Trades and Transactions thread cont - post Mikal trade

[mpharris36]

Brunson/FA/Kolek
Mikal/Donte
OG/Hart/Dadiet
Randle/Precious/McCullar
Mitch/Kessler/Sims

This team can win a chip!

Kyle Lowry for the TPMLE could fit right behind brunson.

[Polk377]

Brunson/FA/Kolek
Mikal/Donte
OG/Hart/Dadiet
Randle/Precious/McCullar
Mitch/Kessler/Sims

This team can win a chip!

Kyle Lowry for the TPMLE could fit right behind brunson.

Nahhh that is Rokas' spot

[stuporman]

I mean they treated Kessler as a bench player last year and McBride was a 20 minutes per game big time performer in the playoffs on one of the best contracts in the game. It should be pretty close to his value.

I think McBride starts for Utah from day 1. He can be Ainge's Marcus Smart with less defense and more shooting.

Relative value doesn't mean much to mAinge because he always wants to win every trade and especially if someone is desperate he's going to pick the other team clean.

then we pivot...Duece is a pretty close to fair value from everyway you look at it...Thats a cost controlled your piece for a cost controlled young piece. Maybe we have to add in one of our protected 1st rounders but if not we pivot to a lower cost option like Richards.

If the Knicks hadn't acquired Bridges, who can defend the few smaller fast guards OG wasn't able to
and Kolek to provide stable back up PG mins at then the loss of Deuce would be a bigger deal in the scheme of things.

Kessler is a much better fit than Richards for Thibs defensive tendencies even if fans might appreciate the offensive option the latter provides. I just don't like the idea of mAinge getting the last laugh or any laugh ever at the Knicks expense.

If Randle wasn't so bad at defense I'd be more inclined to take a weaker defensive center presence like Richards but come playoff time and the possibility of Mitch injury it could be quite problematic for the team. Even with iHart the team defense slipped without Mitch.

Although, it could be argued that the Knicks with OG and Bridges are better equipped for weaker defensive front line play than they were last season.

[mpharris36]

Brunson/FA/Kolek
Mikal/Donte
OG/Hart/Dadiet
Randle/Precious/McCullar
Mitch/Kessler/Sims

This team can win a chip!

Kyle Lowry for the TPMLE could fit right behind brunson.

Nahhh that is Rokas' spot

knicks are not trusting rokas in playoff minutes right now...

[Knick4Real]

FYI: Just because we don't hear about every phone call and every inquiry doesn't mean our front office is doing nothing. We need to settle the Bridges agreement before we can theoretically do anything else. It's priority.

Once that's done and we're up to the 2nd apron, we will be able to make moves. I wouldn't be surprised to see a multi-team trade in the end.

[Polk377]

Get Kessler and do it now! The kid is exactly the C we need in this Thibs scheme. A true shot blocker and interior anchor, who rebounds on both ends and has upside as a pick and roll finisher and a face up jumper. With being limited cap wise, having his restricted contract to match next season will be huge. He is a starting level future piece. Get it done Leon!

[mpharris36]

Relative value doesn't mean much to mAinge because he always wants to win every trade and especially if someone is desperate he's going to pick the other team clean.

then we pivot...Duece is a pretty close to fair value from everyway you look at it...Thats a cost controlled your piece for a cost controlled young piece. Maybe we have to add in one of our protected 1st rounders but if not we pivot to a lower cost option like Richards.

If the Knicks hadn't acquired Bridges, who can defend the few smaller fast guards OG wasn't able to
and Kolek to provide stable back up PG mins at then the loss of Deuce would be a bigger deal in the scheme of things.

Kessler is a much better fit than Richards for Thibs defensive tendencies even if fans might appreciate the offensive option the latter provides. I just don't like the idea of mAinge getting the last laugh or any laugh ever at the Knicks expense.

If Randle wasn't so bad at defense I'd be more inclined to take a weaker defensive center presence like Richards but come playoff time and the possibility of Mitch injury it could be quite problematic for the team. Even with iHart the team defense slipped without Mitch.

Although, it could be argued that the Knicks with OG and Bridges are better equipped for weaker defensive front line play than they were last season.

I think everyone would prefer Kessler to Richards...its the cost of acquisition that may play a factor...Ainge is obviously a wild card...

Duece would have to go for Kessler

Duece wouldn't be going for Richards.

[Polk377]

Kyle Lowry for the TPMLE could fit right behind brunson.

Nahhh that is Rokas' spot

knicks are not trusting rokas in playoff minutes right now...

That's good because there are 82 games until the playoffs.......

[stuporman]

If dealing with the Jazz mAinge is going to want Pac Dadi, Rokas and all the 'garbage' protected firsts along with a swap option to boot just to deal with the Knicks....oh, in addition to Deuce...and you will like it?

[R-DAWG]

FYI: Just because we don't hear about every phone call and every inquiry doesn't mean our front office is doing nothing. We need to settle the Bridges agreement before we can theoretically do anything else. It's priority.

Once that's done and we're up to the 2nd apron, we will be able to make moves. I wouldn't be surprised to see a multi-team trade in the end.

Typically you don't hear about the trade conversations that are real and happening. Most of the times the stuff that is leaked is stuff that isn't going anywhere.

[mpharris36]

Nahhh that is Rokas' spot

knicks are not trusting rokas in playoff minutes right now...

That's good because there are 82 games until the playoffs.......

rokas plays a limited roll on his club team...I think Kolek is better at this point.

[WargamesX]

FYI: Just because we don't hear about every phone call and every inquiry doesn't mean our front office is doing nothing. We need to settle the Bridges agreement before we can theoretically do anything else. It's priority.

Once that's done and we're up to the 2nd apron, we will be able to make moves. I wouldn't be surprised to see a multi-team trade in the end.

I don’t know if we need to go to the 2nd apron. All the 2nd rounders we drafted their salary doesn’t count towards the hard cap. If they trade for Richards or Kessler, they could still use the 2/10 TPE and then go over the hard cap by signing the 3 guys drafted in the second round.

[Polk377]

knicks are not trusting rokas in playoff minutes right now...

That's good because there are 82 games until the playoffs.......

rokas plays a limited roll on his club team...I think Kolek is better at this point.

Well you will have both of them. Rokas was trusted in big moments in both Euroleague and FIBA play as well so it's not like he has never dealt with playoff type scenarios.

[Spree2Houston]

I could see Knicks throwing in Deuce into the Bridges trade to recoup some picks and using them for Kessler

[sol537]

If dealing with the Jazz mAinge is going to want Pac Dadi, Rokas and all the 'garbage' protected firsts along with a swap option to boot just to deal with the Knicks....oh, in addition to Deuce...and you will like it?

Look at Ainge’s last 6 or so trades in Utah… most were pretty reasonable and they were either neutral or he lost the trade or TBD. Their coach isn’t playing Kessler and they’ve got like 6 big men so something’s gotta give you would think…

[HarthorneWingo]

If dealing with the Jazz mAinge is going to want Pac Dadi, Rokas and all the 'garbage' protected firsts along with a swap option to boot just to deal with the Knicks....oh, in addition to Deuce...and you will like it?

Look at Ainge’s last 6 or so trades in Utah… most were pretty reasonable and they were either neutral or he lost the trade or TBD. Their coach isn’t playing Kessler and they’ve got like 6 big men so something’s gotta give you would think…

And I think they just acquired another big.

I just don't want to give up Deuce.

[Polk377]

I could see Knicks throwing in Deuce into the Bridges trade to recoup some picks and using them for Kessler

I think Utah would value Deuce and that contract more than the picks.

[stuporman]

then we pivot...Duece is a pretty close to fair value from everyway you look at it...Thats a cost controlled your piece for a cost controlled young piece. Maybe we have to add in one of our protected 1st rounders but if not we pivot to a lower cost option like Richards.

If the Knicks hadn't acquired Bridges, who can defend the few smaller fast guards OG wasn't able to
and Kolek to provide stable back up PG mins at then the loss of Deuce would be a bigger deal in the scheme of things.

Kessler is a much better fit than Richards for Thibs defensive tendencies even if fans might appreciate the offensive option the latter provides. I just don't like the idea of mAinge getting the last laugh or any laugh ever at the Knicks expense.

If Randle wasn't so bad at defense I'd be more inclined to take a weaker defensive center presence like Richards but come playoff time and the possibility of Mitch injury it could be quite problematic for the team. Even with iHart the team defense slipped without Mitch.

Although, it could be argued that the Knicks with OG and Bridges are better equipped for weaker defensive front line play than they were last season.

I think everyone would prefer Kessler to Richards...its the cost of acquisition that may play a factor...Ainge is obviously a wild card...

Duece would have to go for Kessler

Duece wouldn't be going for Richards.

I'm still having a tough time believing that Rose and Co would let themselves be so unprepared to fill the void of iHart when it was clear he could leave. Either that or they were prepared to pay the cost in trade to get the player to fill the void shrugging it off as what needs to be done.

[WargamesX]

I could see Knicks throwing in Deuce into the Bridges trade to recoup some picks and using them for Kessler

That makes a lot of sense…. I wonder could it be expanded that the Nets S&T Dennis Smith Jr to the Knicks?

Basically expand the trade.

[TheGreenArrow]

We wouldnt even have to include mcbride in either trade since we are about 5.2 million from the first apron. Kessler makes about 2.6 and Richards 5 million. I would think we would be giving up some swaps and the det/washington picks

you aren't getting Kessler without Duece...lets not be crazy here...Nick Richards who is far less impactful sure you can probably get for a couple 2nd rounders....but Kessler going to cost you at least Duece.

Supposedly kolek and mcullar jr with 2nd rd picks could get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!