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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#161 » by dkb964 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:37 pm

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Or his contract will expire at the end of next season and we will be wondering why we opted into the team option in the first place.


All the while, talking about a potential trade for around 8 months

It appears like Bobby and Masai are bluffing about the interest Brown had at the deadline. I don't think a single team gave them a call about him. 22M is a lot harder to take on than a McDaniels contract. The only way a team consider this is if we do a swap for someone getting 30M a year like LaVine, but the Bulls are rebuilding and likely won't want to give up any picks.


Lavine makes 43/46/49 over the next 3 seasons. The Bulls will need to add a pick or multiple picks for a team to take him on. The worst contract in the league imo.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#162 » by SpezNc » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:39 pm

Thaddy wrote:
The Duke wrote:
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Or his contract will expire at the end of next season and we will be wondering why we opted into the team option in the first place.


All the while, talking about a potential trade for around 8 months

It appears like Bobby and Masai are bluffing about the interest Brown had at the deadline. I don't think a single team gave them a call about him. 22M is a lot harder to take on than a McDaniels contract. The only way a team consider this is if we do a swap for someone getting 30M a year like LaVine, but the Bulls are rebuilding and likely won't want to give up any picks.


Agree . Maybe the puzzle will become clear and I will eat my word but picking up his option is so far a bad move
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#163 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:40 pm

Is Milwaukee in the 2nd apron? If they are then they can only make 1 for 1 trades with a dollar for dollar match. So if they do move Lopez, Brown has to be an option b/c they have the same salary
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#164 » by Thaddy » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:46 pm

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Thaddy wrote:
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All the while, talking about a potential trade for around 8 months

It appears like Bobby and Masai are bluffing about the interest Brown had at the deadline. I don't think a single team gave them a call about him. 22M is a lot harder to take on than a McDaniels contract. The only way a team consider this is if we do a swap for someone getting 30M a year like LaVine, but the Bulls are rebuilding and likely won't want to give up any picks.


Agree . Maybe the puzzle will become clear and I will eat my word but picking up his option is so far a bad move

Fischer - "All these wings - Hield, Martin, etc.. that want the full MLE... hope from all these guys from Mavs to LAL/LAC... the homes are starting to dissolve on the board...possibility he comes back as a pure cap play.. potentially being an overpay... 10M would be something that could be used down the road."



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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#165 » by ArthurVandelay » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:49 pm

Absolutely hilarious reading people crap on Masai for not trading Bruce yet

Just 96 hours ago he went all Houdini and turned JALEN MCDANIELS into 4 assets

Patience people, patience

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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#166 » by Landomar » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:50 pm

I've been all over the place with regards to Bruce Brown.

My initial thinking was that we would pick up Brown's option, have him play for us all year, and lose him as a free agent next summer. (In this scenario, Masai and Bobby wanted to have a big expiring contract on the books in case a trade comes up, but nothing ends up happening)

Then I started thinking that we would just decline his option and sign somebody else with the MLE (such as Melton).

Now that we've picked up his option, I'm back to what I was originally thinking, and expect to see Bruce Brown on the team playing an important role for us next season. Keep in mind, Brown is a capable NBA rotation player, and is useful to have around. This probably means that he'll be traded tomorrow.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#167 » by C_Money » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:50 pm

I think he’ll be here to start the season. Same with Boucher.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#168 » by Tripod » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:16 pm

The Raps would have talked to agents to see who might come to Toronto and the cost. And it likely wasn't pretty. So they pick up the option on Brown to keep the cap hit to see if a trade works it's way to happening that makes sense.

Bobby even talked about a trade in the next few weeks on draft day. Weeks, not days.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#169 » by deeps6x » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:10 pm

Thaddy wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Thaddy wrote:It appears like Bobby and Masai are bluffing about the interest Brown had at the deadline. I don't think a single team gave them a call about him. 22M is a lot harder to take on than a McDaniels contract. The only way a team consider this is if we do a swap for someone getting 30M a year like LaVine, but the Bulls are rebuilding and likely won't want to give up any picks.


Agree . Maybe the puzzle will become clear and I will eat my word but picking up his option is so far a bad move

Fischer - "All these wings - Hield, Martin, etc.. that want the full MLE... hope from all these guys from Mavs to LAL/LAC... the homes are starting to dissolve on the board...possibility he comes back as a pure cap play.. potentially being an overpay... 10M would be something that could be used down the road."



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All these wings that want the full MLE (and are twice as good as Brown and willing to settle for half of what WE decided to pay him this season)... Fk me, Masai better have a damn good plan here.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#170 » by djsunyc » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:13 pm

deeps6x wrote:
Thaddy wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Agree . Maybe the puzzle will become clear and I will eat my word but picking up his option is so far a bad move

Fischer - "All these wings - Hield, Martin, etc.. that want the full MLE... hope from all these guys from Mavs to LAL/LAC... the homes are starting to dissolve on the board...possibility he comes back as a pure cap play.. potentially being an overpay... 10M would be something that could be used down the road."



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All these wings that want the full MLE (and are twice as good as Brown and willing to settle for half of what WE decided to pay him this season)... Fk me, Masai better have a damn good plan here.


it's not that hard to figure out - opting in doesn't change our plans and gives us an option if something presents itself later this summer or at the trade deadline. if nothing does, no harm, no foul.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#171 » by SpezNc » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:21 am

djsunyc wrote:
deeps6x wrote:
Thaddy wrote:Fischer - "All these wings - Hield, Martin, etc.. that want the full MLE... hope from all these guys from Mavs to LAL/LAC... the homes are starting to dissolve on the board...possibility he comes back as a pure cap play.. potentially being an overpay... 10M would be something that could be used down the road."



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All these wings that want the full MLE (and are twice as good as Brown and willing to settle for half of what WE decided to pay him this season)... Fk me, Masai better have a damn good plan here.


it's not that hard to figure out - opting in doesn't change our plans and gives us an option if something presents itself later this summer or at the trade deadline. if nothing does, no harm, no foul.


I think I would have the cap space on a UFA player. That player could be equal if not better than any player we could get from Brown. Obviously I can be wrong and maybe a good deal will present itself .

I am not THAT critical in the sense that I can see why they pick up the option and obviously the organization knows better than me. I don’t want to pretend I know better than them .

But on quick glance I still think the easier and cleaner way would have been to let Brown go. You cut your losses and you move on.

When if Brown is traded , if the deal is decent (I don’t mind if not great) I will be the first one please.

For know I am penciling Brown in our starting lineup although I expect it could be a rotation with Brown, Gradey , Ochai.

But I don’t think Gradey is ready for full time starter .
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#172 » by djsunyc » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:27 am

SpezNc wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
deeps6x wrote:
All these wings that want the full MLE (and are twice as good as Brown and willing to settle for half of what WE decided to pay him this season)... Fk me, Masai better have a damn good plan here.


it's not that hard to figure out - opting in doesn't change our plans and gives us an option if something presents itself later this summer or at the trade deadline. if nothing does, no harm, no foul.


I think I would have the cap space on a UFA player. That player could be equal if not better than any player we could get from Brown. Obviously I can be wrong and maybe a good deal will present itself .

I am not THAT critical in the sense that I can see why they pick up the option and obviously the organization knows better than me. I don’t want to pretend I know better than them .

But on quick glance I still think the easier and cleaner way would have been to let Brown go. You cut your losses and you move on.

When if Brown is traded , if the deal is decent (I don’t mind if not great) I will be the first one please.

For know I am penciling Brown in our starting lineup although I expect it could be a rotation with Brown, Gradey , Ochai.

But I don’t think Gradey is ready for full time starter .


i think FO did due diligence about free agents. most deals signed this summer were 3 year deals and i don't think we are looking to add any salary for the 26/27 season right now.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#173 » by tecumseh18 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:44 am

I have little to no respect for the NHL and its CBA, but things sure would be easier if a team trading an overpaid player was allowed to take back salary. MLB allows teams to do so, as well. You don't want such players getting stuck in a rebuilding situation.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#174 » by DG88 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:49 am

Things need to settle down first in Free Agency before trades happen. I suspect we'd see a trade around Summer League when all the FO's are together under one roof.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#175 » by SpezNc » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:50 am

djsunyc wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
it's not that hard to figure out - opting in doesn't change our plans and gives us an option if something presents itself later this summer or at the trade deadline. if nothing does, no harm, no foul.


I think I would have the cap space on a UFA player. That player could be equal if not better than any player we could get from Brown. Obviously I can be wrong and maybe a good deal will present itself .

I am not THAT critical in the sense that I can see why they pick up the option and obviously the organization knows better than me. I don’t want to pretend I know better than them .

But on quick glance I still think the easier and cleaner way would have been to let Brown go. You cut your losses and you move on.

When if Brown is traded , if the deal is decent (I don’t mind if not great) I will be the first one please.

For know I am penciling Brown in our starting lineup although I expect it could be a rotation with Brown, Gradey , Ochai.

But I don’t think Gradey is ready for full time starter .


i think FO did due diligence about free agents. most deals signed this summer were 3 year deals and i don't think we are looking to add any salary for the 26/27 season right now.


That is fair . That is said I wonder what we could get for Brown if the player we get in return is 2 year and below considering that Brown at 23M is overpaid !

To have value in exchange of Brown we need to acquire a worse contract .

Milwaukee was named by Fischer . I wonder what kind of deal we could get.

Portis and Connaugton both have a team option. The salaries would match . But I don’t see a point of that trade . MIL don’t have much draft capital to offer .

Do someone see an avenue with MIL that I don’t see ?
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Post#176 » by WeThe2019Champs » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:20 am

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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#177 » by Flush » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:33 am

I know Bruce Brown was pretty disappointing esp. considering he was part of the Spicy P trade; but I think it would be to both the team and BB's benefit if he was able to contribute to our team this season and show the rest of the league that he's a positive contributor that a contender would want to add.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#178 » by SharoneWright » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:34 am

People say, “there’s no such thing as a bad 1-year deal”. Hopefully other teams around the league feel the same way.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#179 » by SpezNc » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:57 am

For Bruce Brown there is three type of trades I could see:

1) Trade for a player with term with similar AAV (Maybe SAC with Barnes or Atlanta with Hunter)
2) Trade for a player / duos of player that exceed 23M (I have yet to see a fit)
3) Trade to acquire a player (Lets say Bruce + IND 2026 for Cam Johnson). A package Bruce + Boucher would be ideal but I don’t see any trade option to bring in that much salary except Ben Simmons hahaha

I am trying to be creative but with all the rules, it’s not easy to fin a trade.

Do we have ideas ? Which team may want to shed some salaries?

I am brainstorming but so far I have yet to see something that make sense for both club.
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Re: Raptors pick up Bruce Brown's option 

Post#180 » by PoundTown » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:04 am

DG88 wrote:Things need to settle down first in Free Agency before trades happen. I suspect we'd see a trade around Summer League when all the FO's are together under one roof.


Why would teams give up assets for a guy before seeing if they can sign anyone in the open market without giving up assets.

And if your the raps and you’re getting basically deals around taking similar salary back and just a mid to late 2nd then maybe you know you can get that at deadline and you wait. But saying that, he wasn’t that great of a fit on this roster and either be taking up minutes from our younger players or if he doesn’t play well he just tanks his value. Anyways, I think you want to see if you can find a high second and an expiring from someone and call it a day.

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