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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#61 » by guest81 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:48 pm

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shrink wrote:Well, nothing is certain, but the franchise must look more attractive now, right?


From an investment view, wolves are more expensive then they were 3 years ago but they still need a new stadium

I suppose I should also mention that when the last two owners died in Portland and New Orleans, the wives have kept the teams.


It's been well known for years that the Taylor family has no interest in running the wolves. Hence why glen is selling in the first place
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Post#62 » by shrink » Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:09 pm

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From an investment view, wolves are more expensive then they were 3 years ago but they still need a new stadium

I suppose I should also mention that when the last two owners died in Portland and New Orleans, the wives have kept the teams.

It's been well known for years that the Taylor family has no interest in running the wolves. Hence why glen is selling in the first place

Yes that’s true. But when Paul Allen and Tom Benson died (both in 2018), there was a lot of questions about the future of those ball clubs. They were both the toys of the husbands, and when the wives inherited everything, many expected a sale of the clubs. Neither one was successful financially, and the Pelicans are often considered the worst market in the NBA. Those wives didn’t even go to all the games. Surprisingly, six years later, those teams are still in their wives hands. They aren’t particularly active owners (I don’t think owners should be, let the basketball people do their job), but they do all the owner functions and attend the NBA owners meetings just like their late husbands.

I’m not saying that Becky Taylor is going to hold onto the team or sell too, which is no different than her husband. I wanted to make sure people were aware of similar, but not identical, situations in the past. People shouldn’t believe the death of an owner will lead to the wife immediately dumping the team, or it ending up with owners who will take it to a better market. It’s not the movie, Major League.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#63 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:27 pm

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shrink wrote:I suppose I should also mention that when the last two owners died in Portland and New Orleans, the wives have kept the teams.

It's been well known for years that the Taylor family has no interest in running the wolves. Hence why glen is selling in the first place

Yes that’s true. But when Paul Allen and Tom Benson died (both in 2018), there was a lot of questions about the future of those ball clubs. They were both the toys of the husbands, and when the wives inherited everything, many expected a sale of the clubs. Neither one was successful financially, and the Pelicans are often considered the worst market in the NBA. Those wives didn’t even go to all the games. Surprisingly, six years later, those teams are still in their wives hands. They aren’t particularly active owners (I don’t think owners should be, let the basketball people do their job), but they do all the owner functions and attend the NBA owners meetings just like their late husbands.

I’m not saying that Becky Taylor is going to hold onto the team or sell too, which is no different than her husband. I wanted to make sure people were aware of similar, but not identical, situations in the past. People shouldn’t believe the death of an owner will lead to the wife immediately dumping the team, or it ending up with owners who will take it to a better market. It’s not the movie, Major League.

This is a fair counter. But I think the broader point is that if Becky gets to a point where she wants to sell (whether immediately or 10 years down the road), she probably won't be as invested in finding someone who is committed to keeping the team in Minnesota as Glen has been.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#64 » by shrink » Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:37 pm

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guest81 wrote:It's been well known for years that the Taylor family has no interest in running the wolves. Hence why glen is selling in the first place

Yes that’s true. But when Paul Allen and Tom Benson died (both in 2018), there was a lot of questions about the future of those ball clubs. They were both the toys of the husbands, and when the wives inherited everything, many expected a sale of the clubs. Neither one was successful financially, and the Pelicans are often considered the worst market in the NBA. Those wives didn’t even go to all the games. Surprisingly, six years later, those teams are still in their wives hands. They aren’t particularly active owners (I don’t think owners should be, let the basketball people do their job), but they do all the owner functions and attend the NBA owners meetings just like their late husbands.

I’m not saying that Becky Taylor is going to hold onto the team or sell too, which is no different than her husband. I wanted to make sure people were aware of similar, but not identical, situations in the past. People shouldn’t believe the death of an owner will lead to the wife immediately dumping the team, or it ending up with owners who will take it to a better market. It’s not the movie, Major League.

This is a fair counter. But I think the broader point is that if Becky gets to a point where she wants to sell (whether immediately or 10 years down the road), she probably won't be as invested in finding someone who is committed to keeping the team in Minnesota as Glen has been.

I would not make that assumption, carrying on her deceased husband’s wishes, let alone her own ties to Minnesota and the community. But it’s all speculation.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#65 » by guest81 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:06 am

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shrink wrote:I suppose I should also mention that when the last two owners died in Portland and New Orleans, the wives have kept the teams.

It's been well known for years that the Taylor family has no interest in running the wolves. Hence why glen is selling in the first place

Yes that’s true. But when Paul Allen and Tom Benson died (both in 2018), there was a lot of questions about the future of those ball clubs. They were both the toys of the husbands, and when the wives inherited everything, many expected a sale of the clubs. Neither one was successful financially, and the Pelicans are often considered the worst market in the NBA. Those wives didn’t even go to all the games. Surprisingly, six years later, those teams are still in their wives hands. They aren’t particularly active owners (I don’t think owners should be, let the basketball people do their job), but they do all the owner functions and attend the NBA owners meetings just like their late husbands.

I’m not saying that Becky Taylor is going to hold onto the team or sell too, which is no different than her husband. I wanted to make sure people were aware of similar, but not identical, situations in the past. People shouldn’t believe the death of an owner will lead to the wife immediately dumping the team, or it ending up with owners who will take it to a better market. It’s not the movie, Major League.


You would really rather have Becky taylor own the team the Lore and arod? You also don't think a basketball owner should know how to run a business? Who hires the gm?
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#66 » by Sealab2024 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:43 pm

Give this man his flowers. Nobody saw a real way to improve this team for next year with the salary restraints we face. Most of us were white knuckling resigning SloMo and Monte, not thinking about adding long term top tier talent.

Well when there was no way, he made a way. The team desperately needed someone like Rob and just as desperately someone like TSJ, both of whom can create and make their own shots right now, in the NBA. How on earth this man convinced the Spurs to trade a lottery pick for a pick 7 years from now and a swap is some dark magic ish I'm not sure I wanna know about. How on earth the NBA let Terrence slide to 27 is just as confounding but Connely patiently waited and got his second of maybe a half dozen prospects in this draft ready to contribute right away, but also have tons of room for improvement. He also heads off the eventual loss of NAW next year, making Naz the only real concern going into the 2025-26 season.

He's built a championship contender, with youth and tons of room to grow that'll be together for the foreseeable future save potentially one guy whom I think they figure out a way to keep. Just brilliant work by Tim.
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Post#67 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:58 pm

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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#68 » by minimus » Tue Jul 2, 2024 9:06 am



Good talk
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Post#69 » by shrink » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:41 pm

How the hell does Connelly have time to do radio TODAY?

There are probably 350 better days in a year for an NBA GM. And most of those days he doesn’t talk with the media.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#70 » by Klomp » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:54 pm

shrink wrote:How the hell does Connelly have time to do radio TODAY?

There are probably 350 better days in a year for an NBA GM. And most of those days he doesn’t talk with the media.

That was yesterday actually :wink:
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#71 » by Note30 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:27 pm

Sealab2024 wrote:Give this man his flowers. Nobody saw a real way to improve this team for next year with the salary restraints we face. Most of us were white knuckling resigning SloMo and Monte, not thinking about adding long term top tier talent.

Well when there was no way, he made a way. The team desperately needed someone like Rob and just as desperately someone like TSJ, both of whom can create and make their own shots right now, in the NBA. How on earth this man convinced the Spurs to trade a lottery pick for a pick 7 years from now and a swap is some dark magic ish I'm not sure I wanna know about. How on earth the NBA let Terrence slide to 27 is just as confounding but Connely patiently waited and got his second of maybe a half dozen prospects in this draft ready to contribute right away, but also have tons of room for improvement. He also heads off the eventual loss of NAW next year, making Naz the only real concern going into the 2025-26 season.

He's built a championship contender, with youth and tons of room to grow that'll be together for the foreseeable future save potentially one guy whom I think they figure out a way to keep. Just brilliant work by Tim.



He spent assets 7 years in the future from now. Spending that pick now when we have no clue how things are going to shape out is risky. Everyone on this roster could theoretically be gone by the time it rolls around. Hell he might not be around.

We don't know how good Rob is. If he's a bust, Connelly just shot his last decent asset not part of the core for nothing. It's extremely high risk high reward.

It's easy to spend money you don't have and incur debt.

Stop sucking him off, until we hang a banner we're just the Clippers.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#72 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:50 pm

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Sealab2024 wrote:Give this man his flowers. Nobody saw a real way to improve this team for next year with the salary restraints we face. Most of us were white knuckling resigning SloMo and Monte, not thinking about adding long term top tier talent.

Well when there was no way, he made a way. The team desperately needed someone like Rob and just as desperately someone like TSJ, both of whom can create and make their own shots right now, in the NBA. How on earth this man convinced the Spurs to trade a lottery pick for a pick 7 years from now and a swap is some dark magic ish I'm not sure I wanna know about. How on earth the NBA let Terrence slide to 27 is just as confounding but Connely patiently waited and got his second of maybe a half dozen prospects in this draft ready to contribute right away, but also have tons of room for improvement. He also heads off the eventual loss of NAW next year, making Naz the only real concern going into the 2025-26 season.

He's built a championship contender, with youth and tons of room to grow that'll be together for the foreseeable future save potentially one guy whom I think they figure out a way to keep. Just brilliant work by Tim.



He spent assets 7 years in the future from now. Spending that pick now when we have no clue how things are going to shape out is risky. Everyone on this roster could theoretically be gone by the time it rolls around. Hell he might not be around.

We don't know how good Rob is. If he's a bust, Connelly just shot his last decent asset not part of the core for nothing. It's extremely high risk high reward.

It's easy to spend money you don't have and incur debt.

Stop sucking him off, until we hang a banner we're just the Clippers.

Every trade and every draft pick is a risk. We needed a player with Dilly's skills now. Who really cares about 7 years from now. It was about as low risk high reward as we're ever going to see.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#73 » by Note30 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:48 pm

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Sealab2024 wrote:Give this man his flowers. Nobody saw a real way to improve this team for next year with the salary restraints we face. Most of us were white knuckling resigning SloMo and Monte, not thinking about adding long term top tier talent.

Well when there was no way, he made a way. The team desperately needed someone like Rob and just as desperately someone like TSJ, both of whom can create and make their own shots right now, in the NBA. How on earth this man convinced the Spurs to trade a lottery pick for a pick 7 years from now and a swap is some dark magic ish I'm not sure I wanna know about. How on earth the NBA let Terrence slide to 27 is just as confounding but Connely patiently waited and got his second of maybe a half dozen prospects in this draft ready to contribute right away, but also have tons of room for improvement. He also heads off the eventual loss of NAW next year, making Naz the only real concern going into the 2025-26 season.

He's built a championship contender, with youth and tons of room to grow that'll be together for the foreseeable future save potentially one guy whom I think they figure out a way to keep. Just brilliant work by Tim.



He spent assets 7 years in the future from now. Spending that pick now when we have no clue how things are going to shape out is risky. Everyone on this roster could theoretically be gone by the time it rolls around. Hell he might not be around.

We don't know how good Rob is. If he's a bust, Connelly just shot his last decent asset not part of the core for nothing. It's extremely high risk high reward.

It's easy to spend money you don't have and incur debt.

Stop sucking him off, until we hang a banner we're just the Clippers.

Every trade and every draft pick is a risk. We needed a player with Dilly's skills now. Who really cares about 7 years from now. It was about as low risk high reward as we're ever going to see.


Except it's not a player you've seen before. This was Connellys last major asset that's not a core player. For all you know Rob could be a bob and be a bust. This wasn't a smart move it was a high risk move to add a rookie because he blew the majority of assets on the Gobert trade.

This is the equivalent of when kids make happy birthday cards and write a big HAP- and then realize they have no more space and write ppy Birthday in the last inch of the page.

It's not gonna be low risk if we have nothing in stock and Ant isn't happy with the team in 4 years and wants us to improve the team because it's not good enough and we can't because we traded everything to get better right away.
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Post#74 » by Klomp » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:51 pm

Note30 wrote:Except it's not a player you've seen before. This was Connellys last major asset that's not a core player. For all you know Rob could be a bob and be a bust. This wasn't a smart move it was a high risk move to add a rookie because he blew the majority of assets on the Gobert trade.

This is the equivalent of when kids make happy birthday cards and write a big HAP- and then realize they have no more space and write ppy Birthday in the last inch of the page.

It's not gonna be low risk if we have nothing in stock and Ant isn't happy with the team in 4 years and wants us to improve the team because it's not good enough and we can't because we traded everything to get better away.

Don't forget that as of yesterday, that asset would have been removed from our asset chest because of the second apron penalties. It was use it or lose it.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#75 » by Note30 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:52 pm

Klomp wrote:
Note30 wrote:Except it's not a player you've seen before. This was Connellys last major asset that's not a core player. For all you know Rob could be a bob and be a bust. This wasn't a smart move it was a high risk move to add a rookie because he blew the majority of assets on the Gobert trade.

This is the equivalent of when kids make happy birthday cards and write a big HAP- and then realize they have no more space and write ppy Birthday in the last inch of the page.

It's not gonna be low risk if we have nothing in stock and Ant isn't happy with the team in 4 years and wants us to improve the team because it's not good enough and we can't because we traded everything to get better away.

Don't forget that as of yesterday, that asset would have been removed from our asset chest because of the second apron penalties. It was use it or lose it.


Which... makes things worse? It makes it seem like a desperation heave. We shouldn't be in this position to begin with.

This whole situation reads as oh no I **** up now I'm in the hole, gotta burn more to get back to 0.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#76 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:31 pm

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Klomp wrote:
Note30 wrote:Except it's not a player you've seen before. This was Connellys last major asset that's not a core player. For all you know Rob could be a bob and be a bust. This wasn't a smart move it was a high risk move to add a rookie because he blew the majority of assets on the Gobert trade.

This is the equivalent of when kids make happy birthday cards and write a big HAP- and then realize they have no more space and write ppy Birthday in the last inch of the page.

It's not gonna be low risk if we have nothing in stock and Ant isn't happy with the team in 4 years and wants us to improve the team because it's not good enough and we can't because we traded everything to get better away.

Don't forget that as of yesterday, that asset would have been removed from our asset chest because of the second apron penalties. It was use it or lose it.


Which... makes things worse? It makes it seem like a desperation heave. We shouldn't be in this position to begin with.

This whole situation reads as oh no I **** up now I'm in the hole, gotta burn more to get back to 0.

A first round pick 7 years from now for the 8 overall now is the lowest risk trade I have ever seen in my life. Of all the trades I have ever seen this one has the lowest risk. Could it go wrong? Of course every trade can go wrong.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#77 » by Zonarosa » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:35 pm

Note30 wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Note30 wrote:Except it's not a player you've seen before. This was Connellys last major asset that's not a core player. For all you know Rob could be a bob and be a bust. This wasn't a smart move it was a high risk move to add a rookie because he blew the majority of assets on the Gobert trade.

This is the equivalent of when kids make happy birthday cards and write a big HAP- and then realize they have no more space and write ppy Birthday in the last inch of the page.

It's not gonna be low risk if we have nothing in stock and Ant isn't happy with the team in 4 years and wants us to improve the team because it's not good enough and we can't because we traded everything to get better away.

Don't forget that as of yesterday, that asset would have been removed from our asset chest because of the second apron penalties. It was use it or lose it.


Which... makes things worse? It makes it seem like a desperation heave. We shouldn't be in this position to begin with.

This whole situation reads as oh no I **** up now I'm in the hole, gotta burn more to get back to 0.


if we win a title in the next few years i'm honestly not going to give a damn about that pick.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#78 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:46 pm

Zonarosa wrote:
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Klomp wrote:Don't forget that as of yesterday, that asset would have been removed from our asset chest because of the second apron penalties. It was use it or lose it.


Which... makes things worse? It makes it seem like a desperation heave. We shouldn't be in this position to begin with.

This whole situation reads as oh no I **** up now I'm in the hole, gotta burn more to get back to 0.


if we win a title in the next few years i'm honestly not going to give a damn about that pick.

And it was a move for now and the future. A 19 year old PG who could be our starter for 10 or more years.
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Re: BREAKING: Timberwolves restructure with Tim Connelly 

Post#79 » by Note30 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:48 pm

Zonarosa wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Klomp wrote:Don't forget that as of yesterday, that asset would have been removed from our asset chest because of the second apron penalties. It was use it or lose it.


Which... makes things worse? It makes it seem like a desperation heave. We shouldn't be in this position to begin with.

This whole situation reads as oh no I **** up now I'm in the hole, gotta burn more to get back to 0.


if we win a title in the next few years i'm honestly not going to give a damn about that pick.


And if we don't?
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Post#80 » by shrink » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:52 pm

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Note30 wrote:Which... makes things worse? It makes it seem like a desperation heave. We shouldn't be in this position to begin with.

This whole situation reads as oh no I **** up now I'm in the hole, gotta burn more to get back to 0.

A first round pick 7 years from now for the 8 overall now is the lowest risk trade I have ever seen in my life. Of all the trades I have ever seen this one has the lowest risk. Could it go wrong? Of course every trade can go wrong.

Trades that can go wrong for unprotected picks have the most potential to go the farthest wrong.

BOS just won a title with distant future picks from the Nets in the 2013 KG Pierce trade.

2016 1st Round Draft Pick (to be Jaylen Brown)
2017 1st Round Draft Pick (to be Jayson Tatum)
2018 1st Round Draft Pick (used to trade for Kyrie Irving)

It’s a high risk, high return move. I hope Dillingham and Connelly make it worthwhile

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