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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#101 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:42 pm

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Bigger Enes Kanter.


That's a no for me. I loathed Enes Kanter.

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Kanter sucks defensively from what I remember of his playing days, on top of that he's a major ass hole.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#102 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:44 pm

Daniel Theis is the guy that needs to be the target.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#103 » by moocow007 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:16 pm

I don't think we need someone that is 7 feet or near 7 feet (a so-called "traditional center").

At this point I think someone that they can probably try to sign for the Tax MLE is Dario Saric. Saric is a tough nosed player that has played both PF and C in recent years, solid passer and an able outside shooter. He can backup both Randle at PF and Robinson at C and if either gets hurt can take on more than just backup minutes. If we are looking for more of an "offensive centric" counterpart to Mitch Saric probably makes the most sense of the ones left. Saric made just $2.7 million vet min last season.

Theiss (also just 6'8") and Achiuwa (also just 6'8") could definitely be alternatives.

And there's always..."Once a Knick, Always a Knick" who is also a UFA.

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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#104 » by will » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:19 pm

moocow007 wrote:I don't think we need someone that is 7 feet or near 7 feet (a so-called "traditional center").

At this point I think someone that they can probably try to sign for the Tax MLE is Dario Saric. Saric is a tough nosed player that has played both PF and C in recent years, solid passer and an able outside shooter. He can backup both Randle at PF and Robinson at C and if either gets hurt can take on more than just backup minutes.

Theiss (also just 6'8") and Achiuwa (also just 6'8") could definitely be alternatives.

And there's always..."Once a Knick, Always a Knick" who is also a UFA.

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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#105 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:21 pm

2010 wrote:8-MAN ROTATION
1: Brunson (35) / McBride (13)
2: Bridges (18) / DiVincenzo (30)
3: Anunoby (32) / Bridges (16)
4: Randle (17) / Hart (31)
5: Robinson (30) / Randle (18)

MINUTE DISTRIBUTION
Brunson – 35 mins
Randle – 35 mins
Bridges – 34 mins
Anunoby – 32 mins
Robinson – 30 mins
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Hart – 31 mins
DiVincenzo – 30 mins
McBride – 13 mins


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I am sure others have made this point, but this is a profoundly poor take for anyone who knows the Knicks as well as you do.
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Sims is fine as a 3rd guy at present.
Randle would single handedly break our defense on most occasions and that is taking aside that he too has been hurt to some degree every year.

2 positions we need depth at
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so yea, we need a player in the worst way and pretty much every 1/4 decent name has evaporated.

Even Mo Wagner just got 2/22.

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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#106 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:22 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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That's a no for me. I loathed Enes Kanter.

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Kanter sucks defensively from what I remember of his playing days, on top of that he's a major ass hole.


how is he an ass?
I mean his defense was for sure, but what did he do personally that was bad?
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#107 » by moocow007 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:23 pm

will wrote:
moocow007 wrote:I don't think we need someone that is 7 feet or near 7 feet (a so-called "traditional center").

At this point I think someone that they can probably try to sign for the Tax MLE is Dario Saric. Saric is a tough nosed player that has played both PF and C in recent years, solid passer and an able outside shooter. He can backup both Randle at PF and Robinson at C and if either gets hurt can take on more than just backup minutes.

Theiss (also just 6'8") and Achiuwa (also just 6'8") could definitely be alternatives.

And there's always..."Once a Knick, Always a Knick" who is also a UFA.

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Once injured, always injured can be applied to Danilo.


LOL yeah I added the "spoiler" after the initial post. He looked cooked last season and his workout vids from this offseason (just a couple weeks ago) don't look any better. He's gotten very thick in the waist, let's just say.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#108 » by will » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:23 pm

moocow007 wrote:
will wrote:
moocow007 wrote:I don't think we need someone that is 7 feet or near 7 feet (a so-called "traditional center").

At this point I think someone that they can probably try to sign for the Tax MLE is Dario Saric. Saric is a tough nosed player that has played both PF and C in recent years, solid passer and an able outside shooter. He can backup both Randle at PF and Robinson at C and if either gets hurt can take on more than just backup minutes.

Theiss (also just 6'8") and Achiuwa (also just 6'8") could definitely be alternatives.

And there's always..."Once a Knick, Always a Knick" who is also a UFA.

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Once injured, always injured can be applied to Danilo.


LOL yeah I added the "spoiler" after the initial post. He looked cooked last season and his workout vids from this offseason (just a couple weeks ago) don't look any better. He's gotten very thick in the waist, let's just say.


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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#109 » by StlHawksFan » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:40 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Daniel Theis is the guy that needs to be the target.


He's never played close to a full season.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#110 » by Carl_Karlson » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:50 pm

You guys saying OG can be the back up C are crazy. That shouldn’t be a nightly thing. It should be used in clutch playoff situations.

We should just trade for Nick Richards
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#111 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:51 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Daniel Theis is the guy that needs to be the target.


He's never played close to a full season.


Yikes okay scratch that I didn't realize he was always that banged up
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Post#112 » by StlHawksFan » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:52 pm

Capn'O wrote:I like the idea of going small. Especially since we have a bit of a glut at the 2/3 again. It definitely changes strategy since a huge part of our offense was planning for offensive rebounds. I'd rather have at least one more insurance guy but my guess is that the brass doesn't like the free agent market and is looking for trades to sure up the roster.

We can certainly enter the season like this. One thing I wonder is if we'll be able to keep the whole Villanova core long term. I feel like one of Hart and Donte is excess with the new cap constraints.


Hard cap resets after the season ends. Cap is expected to bump a lot next year with the TV deal. I think we'll be ok.

It's pretty clear we're going to need to bring Precious in on a cheap deal while we pray Hukporti is the second coming of Hartenstein.

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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#113 » by nykinoz » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:18 pm

We need to trade a guard for a big, thats out option.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#114 » by j4remi » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:20 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:Breaking news:

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Kanter sucks defensively from what I remember of his playing days, on top of that he's a major ass hole.


how is he an ass?
I mean his defense was for sure, but what did he do personally that was bad?


When he was with us, the team was kinda in the tank, and he was atrocious on defense as usual. He wound up benched for younger bigs Mitch Robinson and Luke Kornet, and he threw a public tantrum over it. He would brag about being a good teammate while also demanding to be traded if he wasn't gonna get minutes. It was pretty obnoxious...though, I started hating him before the tantrum.

His game was easy to hate. It was a "get mine" style where his defense was non-existent, and his touches were almost guaranteed to end in a shot or a turnover. He played selfish ball, then acted selfish when he got benched for it.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#115 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:37 pm

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nykballa2k4 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Kanter sucks defensively from what I remember of his playing days, on top of that he's a major ass hole.


how is he an ass?
I mean his defense was for sure, but what did he do personally that was bad?


When he was with us, the team was kinda in the tank, and he was atrocious on defense as usual. He wound up benched for younger bigs Mitch Robinson and Luke Kornet, and he threw a public tantrum over it. He would brag about being a good teammate while also demanding to be traded if he wasn't gonna get minutes. It was pretty obnoxious...though, I started hating him before the tantrum.

His game was easy to hate. It was a "get mine" style where his defense was non-existent, and his touches were almost guaranteed to end in a shot or a turnover. He played selfish ball, then acted selfish when he got benched for it.


We have a different recall then. I don't remember him being a bad teammate. He also is more of a classic big in that he is an efficient scorer in the paint. He did perform terribly on defense. You can't really have him out there when the entire rest of your team are chuckers.
He was not a good fit, he recognized that, and he also believed he would have a useful role elsewhere. His political stance was brave and he seemed like he was a good natured person overall though.
By the end of his tenure, he had a similar role to Toney Douglas
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#116 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:41 pm

j4remi wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Kanter sucks defensively from what I remember of his playing days, on top of that he's a major ass hole.


how is he an ass?
I mean his defense was for sure, but what did he do personally that was bad?


When he was with us, the team was kinda in the tank, and he was atrocious on defense as usual. He wound up benched for younger bigs Mitch Robinson and Luke Kornet, and he threw a public tantrum over it. He would brag about being a good teammate while also demanding to be traded if he wasn't gonna get minutes. It was pretty obnoxious...though, I started hating him before the tantrum.

His game was easy to hate. It was a "get mine" style where his defense was non-existent, and his touches were almost guaranteed to end in a shot or a turnover. He played selfish ball, then acted selfish when he got benched for it.


Yeah he's an awful teammate. Maybe calling him an ass hole is a bit much on my end but is what it is. He's a crybaby and one of the worst defensive big men I've ever seen.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#117 » by KOA » Wed Jul 3, 2024 12:14 am

Bigger need is a backup PF as we literally have none.
Moving OG over is not a long term solution given his injury history.

I can see Precious coming back for his versatility.
Whoever we get needs to be able to protect the rim and rebound
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#118 » by Kidknick! » Wed Jul 3, 2024 12:23 am

Trade for Kelly Olynyk. And call it a day, IHart replacement.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#119 » by stuporman » Wed Jul 3, 2024 12:29 am

I came into the thread looking to see rotational proof provided by the OP and all I saw was a joke...not a very funny one either.
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Re: We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof) 

Post#120 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jul 3, 2024 12:42 am

j4remi wrote:
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j4remi wrote:I didn't watch enough Jazz basketball to know, but I see Omer Yurtseven being name dropped. How's he?


Bigger Enes Kanter.


That's a no for me. I loathed Enes Kanter.


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