24-25 Trade Thread

[FarBeyondDriven]

You don't give up Keegan in a Lauri trade. When you factor in both sides of the ball Lauri isn't THAT much ahead of Keegan.
Different players yes, but give me the kid that can defend at a really good level.

you are vastly overrating Keegan. We're not serious trading partners because unless it's for Fox, we have nothing they'd want despite this report. Keegan is not anywhere near good enough nor are our future picks.

[Lost in LA]

I think Monte is feeling the pressure so at a minimum the Kings need to see what they can do on pretty much everyone with a pulse.

The challenge is the economics of the game are changing again with the new CBA. The Boston model will not work in the long term as the fifth best player is getting close to $30mm per year. I believe some owners will pay onerous taxes to win now as the value of the franchises keeps going up astronomically. The NFL and NBA are the dominant sports for the next 10 years. Teams that do not spend aggressively will be left behind, and draft pick retention is critical as the initial player contracts will be the only ones that are not at market. So giving away a lot of picks to dump salary or acquire a fourth best player might not be that smart. That's why in the NFL good teams draft their QB.

[BoogieTime]

You don't give up Keegan in a Lauri trade. When you factor in both sides of the ball Lauri isn't THAT much ahead of Keegan.
Different players yes, but give me the kid that can defend at a really good level.

you are vastly overrating Keegan. We're not serious trading partners because unless it's for Fox, we have nothing they'd want despite this report. Keegan is not anywhere near good enough nor are our future picks.

However it’s been reported that the Jazz would like Keegan in the deal, so yea they would be interested in a Keegan package probably (read the tweet)

Beforehand I didn’t mind including Keegan for Lauri as I think Lauri is a borderline franchise guy, but it’s more proper asset management I think to keep Keegan and get Ingram/Kuzma or whoever and keep Keegan if possible

[OxAndFox]

You don't give up Keegan in a Lauri trade. When you factor in both sides of the ball Lauri isn't THAT much ahead of Keegan.
Different players yes, but give me the kid that can defend at a really good level.

you are vastly overrating Keegan. We're not serious trading partners because unless it's for Fox, we have nothing they'd want despite this report. Keegan is not anywhere near good enough nor are our future picks.

We're talking about a 23yo Keegan vs a 27yo Lauri though.
Yes Lauri is the far superior player right now. Keegan isn't far off when Lauri was the same age. He had the green light in his second season and scored 18ppg on 15 shots. Outside of that, Keegan is far and away the better player early in their careers when talking about both sides of the ball.
Danny Ainge knows what he's doing. He's selling at a high while the Kings would be selling low. Wait until people see Keegan after another off season. He went about improving defense last off season and became an above average defender. This off season he is working on his playmaking. Let's just see how much he improves.
If he gets to around 18-19ppg (not a huge jump) on a more efficient clip along with the D, IMO, he wouldn't be far off Lauri on this squad in terms of overall value. Not trade value, just pure value to winning and losing.

[Jkam31]

You don't give up Keegan in a Lauri trade. When you factor in both sides of the ball Lauri isn't THAT much ahead of Keegan.
Different players yes, but give me the kid that can defend at a really good level.

you are vastly overrating Keegan. We're not serious trading partners because unless it's for Fox, we have nothing they'd want despite this report. Keegan is not anywhere near good enough nor are our future picks.

We're talking about a 23yo Keegan vs a 27yo Lauri though.
Yes Lauri is the far superior player right now. Keegan isn't far off when Lauri was the same age. He had the green light in his second season and scored 18ppg on 15 shots. Outside of that, Keegan is far and away the better player early in their careers when talking about both sides of the ball.
Danny Ainge knows what he's doing. He's selling at a high while the Kings would be selling low. Wait until people see Keegan after another off season. He went about improving defense last off season and became an above average defender. This off season he is working on his playmaking. Let's just see how much he improves.
If he gets to around 18-19ppg (not a huge jump) on a more efficient clip along with the D, IMO, he wouldn't be far off Lauri on this squad in terms of overall value. Not trade value, just pure value to winning and losing.

Teams high on on for a reason he won’t be traded just go get ingram give up whatever picks necessary. Hell trading for Kuzma could be enough for us to contend if Keegan and Ellis both take another leap

[blind prophet]

If we don't get Kuzma, Lavine, Ingram.....even if you don't want them too...

How do you feel about Michael Porter Jr from Denver?

They may take the depth of Barnes & Huerter without much draft compensation at all?

He makes a lot of money though, played 81 games last year but early career injury concerns.

[OGSactownballer]

you are vastly overrating Keegan. We're not serious trading partners because unless it's for Fox, we have nothing they'd want despite this report. Keegan is not anywhere near good enough nor are our future picks.

We're talking about a 23yo Keegan vs a 27yo Lauri though.
Yes Lauri is the far superior player right now. Keegan isn't far off when Lauri was the same age. He had the green light in his second season and scored 18ppg on 15 shots. Outside of that, Keegan is far and away the better player early in their careers when talking about both sides of the ball.
Danny Ainge knows what he's doing. He's selling at a high while the Kings would be selling low. Wait until people see Keegan after another off season. He went about improving defense last off season and became an above average defender. This off season he is working on his playmaking. Let's just see how much he improves.
If he gets to around 18-19ppg (not a huge jump) on a more efficient clip along with the D, IMO, he wouldn't be far off Lauri on this squad in terms of overall value. Not trade value, just pure value to winning and losing.

Teams high on on for a reason he won’t be traded just go get ingram give up whatever picks necessary. Hell trading for Kuzma could be enough for us to contend if Keegan and Ellis both take another leap

This is my feelings.

Be patient. Most of these guys are either not even to or just entering their prime. We have a couple of years at least until we hit a true “contention” window with any result possible in those couple of years from play in to conference finals. Heck nobody expected Dallas coming out of the West this year.

[LightTheBeam]

I'm 100% against trading Keegan or Keon.

That said, I'm also 100% against running it back like we stand now.

You can't convince me Keegan is needed in a trade for any of these guys outside of maybe stubborn Ainge with Lauri.

BI report has been they want us to find a 3rd team to send Huerter and get them a center. Huerter would have to be an extreme negative for us to not be able to pull that off.

Washington dumped Deni for 2 1sts, no shot they value Kuzma even half that. Barnes + a single first should get that done easily.

Nets clearly couldn't get a 1st for DFS during the draft. We can't get Jordi one of his vets + 2nds for DFS?

How about our MLE? Fontecchio, Okoro, Bridges, Kyle Anderson, Caleb Martin, Saddiq Freaking Bey... Just do something. Right now our backup wing is McDaniels, that's pathetic.

Monte is asleep at the wheel. Seems like FA/Trade market might be on hold since Lauri on the block was announced, I'll wait to see what happens there but if report is they want Keegan, Monte needs to leave those convos and move elsewhere ASAP.

[LightTheBeam]

If we don't get Kuzma, Lavine, Ingram.....even if you don't want them too...

How do you feel about Michael Porter Jr from Denver?

They may take the depth of Barnes & Huerter without much draft compensation at all?

He makes a lot of money though, played 81 games last year but early career injury concerns.

Of course.

I'd take MPJ over a few of the rumored guys. 6'10-6'11, good career rebounder + hits the 3.

If it wasn't for the injury, MPJ would probably be top 2 on my list. He stunts Keegan the least, but also provides almost everything we need from that spot. His defense is shaky, but IMO better than Barnes when he tries. Keegan can continue to develop on ball more, and we get 2 guys who are absolute snipers from the wings.

[codydaze]

I'm 100% against trading Keegan or Keon.

That said, I'm also 100% against running it back like we stand now.

You can't convince me Keegan is needed in a trade for any of these guys outside of maybe stubborn Ainge with Lauri.

BI report has been they want us to find a 3rd team to send Huerter and get them a center. Huerter would have to be an extreme negative for us to not be able to pull that off.

Washington dumped Deni for 2 1sts, no shot they value Kuzma even half that. Barnes + a single first should get that done easily.

Nets clearly couldn't get a 1st for DFS during the draft. We can't get Jordi one of his vets + 2nds for DFS?

How about our MLE? Fontecchio, Okoro, Bridges, Kyle Anderson, Caleb Martin, Saddiq Freaking Bey... Just do something. Right now our backup wing is McDaniels, that's pathetic.

Monte is asleep at the wheel. Seems like FA/Trade market might be on hold since Lauri on the block was announced, I'll wait to see what happens there but if report is they want Keegan, Monte needs to leave those convos and move elsewhere ASAP.

I'm against trading Keegan but if it took Keon to get Lauri, I would do that. It would hurt but I think Lauri would raise the floor on this team quite a bit.

Give me Kyle Anderson on the MLE too, I've always been a fan of his.

[LightTheBeam]

I'm 100% against trading Keegan or Keon.

That said, I'm also 100% against running it back like we stand now.

You can't convince me Keegan is needed in a trade for any of these guys outside of maybe stubborn Ainge with Lauri.

BI report has been they want us to find a 3rd team to send Huerter and get them a center. Huerter would have to be an extreme negative for us to not be able to pull that off.

Washington dumped Deni for 2 1sts, no shot they value Kuzma even half that. Barnes + a single first should get that done easily.

Nets clearly couldn't get a 1st for DFS during the draft. We can't get Jordi one of his vets + 2nds for DFS?

How about our MLE? Fontecchio, Okoro, Bridges, Kyle Anderson, Caleb Martin, Saddiq Freaking Bey... Just do something. Right now our backup wing is McDaniels, that's pathetic.

Monte is asleep at the wheel. Seems like FA/Trade market might be on hold since Lauri on the block was announced, I'll wait to see what happens there but if report is they want Keegan, Monte needs to leave those convos and move elsewhere ASAP.

I'm against trading Keegan but if it took Keon to get Lauri, I would do that. It would hurt but I think Lauri would raise the floor on this team quite a bit.

Give me Kyle Anderson on the MLE too, I've always been a fan of his.

If I knew Lauri was going to resign, well then 100% i'm doing that. But Lauri is a flight risk with us. I'd prefer to just stack the deal with picks and keep Keon if possible.

Anderson would be nice. Plenty of other options. I can only think we are waiting there to see who we grab on the trade market. If we get a bigger guy maybe we go more of a SF, and if we go an Ingram then we need a bigger guy probably.

[Jkam31]

We're talking about a 23yo Keegan vs a 27yo Lauri though.
Yes Lauri is the far superior player right now. Keegan isn't far off when Lauri was the same age. He had the green light in his second season and scored 18ppg on 15 shots. Outside of that, Keegan is far and away the better player early in their careers when talking about both sides of the ball.
Danny Ainge knows what he's doing. He's selling at a high while the Kings would be selling low. Wait until people see Keegan after another off season. He went about improving defense last off season and became an above average defender. This off season he is working on his playmaking. Let's just see how much he improves.
If he gets to around 18-19ppg (not a huge jump) on a more efficient clip along with the D, IMO, he wouldn't be far off Lauri on this squad in terms of overall value. Not trade value, just pure value to winning and losing.

Teams high on on for a reason he won’t be traded just go get ingram give up whatever picks necessary. Hell trading for Kuzma could be enough for us to contend if Keegan and Ellis both take another leap

This is my feelings.

Be patient. Most of these guys are either not even to or just entering their prime. We have a couple of years at least until we hit a true “contention” window with any result possible in those couple of years from play in to conference finals. Heck nobody expected Dallas coming out of the West this year.

The move needs to be made this off-season fox/Domas aren’t 22-25 and fox gets paid next year

[BoogieTime]

Going after DeRozan seems to be admitting defeat on multiple trade fronts. Adding salary making renegotiate/extend less likely with Lauri and would you need Ingram in that scenario?

[bibby1023]

I'm 100% against trading Keegan or Keon.

That said, I'm also 100% against running it back like we stand now.

You can't convince me Keegan is needed in a trade for any of these guys outside of maybe stubborn Ainge with Lauri.

BI report has been they want us to find a 3rd team to send Huerter and get them a center. Huerter would have to be an extreme negative for us to not be able to pull that off.

Washington dumped Deni for 2 1sts, no shot they value Kuzma even half that. Barnes + a single first should get that done easily.

Nets clearly couldn't get a 1st for DFS during the draft. We can't get Jordi one of his vets + 2nds for DFS?

How about our MLE? Fontecchio, Okoro, Bridges, Kyle Anderson, Caleb Martin, Saddiq Freaking Bey... Just do something. Right now our backup wing is McDaniels, that's pathetic.

Monte is asleep at the wheel. Seems like FA/Trade market might be on hold since Lauri on the block was announced, I'll wait to see what happens there but if report is they want Keegan, Monte needs to leave those convos and move elsewhere ASAP.

I'm against trading Keegan but if it took Keon to get Lauri, I would do that. It would hurt but I think Lauri would raise the floor on this team quite a bit.

Give me Kyle Anderson on the MLE too, I've always been a fan of his.

Would you put Keegan back on the table if it meant getting Lauri and Kessler? Because I think I would..

[LightTheBeam]

Going after DeRozan seems to be admitting defeat on multiple trade fronts. Adding salary making renegotiate/extend less likely with Lauri and would you need Ingram in that scenario?

I actually was thinking about him yesterday. Outside of 3pt shooting, DeRozan is probably better than Ingram at everything. Much more durable as well.

Trade Huerter for Beef Stew, sign DeRozan.

Fox - Monk
Keon - Carter
DeRozan - Barnes
Keegan - Lyles
Sabonis - Stewart

I really wouldn't mind this.

[LightTheBeam]

I'm 100% against trading Keegan or Keon.

That said, I'm also 100% against running it back like we stand now.

You can't convince me Keegan is needed in a trade for any of these guys outside of maybe stubborn Ainge with Lauri.

BI report has been they want us to find a 3rd team to send Huerter and get them a center. Huerter would have to be an extreme negative for us to not be able to pull that off.

Washington dumped Deni for 2 1sts, no shot they value Kuzma even half that. Barnes + a single first should get that done easily.

Nets clearly couldn't get a 1st for DFS during the draft. We can't get Jordi one of his vets + 2nds for DFS?

How about our MLE? Fontecchio, Okoro, Bridges, Kyle Anderson, Caleb Martin, Saddiq Freaking Bey... Just do something. Right now our backup wing is McDaniels, that's pathetic.

Monte is asleep at the wheel. Seems like FA/Trade market might be on hold since Lauri on the block was announced, I'll wait to see what happens there but if report is they want Keegan, Monte needs to leave those convos and move elsewhere ASAP.

I'm against trading Keegan but if it took Keon to get Lauri, I would do that. It would hurt but I think Lauri would raise the floor on this team quite a bit.

Give me Kyle Anderson on the MLE too, I've always been a fan of his.

Would you put Keegan back on the table if it meant getting Lauri and Kessler? Because I think I would..

Honestly, zero interest in Kessler. He can't play with Sabonis. Sure he's a shot blocker off the bench, but this doesn't solve our lack of wing issue. He's a Len upgrade for sure, but not one I'm sacrificing Keegan for.

[BoogieTime]

I'm 100% against trading Keegan or Keon.

That said, I'm also 100% against running it back like we stand now.

You can't convince me Keegan is needed in a trade for any of these guys outside of maybe stubborn Ainge with Lauri.

BI report has been they want us to find a 3rd team to send Huerter and get them a center. Huerter would have to be an extreme negative for us to not be able to pull that off.

Washington dumped Deni for 2 1sts, no shot they value Kuzma even half that. Barnes + a single first should get that done easily.

Nets clearly couldn't get a 1st for DFS during the draft. We can't get Jordi one of his vets + 2nds for DFS?

How about our MLE? Fontecchio, Okoro, Bridges, Kyle Anderson, Caleb Martin, Saddiq Freaking Bey... Just do something. Right now our backup wing is McDaniels, that's pathetic.

Monte is asleep at the wheel. Seems like FA/Trade market might be on hold since Lauri on the block was announced, I'll wait to see what happens there but if report is they want Keegan, Monte needs to leave those convos and move elsewhere ASAP.

I'm against trading Keegan but if it took Keon to get Lauri, I would do that. It would hurt but I think Lauri would raise the floor on this team quite a bit.

Give me Kyle Anderson on the MLE too, I've always been a fan of his.

Would you put Keegan back on the table if it meant getting Lauri and Kessler? Because I think I would..

yes, but Utah would want picks too.. and they need to eat our salary to allow for renefotiate/extend

[LightTheBeam]

Going after DeRozan seems to be admitting defeat on multiple trade fronts. Adding salary making renegotiate/extend less likely with Lauri and would you need Ingram in that scenario?

I actually was thinking about him yesterday. Outside of 3pt shooting, DeRozan is probably better than Ingram at everything. Much more durable as well.

Trade Huerter for Beef Stew, sign DeRozan.

Fox - Monk
Keon - Carter
DeRozan - Barnes
Keegan - Lyles
Sabonis - Stewart

I really wouldn't mind this.

This adds a legit guy to the team at no cost. We get better in the short term, and can wait until Huerter/Barnes are expirings and hopefully our pick to ATL is paid to really go all in.

[codydaze]

I'm 100% against trading Keegan or Keon.

That said, I'm also 100% against running it back like we stand now.

You can't convince me Keegan is needed in a trade for any of these guys outside of maybe stubborn Ainge with Lauri.

BI report has been they want us to find a 3rd team to send Huerter and get them a center. Huerter would have to be an extreme negative for us to not be able to pull that off.

Washington dumped Deni for 2 1sts, no shot they value Kuzma even half that. Barnes + a single first should get that done easily.

Nets clearly couldn't get a 1st for DFS during the draft. We can't get Jordi one of his vets + 2nds for DFS?

How about our MLE? Fontecchio, Okoro, Bridges, Kyle Anderson, Caleb Martin, Saddiq Freaking Bey... Just do something. Right now our backup wing is McDaniels, that's pathetic.

Monte is asleep at the wheel. Seems like FA/Trade market might be on hold since Lauri on the block was announced, I'll wait to see what happens there but if report is they want Keegan, Monte needs to leave those convos and move elsewhere ASAP.

I'm against trading Keegan but if it took Keon to get Lauri, I would do that. It would hurt but I think Lauri would raise the floor on this team quite a bit.

Give me Kyle Anderson on the MLE too, I've always been a fan of his.

Would you put Keegan back on the table if it meant getting Lauri and Kessler? Because I think I would..

I feel the same as LightTheBeam, in a vacuum the addition of Kessler would be worth it but for us and how we play, I don't think he'd be a great fit and would be like a 15 mpg player behind Sabo since they can't really play together. The only way I would consider that is if Kessler is being routed somewhere else for something coming our way, I just don't know who that player would be.

[codydaze]

Going after DeRozan seems to be admitting defeat on multiple trade fronts. Adding salary making renegotiate/extend less likely with Lauri and would you need Ingram in that scenario?

I actually was thinking about him yesterday. Outside of 3pt shooting, DeRozan is probably better than Ingram at everything. Much more durable as well.

Trade Huerter for Beef Stew, sign DeRozan.

Fox - Monk
Keon - Carter
DeRozan - Barnes
Keegan - Lyles
Sabonis - Stewart

I really wouldn't mind this.

This adds a legit guy to the team at no cost. We get better in the short term, and can wait until Huerter/Barnes are expirings and hopefully our pick to ATL is paid to really go all in.

I'd be fine with this too. I would try to target Wendell Carter over Stewart, Orlando bringing back Goga and Mo Wagner makes it seem like Wendell might be on the way out, especially with them extending Isaac. I like his fit a lot better even though I'm a big Stewart fan.