OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Patches Perry]

Really good offseason. Hartenstein is the piece we needed now, but I like Presti having groups of players on different timelines. Topic is a seed planted for a couple years from now, potentially as Caruso leaves at the end of his deal.

I hope Presti can keep accumulating FRPs for down the road because they are the best way to infuse supporting players into the rotation at a cheap cost. Maybe they can get a FRP for Dieng or Jwill.

[bbms]

if everything goes right hartenstein's last year in his deal might be worth some frp

[bbms]

Read on Twitter

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let's see if EPM gives you a title

that got me laughs but top of epm is pretty much end game of post season

let's see if we don't get exploited by coaching chops next time

[Clav]

I do like the Hartenstein signing overall. We needed a reliable post player to soak up minutes and we never know if untimely injuries hit so he's a capable C to play as evidence by holding up the Knicks at the C for basically 3 tough rounds in the East playoffs.

Worrying things for me are how we adjust to a more conventional non-shooting C lineup because it will affect the gravity we play at. Still looking for a consolidation trade (2-for-1) as KFF mentioned with Kenrich and Dieng to improve the PF spot specifically.

Okongwu is now my target from Atlanta, though I'm warm-cold on him also. I like his play, defensively he is pretty good, he has post moves, but he isn't a 3-pt shooter by any means.

[Bremzi]

Like the Hartenstein signing. I don’t think the spacing will be bad. Giddey wasnt much of a 3pt threat, he could do his floater inside and Hartenstein has a floater as well. But more than that, Hartenstein is a really mobile center and he plays great vs strong big men. I think he did as best as anyone in the league vs Embiid for instance. On the offensive side, he’s also really big and can provide picks very similar to what Steven Adams did. There was no way but to pay the maximum under cap space to steal him from Knicks who could offer a 4-5 year contract. OKC just cant offer such a long contract so it had to be frontloaded with high salary and smaller number of years.

Out of all the Center options on the market, I like him the most, so it’s good in my view.

[Dadouv47]

So far so good: Denver lost KCP, Clippers lost PG13, Dallas lost DJJ but added Klay and Minny got a rookie. We are by a decent margin the team that improved the most on paper (it could change a lot in the upcoming days but the elite teams in the West don't have much to spend)

[Xatticus]

I do like the Hartenstein signing overall. We needed a reliable post player to soak up minutes and we never know if untimely injuries hit so he's a capable C to play as evidence by holding up the Knicks at the C for basically 3 tough rounds in the East playoffs.

Worrying things for me are how we adjust to a more conventional non-shooting C lineup because it will affect the gravity we play at. Still looking for a consolidation trade (2-for-1) as KFF mentioned with Kenrich and Dieng to improve the PF spot specifically.

Okongwu is now my target from Atlanta, though I'm warm-cold on him also. I like his play, defensively he is pretty good, he has post moves, but he isn't a 3-pt shooter by any means.

The regular season will be for sorting these things out. I see it more as Hartenstein providing us with some new wrinkles that teams will have to deal with. Dallas really locked us up. I look forward to seeing SGA, Jalen, and Cason develop their PnR games. I also don't see fit issues with Chet due to Chet's shooting. At the defensive end, it will free up Chet as a help defender. We tried to keep him off of bigs when possible to allow him to help protect the rim, but some matchups just didn't permit it. That won't really be an issue now.

[Kizz Fastfists]

So far so good: Denver lost KCP, Clippers lost PG13, Dallas lost DJJ but added Klay and Minny got a rookie. We are by a decent margin the team that improved the most on paper (it could change a lot in the upcoming days but the elite teams in the West don't have much to spend)

Dallas upgraded from DJJ to Naji Marshall. Dallas upgraded from THJ/Green to Klay. At a minimum they maintained their position if not getting further ahead of OKC.

If OKC tries to play 5-man out next year the offense will take a step back. If they go with Hartenstein at center and go to a more conventional offense so he doesn’t become ignored worse than Giddey on offense then there will be a huge adjustment for everyone else as they learn a new playbook that may or may not be as effective. OKC is still missing another big man either way as they need another traditional center to backup Hartenstein to f he is the new starting 5 with a new playbook or a stretch 4 if Hartenstein is just replacing Biyombo as the break glass in case of emergency center with Chet remaining the center.

[Zagor]

It's crazy to have a such deep roster and still Presti kept all picks for next year. Insane.

I'm already studying players for next year draft.

[Dadouv47]

It's crazy to have a such deep roster and still Presti kept all picks for next year. Insane.

I'm already studying players for next year draft.

only exciting one is the LAC swap.

I'm afraid the Jazz pick will never convey

[Clav]

It's crazy to have a such deep roster and still Presti kept all picks for next year. Insane.

I'm already studying players for next year draft.

only exciting one is the LAC swap.

I'm afraid the Jazz pick will never convey

It was really close this year thanks to ATL moving up with ping-pong ball luck... Utah might be even worse this upcoming season, so I'm not hopeful either.

[Kizz Fastfists]

It's crazy to have a such deep roster and still Presti kept all picks for next year. Insane.

I'm already studying players for next year draft.

Caruso is the only pending FA. Will Presti let him walk next year for a rookie or is Presti still trying to put a contender together for this season? If Presti doesn’t do something with those picks soon they’ll be worthless. What good is four picks when you only have one roster spot? Every other GM knows that as well and hopes Presti holds on to them and is forced to use them without the ability to sign the player or give them away for 2nd round picks in the future.

[Clav]

Goga Bitadze is still available.

[Woerzboerg]

So Kizz wanted Presti to get pieces for being a contender and although he did it he is still complaining

[Bremzi]

So Kizz wanted Presti to get pieces for being a contender and although he did it he is still complaining

He might complain even if OKC wins the chip. I’m not sure what would make him happy. OKC got a starting quality center and a big guard, both of whom are great defenders and gritty. OKC got good rookies and next year’s draft is supposedly strong too. Having too many picks or players to fill out a team is a luxury to have. Especially under the more rigid CBA. Eventually a chance to further improve the roster will appear.

Maybe Presti would have to get Olynyk or Lauri/Collins and nothing else will make Kizz happy.

[RingoKid]

Hartenstein has those intangibles Presti likes and native Oklahomans adore.

It'll be nice to see a big banger getting down and dirty in the C spot again.

OKC muscling up on D with recent additions is a good look. So is being non dreaded and tattoo less.

Jeez theres some ugly ink on a lot of players that i think they'll regret in later life.

[Big nick]

So Kizz wanted Presti to get pieces for being a contender and although he did it he is still complaining

No chit!

[Kizz Fastfists]

So Kizz wanted Presti to get pieces for being a contender and although he did it he is still complaining

Presti just admitted some random idiot on the internet named Kizz was smarter than him a year ago when he said to get a real center and play Chet at PF. Every Thunder fan is pissed that Presti is doing what a random internet idiot with no credibility said OKC should have done a year ago. Presti wasted a year of OKC’s window and everyone as smart as that internet troll Kizz knew it. So why did Presti waste a year refusing to get a center and going to a traditional lineup and what will be a more conventional offense when even that idiot Kizz knew it needed to happen? Everyone should hate Kizz for not just being a Presti fanboy and actually caring about results.

[Clav]

Goga Bitadze is still available.

Goga Bitadze is no longer available - signed 3/25M with Orlando

[Kizz Fastfists]

OKC muscling up on D with recent additions is a good look. So is being non dreaded and tattoo less.

WTF do dreads and ink have to do with anything you racist piece of garbage?!?!?!