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Re: Cleveland/New Orleans 

Post#21 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:40 pm

phraoh wrote:Not sure what the big fuss about Jones is...he averaged 11 pts. a game in 30 minutes???!! I know he is a good defender, but Murphy is the big draw. Allen has a lot of value around the league, and I think you would be surprised at what the Cavs would get for him if he becomes available. There isn't a GM in the league who would take Jones even up for Allen.


Jones isnt just a good defender - he is a great defender. He was close to the 50/40/90 club last season and is locked into a very affordable deal for the next 3 seasons.

Any team in win-now mode would love to have him. Not all guys can be 20ppg players - 11 points in 30 minutes means nothing regarding Jones value. If thats how players were evaluated a guy like Oubre would have more value than every 3/D roleplayer in the league - which clearly is insane.
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Re: Cleveland/New Orleans 

Post#22 » by Whole Truth » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:47 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
phraoh wrote:Not sure what the big fuss about Jones is...he averaged 11 pts. a game in 30 minutes???!! I know he is a good defender, but Murphy is the big draw. Allen has a lot of value around the league, and I think you would be surprised at what the Cavs would get for him if he becomes available. There isn't a GM in the league who would take Jones even up for Allen.


Jones isnt just a good defender - he is a great defender. He was close to the 50/40/90 club last season and is locked into a very affordable deal for the next 3 seasons.

Any team in win-now mode would love to have him. Not all guys can be 20ppg players - 11 points in 30 minutes means nothing regarding Jones value. If thats how players were evaluated a guy like Oubre would have more value than every 3/D roleplayer in the league - which clearly is insane.


30mins - 12pts on (7 APG), 1st team defender, 12m/3yr contract.
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Re: Cleveland/New Orleans 

Post#23 » by jbk1234 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:59 pm

PELICANSFAN wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Whole Truth wrote:
You know something ?.

The chances of Herb getting traded now should be reduced even more now that Daniels is gone.


The rumor is that he was on the table for Allen last season, and while I agree that trading Daniels would mean they'd have to replace one or both of them, that shouldn't be difficult. Thybulle is very gettable. The Kings just dumped Mitchell on the Raptors. No offer has been made to Okoro yet. It's just not that difficult to replace guards and wings whose primary value is on the defensive side of the floor.

I can guarantee you Herb was NEVER on the table for Allen. Cleveland would have jumped at that in a heart beat if so.


How would you guarantee that?

Like, if you're wrong about that, then what?
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: Cleveland/New Orleans 

Post#24 » by Whole Truth » Tue Jul 2, 2024 9:01 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
PELICANSFAN wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
The rumor is that he was on the table for Allen last season, and while I agree that trading Daniels would mean they'd have to replace one or both of them, that shouldn't be difficult. Thybulle is very gettable. The Kings just dumped Mitchell on the Raptors. No offer has been made to Okoro yet. It's just not that difficult to replace guards and wings whose primary value is on the defensive side of the floor.

I can guarantee you Herb was NEVER on the table for Allen. Cleveland would have jumped at that in a heart beat if so.


How would you guarantee that?

Like, if you're wrong about that, then what?


Griff burner account :D

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