Cleveland/Lakers

bgrep14 · Post #1 » by **bgrep14** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:44 pm

Cavs - S&T Okoro (4/44) and Niang

Lakers - Rui Hachimura

Rui can get a chance to play a larger role in Cleveland that he doesn't get in LA

Lakers get a veteran floor spacer and wing defender they currently don't have today.

If this doesn't make sense what number of seconds to who makes up the difference?

mcfly1204 · Post #2 » by **mcfly1204** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:46 pm

I can see Rui being an interesting fit at the 3 for Cleveland.

DowJones · Post #3 » by **DowJones** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:09 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:I can see Rui being an interesting fit at the 3 for Cleveland.

Rui is a 4.

I would do this deal in a second.

Post #4 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:14 pm

Lakers are going to want to send back Vincent instead and that's where I'd get off the train.

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #5 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:17 pm

Can Lakers do S&T?

mcfly1204 · Post #6 » by **mcfly1204** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:17 pm

DowJones wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:I can see Rui being an interesting fit at the 3 for Cleveland.

Rui is a 4.

I would do this deal in a second.

Lauri was a 4 before coming to Cleveland as well.

bgrep14 · Post #7 » by **bgrep14** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:24 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Lakers are going to want to send back Vincent instead and that's where I'd get off the train.

I don't even think the Cavs could take Vincent back in this scenario but I'd love to take back Wood if they wanted to part with him.

tidho · Post #8 » by **tidho** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:18 pm

Prefer to keep Okoro around, but at some point the roster needs to be balanced.

CLE would have to do this if it were available.

bgrep14 · Post #9 » by **bgrep14** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:39 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Can Lakers do S&T?

Lakers have 14 million in cap at the moment so I think it'd work.

DowJones · Post #10 » by **DowJones** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:44 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:
DowJones wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:I can see Rui being an interesting fit at the 3 for Cleveland.

Rui is a 4.

I would do this deal in a second.

Lauri was a 4 before coming to Cleveland as well.

Lauri should not have been a 3 in Cleveland. I don't want to go back to the Tower City lineup. It was cute after we were bad for 3 straight years, but you aren't any kind of playoff contender playing 5's at the 4 and 4's at the 3.

louc1970 · Post #11 » by **louc1970** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:54 pm

I like Okoro teamed up with Mitchell for the long run. I think his defense is a positive next to a smaller PG.

mcfly1204 · Post #12 » by **mcfly1204** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:25 pm

DowJones wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:
DowJones wrote:
Rui is a 4.

I would do this deal in a second.

Lauri was a 4 before coming to Cleveland as well.

Lauri should not have been a 3 in Cleveland. I don't want to go back to the Tower City lineup. It was cute after we were bad for 3 straight years, but you aren't any kind of playoff contender playing 5's at the 4 and 4's at the 3.

If it's effective, I could care less about playing guys "out of position". I can't help but hear Billy Beane, "if we try to play like the Celtics in here, we will lose to the Celtics out there."

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #13 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:33 pm

bgrep14 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Can Lakers do S&T?
Lakers have 14 million in cap at the moment so I think it'd work.

Works for me if possible.

toooskies · Post #14 » by **toooskies** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:44 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:
DowJones wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:Lauri was a 4 before coming to Cleveland as well.

Lauri should not have been a 3 in Cleveland. I don't want to go back to the Tower City lineup. It was cute after we were bad for 3 straight years, but you aren't any kind of playoff contender playing 5's at the 4 and 4's at the 3.

If it's effective, I could care less about playing guys "out of position". I can't help but hear Billy Beane, "if we try to play like the Celtics in here, we will lose to the Celtics out there."

I'd honestly prefer the possibility of playing either big or small at the 3. Rui against taller 3s, Strus against smaller ones.

But more important is being able to push Niang to the other team's weakest offensive player, or not play him at all.

DowJones · Post #15 » by **DowJones** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:47 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:
DowJones wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:Lauri was a 4 before coming to Cleveland as well.

Lauri should not have been a 3 in Cleveland. I don't want to go back to the Tower City lineup. It was cute after we were bad for 3 straight years, but you aren't any kind of playoff contender playing 5's at the 4 and 4's at the 3.

If it's effective, I could care less about playing guys "out of position". I can't help but hear Billy Beane, "if we try to play like the Celtics in here, we will lose to the Celtics out there."

I just don't think jumbo lineups work in the modern NBA where teams use pace and space. I don't think starting 3 bigs gives Cleveland the structural advantage many of their fans do.

Niko23 · Post #16 » by **Niko23** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:05 pm

I think Okoro gets a bigger bag then that tho.....

Post #17 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Jul 2, 2024 9:05 pm

Niko23 wrote:I think Okoro gets a bigger bag then that tho.....

He may not, but he may prefer to play on the Q.O. and enter 2025 as an unrestricted F.A.

Niko23 · Post #18 » by **Niko23** » Mon Jul 8, 2024 6:40 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Niko23 wrote:I think Okoro gets a bigger bag then that tho.....

He may not, but he may prefer to play on the Q.O. and enter 2025 as an unrestricted F.A.

I am liking the idea of Cam Johnson more and more if they run it back.

Karmaloop · Post #19 » by **Karmaloop** » Mon Jul 8, 2024 9:06 pm

Pretty sure Dan Gilbert has no interest in trading with the Lakers.

mcfly1204 · Post #20 » by **mcfly1204** » Mon Jul 8, 2024 11:16 pm

Karmaloop wrote:Pretty sure Dan Gilbert has no interest in trading with the Lakers.

Pretty sure Gilbert wants to make his team better. I don't expect any trades with the Suns, but I don't think he's too concerned about LAL.