2024-25 Regular Season

[JonFromVA]

39, but they mean as an expiring add on to another player. No one is starting him in the playoffs, but I'm not making that trade without Vassell coming back, and if Atkinson manages to get more synergy out of Mitchell and Garland, I'm not making it at all.

Yeah, from the presser, Kenny seems sold on the core 4 and that is why Koby was sold on him.

I'm hopeful. If you think JB struggled in certain areas and another coach could get more offensively out of that core, and I do, then it makes sense to let him try after you let JB go. If you're just going to break up the core, no matter what, then why let JB go?

JBB just doesn't really believe in the spread floor concept. He's a coaching dinosaur stuck on a concept which never went anywhere (grit & grind).

[KGDirkTD_Fan]

Kenny said a lot of good stuff in the presser.

Quicker pace, more space, going 5 out. Need to have the ball in Mobley's hands more. He used Dray and Looney in Golden State who neither are really shooters so he thinks Allen and Mobley can work. He sees lots of growth for Mobley and Mitchell. He loves Garland's game and can grow. Believes in developing the bench, playing a lot of guys.

He said all the right things.

I didn't realize he is currently help coach team France.

Going 5 out is like the best news I've heard all week on the Cavs lol

[JujitsuFlip]

Kenny said a lot of good stuff in the presser.

Quicker pace, more space, going 5 out. Need to have the ball in Mobley's hands more. He used Dray and Looney in Golden State who neither are really shooters so he thinks Allen and Mobley can work. He sees lots of growth for Mobley and Mitchell. He loves Garland's game and can grow. Believes in developing the bench, playing a lot of guys.

He said all the right things.

I didn't realize he is currently help coach team France.

Going 5 out is like the best news I've heard all week on the Cavs lol

He has a more modern perspective on NBA offense, for sure. He did say he wants to keep the slim towers sharing floor time, to retain the defensive identity.

Reading between the lines, i believe he thinks Mobley is capable of playing that Draymond role. The tough thing is Garland and Mitchell are not the pure shooters that Klay and Steph are. They're still good but we'll see what happens, he jas several months to work on an offensive gameplan prior to camp.

[KGDirkTD_Fan]

Kenny said a lot of good stuff in the presser.

Quicker pace, more space, going 5 out. Need to have the ball in Mobley's hands more. He used Dray and Looney in Golden State who neither are really shooters so he thinks Allen and Mobley can work. He sees lots of growth for Mobley and Mitchell. He loves Garland's game and can grow. Believes in developing the bench, playing a lot of guys.

He said all the right things.

I didn't realize he is currently help coach team France.

Going 5 out is like the best news I've heard all week on the Cavs lol

He has a more modern perspective on NBA offense, for sure. He did say he wants to keep the slim towers sharing floor time, to retain the defensive identity.

Reading between the lines, i believe he thinks Mobley is capable of playing that Draymond role. The tough thing is Garland and Mitchell are not the pure shooters that Klay and Steph are. They're still good but we'll see what happens, he jas several months to work on an offensive gameplan prior to camp.

I agree we kind of saw this in the post season with Mobley at the 5. His decision making is really good for a center. Again with two centers I wish him luck figuring out the gameplan here I don't know what this looks like that isn't Mobley taking more volume 3s. I am optimistic though.

[JonFromVA]

Kenny said a lot of good stuff in the presser.

Quicker pace, more space, going 5 out. Need to have the ball in Mobley's hands more. He used Dray and Looney in Golden State who neither are really shooters so he thinks Allen and Mobley can work. He sees lots of growth for Mobley and Mitchell. He loves Garland's game and can grow. Believes in developing the bench, playing a lot of guys.

He said all the right things.

I didn't realize he is currently help coach team France.

Going 5 out is like the best news I've heard all week on the Cavs lol

He has a more modern perspective on NBA offense, for sure. He did say he wants to keep the slim towers sharing floor time, to retain the defensive identity.

Reading between the lines, i believe he thinks Mobley is capable of playing that Draymond role. The tough thing is Garland and Mitchell are not the pure shooters that Klay and Steph are. They're still good but we'll see what happens, he jas several months to work on an offensive gameplan prior to camp.

Garland and Mitchell are excellent shooters *if* anyone can keep them healthy and their legs fresh. Kerr was never one to pile on the minutes.

[JujitsuFlip]

39, but they mean as an expiring add on to another player. No one is starting him in the playoffs, but I'm not making that trade without Vassell coming back, and if Atkinson manages to get more synergy out of Mitchell and Garland, I'm not making it at all.

Yeah, from the presser, Kenny seems sold on the core 4 and that is why Koby was sold on him.

I'm hopeful. If you think JB struggled in certain areas and another coach could get more offensively out of that core, and I do, then it makes sense to let him try after you let JB go. If you're just going to break up the core, no matter what, then why let JB go?

Kenny is the exact opposite of jb, philosophy wise, in almost every category.

Pace and space, 5 out, deep rotations, trust the bench, build the bench, develop players, earn his players trust.

When Kenny said the year the Nets made the playoffs nobody played more than 30 minutes, i was thinking boom, shots fired at jb and his awful 8 man rotation starting in October lol

Kenny was like yeah, that is how you find talent, is by playing guys. He's like that is how guys are ready for the playoffs, because you have trusted them to play all season.

[JujitsuFlip]

Going 5 out is like the best news I've heard all week on the Cavs lol

He has a more modern perspective on NBA offense, for sure. He did say he wants to keep the slim towers sharing floor time, to retain the defensive identity.

Reading between the lines, i believe he thinks Mobley is capable of playing that Draymond role. The tough thing is Garland and Mitchell are not the pure shooters that Klay and Steph are. They're still good but we'll see what happens, he jas several months to work on an offensive gameplan prior to camp.

Garland and Mitchell are excellent shooters *if* anyone can keep them healthy and their legs fresh. Kerr was never one to pile on the minutes.

Kenny mentioned that, that him and Kerr were very cognizant to play a deep bench, especially early in the season.

[ijspeelman]

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Odd this is all we have on the Mitchell negotiations after their meeting in LA. In general, I like that Mitchell's camp is quiet and it seems the Cavs FO isn't leaking anything, but as a fan the question is "what is the hold up?"

We will see

[JujitsuFlip]

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Odd this is all we have on the Mitchell negotiations after their meeting in LA. In general, I like that Mitchell's camp is quiet and it seems the Cavs FO isn't leaking anything, but as a fan the question is "what is the hold up?"

We will see

Yeah, when i heard him say that at the end of the presser, i just rolled my eyes.

Like 2nd summer in a row guy refuses to extend yet he's "all about Cleveland". Like shut up Koby and do your job, trade the guy. If he wanted to be here, the extension would be done, like every other team has did with their players.

[JonFromVA]

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Odd this is all we have on the Mitchell negotiations after their meeting in LA. In general, I like that Mitchell's camp is quiet and it seems the Cavs FO isn't leaking anything, but as a fan the question is "what is the hold up?"

We will see

Yeah, when i heard him say that at the end of the presser, i just rolled my eyes.

Like 2nd summer in a row guy refuses to extend yet he's "all about Cleveland". Like shut up Koby and do your job, trade the guy. If he wanted to be here, the extension would be done, like every other team has did with their players.

He has leverage, presumably there's something he wants to see happen, so stay tuned.

Of course other GM's can read the tea leaves too.

I suppose there's a chance he's just trying to be cute about the timing.

[JujitsuFlip]

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Odd this is all we have on the Mitchell negotiations after their meeting in LA. In general, I like that Mitchell's camp is quiet and it seems the Cavs FO isn't leaking anything, but as a fan the question is "what is the hold up?"

We will see

Yeah, when i heard him say that at the end of the presser, i just rolled my eyes.

Like 2nd summer in a row guy refuses to extend yet he's "all about Cleveland". Like shut up Koby and do your job, trade the guy. If he wanted to be here, the extension would be done, like every other team has did with their players.

He has leverage, presumably there's something he wants to see happen, so stay tuned.

Of course other GM's can read the tea leaves too.

I suppose there's a chance he's just trying to be cute about the timing.

If he is wanting to go into the season as an expiring, then he can get real lol

We traded 6 first rounders for this guy, hired the coach he wanted, brought his buddy Niang here. Like idk what else the guy could possibly want.

[KuruptedCav]

Yeah, when i heard him say that at the end of the presser, i just rolled my eyes.

Like 2nd summer in a row guy refuses to extend yet he's "all about Cleveland". Like shut up Koby and do your job, trade the guy. If he wanted to be here, the extension would be done, like every other team has did with their players.

He has leverage, presumably there's something he wants to see happen, so stay tuned.

Of course other GM's can read the tea leaves too.

I suppose there's a chance he's just trying to be cute about the timing.

If he is wanting to go into the season as an expiring, then he can get real lol

We traded 6 first rounders for this guy, hired the coach he wanted, brought his buddy Niang here. Like idk what else the guy could possibly want.

3+1 with a NTC & Damion Lee brought in for a Cardinals reunion.


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[JujitsuFlip]

He has leverage, presumably there's something he wants to see happen, so stay tuned.

Of course other GM's can read the tea leaves too.

I suppose there's a chance he's just trying to be cute about the timing.

If he is wanting to go into the season as an expiring, then he can get real lol

We traded 6 first rounders for this guy, hired the coach he wanted, brought his buddy Niang here. Like idk what else the guy could possibly want.

3+1 with a NTC & Damion Lee brought in for a Cardinals reunion.


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Outside of the NTC, do it.

There's really no logical explanation why he hasn't extended, outside of him potetinally not actually going to extend. Which if that is the fact, fine but let's go ahead and trade him, move passed the "Mitchell era". Guy is holding the Cavs hostage like he's LeBron, i don't get it.

[toooskies]

It's more surprising to me, honestly, that Mobley hasn't extended. That should also have been a slam dunk unless we are considering trading him or are low-balling him.

[jbk1234]

It's more surprising to me, honestly, that Mobley hasn't extended. That should also have been a slam dunk unless we are considering trading him or are low-balling him.

They might want to do what the Sixers did with Maxey and use the cap hold next summer. He might want to make sure his brother still has a job.

[KuruptedCav]

It's more surprising to me, honestly, that Mobley hasn't extended. That should also have been a slam dunk unless we are considering trading him or are low-balling him.

They might want to do what the Sixers did with Maxey and use the cap hold next summer. He might want to make sure his brother still has a job.

Mobley getting a 5yr max?


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[KGDirkTD_Fan]

Read on Twitter

Odd this is all we have on the Mitchell negotiations after their meeting in LA. In general, I like that Mitchell's camp is quiet and it seems the Cavs FO isn't leaking anything, but as a fan the question is "what is the hold up?"

We will see

Yeah, when i heard him say that at the end of the presser, i just rolled my eyes.

Like 2nd summer in a row guy refuses to extend yet he's "all about Cleveland". Like shut up Koby and do your job, trade the guy. If he wanted to be here, the extension would be done, like every other team has did with their players.

This guy Altman truly thinks everything will fix itself and is adverse to any big decision making. My speculative guess is there's a holdup on some other negotiations and optionality they want to pursue before bringing the offer sheet but it's a bit concerning....so much effort is put in maintaining the optics around the Mitchell extension like come on.

[jbk1234]

Read on Twitter

Odd this is all we have on the Mitchell negotiations after their meeting in LA. In general, I like that Mitchell's camp is quiet and it seems the Cavs FO isn't leaking anything, but as a fan the question is "what is the hold up?"

We will see

Yeah, when i heard him say that at the end of the presser, i just rolled my eyes.

Like 2nd summer in a row guy refuses to extend yet he's "all about Cleveland". Like shut up Koby and do your job, trade the guy. If he wanted to be here, the extension would be done, like every other team has did with their players.

This guy Altman truly thinks everything will fix itself and is adverse to any big decision making. My speculative guess is there's a holdup on some other negotiations and optionality they want to pursue before bringing the offer sheet but it's a bit concerning....so much effort is put in maintaining the optics around the Mitchell extension like come on.

Mitchell will extend, or not. The Cavs have done what was asked and then some. It's up to Mitchell now.

[JujitsuFlip]

Yeah, when i heard him say that at the end of the presser, i just rolled my eyes.

Like 2nd summer in a row guy refuses to extend yet he's "all about Cleveland". Like shut up Koby and do your job, trade the guy. If he wanted to be here, the extension would be done, like every other team has did with their players.

This guy Altman truly thinks everything will fix itself and is adverse to any big decision making. My speculative guess is there's a holdup on some other negotiations and optionality they want to pursue before bringing the offer sheet but it's a bit concerning....so much effort is put in maintaining the optics around the Mitchell extension like come on.

Mitchell will extend, or not. The Cavs have done what was asked and then some. It's up to Mitchell now.

I just wonder how long they will wait on his decision.

[gflem]

All these moves happening and we are just sitting on the sidelines. Someone make me feel better because if we run it back with the same group we are getting smoked in the first round

Our players are still young, so that's a silver lining lol

But yes, Knicks and 76ers have made huge improvements this summer.

Celtics didn't need to do much, Bucks still right there.

We'll see what else the Magic and Pacers do.

As is, Cavs sitting probably at 5th or 6th.

Koby really does need to be fired, it's not 2017 anymore, time for some fresh eyes on this roster construction.

If they are really running it back then I agree. I think this roster has topped out at a second round exit. To me, Garland has to be moved, I know most here won't agree saying that moving him would be selling low, but he is paid like he's Chris Paul but he plays like Jeff Teague. I understand if Mitchell doesn't extend then he has to be moved but he is better now than Garland will ever be imo.
Just sitting on the sidelines while other contenders in the East are improving really bothers me, and the architect of this roster is also responsible for the ongoing paralysis in terms of improving this roster. It looks to me like Kobe is just trying to hang on to his job for one more season, but this Mitchell extension delay may be the end of Kobe's time here.