

Once POR matched Thybulle, Mavs switched Curry to be part of the MLE, and rolled the BAE to this year.
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Post#1085 » by Darren » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:04 pm

Are the Mavs getting Wiggins from GSW as well? What is being offered after all?
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Post#1086 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:08 pm

Darren wrote:Are the Mavs getting Wiggins from GSW as well? What is being offered after all?


If he is healthy and not mentally broken then he is the best option available.
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Post#1087 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:35 pm

OKC is the team to beat in the west, good God, Hartenstein and Caruso...
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Post#1088 » by Archx » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:39 pm

Mavrelous wrote:OKC is the team to beat in the west, good God, Hartenstein and Caruso...


If Lively comes back improved as we expect him to, i'm kinda not worried, like i wasn't worried the last time. Weirdly enough, i would be worried only about MEM in West. Somehow they are a huge unknown right now. Before all the BS with Ja, they were a deep and talented team.

Sure, OKC could dominate the regular season but playoffs things change. I would say real threat to Mavs will be the same 2 teams as last time. OKC and Minny.
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Post#1089 » by tleikheen » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:43 pm

Hartenstein makes all those in the paint floaters and Shai is automatic at 2 pt execution. Pts are pts in the NBA
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Post#1090 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:46 pm

If Mavs want to be serious players next year they need to find a starting SF...Naji is a backup,as is Green
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Post#1091 » by Bob8 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:59 pm

Mavrelous wrote:OKC is the team to beat in the west, good God, Hartenstein and Caruso...


Giving 30 mio per year for 8/8 player is kinda crazy. And will he be just backup for Chet or Chet will play on 4? With their assets they should go after Markkanen.
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Post#1092 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:08 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:OKC is the team to beat in the west, good God, Hartenstein and Caruso...


Giving 30 mio per year for 8/8 player is kinda crazy. And will he be just backup for Chet or Chet will play on 4? With their assets they should go after Markkanen.

Chet was +14 on/off and only +2 on court in the PO, the team fell apart w/o him on the floor, I would've done the same, they can pay the 30M, 2 of their big 3 are on rookie contracts, pay 30M for 25MPG RS guy that'll carry the load for 15MPG in the PO.
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Post#1093 » by Bob8 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:16 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
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Mavrelous wrote:OKC is the team to beat in the west, good God, Hartenstein and Caruso...


Giving 30 mio per year for 8/8 player is kinda crazy. And will he be just backup for Chet or Chet will play on 4? With their assets they should go after Markkanen.

Chet was +14 on/off and only +2 on court in the PO, the team fell apart w/o him on the floor, I would've done the same, they can pay the 30M, 2 of their big 3 are on rookie contracts, pay 30M for 25MPG RS guy that'll carry the load for 15MPG in the PO.


Hartenstein is ok, but he doesn't make them that much better that Markkanen would.

OKC biggest problem was scoring outside Shai, getting Markkanen would solved that and putting J-Will on 3 would make them much bigger. Then you can get whatever defensive big for those 15 minutes.

I would be pretty pleased if OKC is done for this year. They're good but not unbeatable.
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Post#1094 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:25 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Giving 30 mio per year for 8/8 player is kinda crazy. And will he be just backup for Chet or Chet will play on 4? With their assets they should go after Markkanen.

Chet was +14 on/off and only +2 on court in the PO, the team fell apart w/o him on the floor, I would've done the same, they can pay the 30M, 2 of their big 3 are on rookie contracts, pay 30M for 25MPG RS guy that'll carry the load for 15MPG in the PO.


Hartenstein is ok, but he doesn't make them that much better that Markkanen would.

OKC biggest problem was scoring outside Shai, getting Markkanen would solved that and putting J-Will on 3 would make them much bigger. Then you can get whatever defensive big for those 15 minutes.


It's a bit complicated, Markannen is very underpaid, he can't be extended at max salary, because extension is based on current salary, and his salary is low, to be paid fairly he must become free agent next year, unless very special and specific situation occurs:
If the team that has the player has also cap space, they can do renegotiate, increase his salary and extend (what Sacramento did last year with Sabonis, that's why they dumped Holmes), this way Markennen can be paid max salary this year, and extended at max salary.
Because of this situation, Markannen has told everyone, I don't want to be traded, he'd have to play at low salary this year, and wait till next year to get paid (if he gets injured, or plays bad, he can lose his max contract).
I think UTA will do renegotiate and extend, and trade him at the deadline (low probability) or next year, in which case Presti need salary to match, guess what he has now with this contract? Very high and short term salary to match...
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Post#1095 » by Bob8 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:32 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Chet was +14 on/off and only +2 on court in the PO, the team fell apart w/o him on the floor, I would've done the same, they can pay the 30M, 2 of their big 3 are on rookie contracts, pay 30M for 25MPG RS guy that'll carry the load for 15MPG in the PO.


Hartenstein is ok, but he doesn't make them that much better that Markkanen would.

OKC biggest problem was scoring outside Shai, getting Markkanen would solved that and putting J-Will on 3 would make them much bigger. Then you can get whatever defensive big for those 15 minutes.


It's a bit complicated, Markannen is very underpaid, he can't be extended at max salary, because extension is based on current salary, and his salary is low, to be paid fairly he must become free agent next year, unless very special and specific situation occurs:
If the team that has the player has also cap space, they can do renegotiate, increase his salary and extend (what Sacramento did last year with Sabonis, that's why they dumped Holmes), this way Markennen can be paid max salary this year, and extended at max salary.
Because of this situation, Markannen has told everyone, I don't want to be traded, he'd have to play at low salary this year, and wait till next year to get paid (if he gets injured, or plays bad, he can lose his max contract).
I think UTA will do renegotiate and extend, and trade him at the deadline (low probability) or next year, in which case Presti need salary to match, guess what he has now with this contract? Very high and short term salary to match...


If someone like Spurs doesn't get him before. ;)
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Post#1096 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:37 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Hartenstein is ok, but he doesn't make them that much better that Markkanen would.

OKC biggest problem was scoring outside Shai, getting Markkanen would solved that and putting J-Will on 3 would make them much bigger. Then you can get whatever defensive big for those 15 minutes.


It's a bit complicated, Markannen is very underpaid, he can't be extended at max salary, because extension is based on current salary, and his salary is low, to be paid fairly he must become free agent next year, unless very special and specific situation occurs:
If the team that has the player has also cap space, they can do renegotiate, increase his salary and extend (what Sacramento did last year with Sabonis, that's why they dumped Holmes), this way Markennen can be paid max salary this year, and extended at max salary.
Because of this situation, Markannen has told everyone, I don't want to be traded, he'd have to play at low salary this year, and wait till next year to get paid (if he gets injured, or plays bad, he can lose his max contract).
I think UTA will do renegotiate and extend, and trade him at the deadline (low probability) or next year, in which case Presti need salary to match, guess what he has now with this contract? Very high and short term salary to match...


If someone like Spurs doesn't get him before. ;)

It's a risk to piss him off...
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Post#1097 » by ACMFFL » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:41 pm

I feel like the longer Klay saga goes on, the more I think he's gonna end up in Cali. Ihmo he's giving time to the Fakers to move some salaries and match Mavs offer.

But even then I still trust Nico, I mean even last night he didnt waste time once he found out DJJ would have not come back and signed immediately the best available replacement in Naj
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Post#1098 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:47 pm

ACMFFL wrote:I feel like the longer Klay saga goes on, the more I think he's gonna end up in Cali. Ihmo he's giving time to the Fakers to move some salaries and match Mavs offer.

But even then I still trust Nico, I mean even last night he didnt waste time once he found out DJJ would have not come back and signed immediately the best available replacement in Naj



Yeah, I have a feeling he's going to La La Land...Just to much connection...kind of like Brunson with NY
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Post#1099 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:51 pm

LAL would offer DLo, Mavs would offer Green, Mavs offer makes much more sense to GSW than LAL...
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Post#1100 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:57 pm

Mavrelous wrote:LAL would offer DLo, Mavs would offer Green, Mavs offer makes much more sense to GSW than LAL...


Not sure about that...DLo is an expiring,they can trade him during the season with picks for someone better...as for Green,not sure he's an upgrade over Moody

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