Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Mik317]

don't know where I heard or saw it but I don't think PG wants to play the 4 lol

[Jailblazers7]

Asking PG and Embiid to shoulder so much rebounding responsibility is a recipe for disaster given their injury histories. We should be finding ways to reduce their physical burdens.

[stormi]

[Only analyzing players that qualify a playoffs minutes threshold]

Final four teams:

Celtics: [White 6'5, Holiday 6'5, Brown 6'6,] Hauser 6'8, Tatum 6'10, Horford 6'10, Porzingis 7'2, Kornet 7'2
Mavericks: Jones Jr 6'6, Kleber 6'10, Gafford 6'10, Washington 6'10, Lively 7'1
Pacers: Siakam 6'9, Toppin 6'10, Turner 6'11
Timberwolves: McDaniels 6'9, Towns 7'0, Gobert 7'1, Reid 6'9, Anderson 6'9

Previous champions:

2023: Braun 6'7, J Green 6'8, MPJ 6'10, Gordon 6'8, Jokic 7'0
2022: Wiggins 6'8, D Green 6'6, Looney 6'9, OPJ 6'8, Bjelica 6'10
2021: Middleton 6'7, Tucker 6'5 lol, Portis 6'10, Antetokounmpo 6'11, Lopez 7'1
2020: James 6'9, Davis 6'10, Kuzma 6'9, Morris 6'9, Howard 6'11, Javale 7'0

Primary + Secondary rim protectors:

Horford, Porzingis, Kornet
Kleber, Gafford, Washington, Lively
Siakam, Toppin, Turner
McDaniels, Towns, Rudy, Naz Reid, Anderson
Gordon, Jokic
Green, Looney, Bjelica
Tucker (lol), Portis, Giannis, Lopez
Davis, Howard, Javale

2024 76ers in totality as currently constructed

Maxey 6'2, McCain 6'2, Council 6'6, Oubre 6'7, George 6'8, Embiid 7'2, Reed 6'9, Drummond 7'0

Our situation is a unique though, because our only real size other than Embiid can't play when he's on the floor.

This is unlike Giannis with Lopez + Portis, or Jokic with MPJ + Gordon.

This leaves us with:

Maxey 6'2, McCain 6'2, Council 6'6, Oubre 6'7, George 6'8, Embiid 7'2

Primary + Secondary rim protectors:

Embiid

There is an abundant need for another tall forward that can play alongside Embiid and provide interior defending.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Grant Williams

[SixthStreet]

There also seems to be no market for Hield. Something didn't look right with his movement towards the end of the year so if the Sixers know there may have been a nagging injury it might be worth bringing him back for the vet minimum or a little higher.

[Kobblehead]

Asking PG and Embiid to shoulder so much rebounding responsibility is a recipe for disaster given their injury histories. We should be finding ways to reduce their physical burdens.

It's far less taxing to play the 4 than it is to play the 2 and 3 and constantly be put in motion covering all the early clock action. That's why all the big wings play the 4 in their mid-30s.

There's very few teams that play big in the frontcourt where we would have to switchup our lineup at slide George to the SF spot.

[stormi]

don't know where I heard or saw it but I don't think PG wants to play the 4 lol

Fairly certain I saw that as well. And it's because he's obviously not a 4.

It literally makes no sense.

[Kobblehead]

There also seems to be no market for Hield. Something didn't look right with his movement towards the end of the year so if the Sixers know there may have been a nagging injury it might be worth bringing him back for the vet minimum or a little higher.

I doubt it, based on bringing in Eric Gordon and drafting Jared McCain. Two guys that project to fill the same function we envisioned for Buddy initially.

[Kobblehead]

Grant Williams

Oh look, another big wing that plays 79% of his minutes at the 4.

Williams would be motivated to help take down Boston, but he's not impactful to give up a pick for IMO.

[stormi]

Also it's not about height, it's about line-up versatility.

That isn't to say George can't give minutes at the 4 depending on the line-up, but you have to be flexible enough to match up for when the Celtics/Nuggets/Thunder decide to pack on the size and without sacrificing shooting.

We've distinctly lost two playoff series in recent history due to this very dilemma.

Toronto G7 2019: Nurse decides to run Ibaka alongside Gasol in place of Green. Ibaka kills us on the glass that game and we lose on the margins [Paul George four minutes don't alter the course of history].

Boston 2022: Mazzulla counters to double big after going down in the series. Embiid is overwhelmed being tasked with anchoring the entire defense, having to mark Horford and Williams, PNR perimeter switches and the ever present threat of the lob [Paul George four minutes don't alter the course of history].

Not having an intangibles player with size that could give winning minutes at the 4 is setting Embiid up for failure before the season even kicks off.

The Pelicans guys are the dream gets, Murphy or Jones. Likely impossible to pry.

Lauri Bird is unattainable.

I've warmed up to the idea of Finney-Smith as an intangibles guy and he can really shoot the ball.

John Collins is ever mentioned around here as an athletic big F that can do a little bit of it all.

Would have loved Nico Batum back for that role.

Bobby Portis is another perfect fit in theory.

And then there are a whole heap of guys that I could see filling in that role: Aldama, Kleber, Chris Boucher, Anderson (rip), Grant (rip), Watford, Kuzma.

Completely unique archetypes from Paul George the wing scorer.

[FireMorey]

Two teams have gotten rid of Grant Williams already. Might be wise to wonder why.

[Kobblehead]

Still holding out hope for a Caleb Martin signing. Our starting 5 would be phenomenal.

[Kobblehead]

We don't need any more bigs or munchkins. We need guys with size that can play SG and SF minutes. Martin would be great,

[Ben]

I just don’t understand the fascination with DFS that I see from some posters here. Don’t see how he’s necessarily an upgrade on Reed.

I don't understand the fascination either, but the upgrade over Reed is about 600 points of 3PAr.

You're right of course, and I get that one difference: 3P volume. The funny thing to me, though, is that DFS isn't particularly good at the thing he does in volume. For each of the past 2 seasons DFS has converted 3 pointers at a % below the league average, but has launched them at a rate (3PAr) that's far higher than the league average. And that's the one thing for which he's supposedly noteworthy. Reed is much better at rebound rate, steal rate, block rate, better at drawing free throws and better at TS%...

It reminds me of the classic SNL commercial parody of the "First Citiwide Change Bank", the bank that simply makes change. A $20 bill for two tens, four fives, or a ten and two fives. A $50 bill for 50 singles. Wrinkled ten dollar bills for crisp new ten dollar bills.

And at the end of the clip Jim Downey says, "All the time our customers ask us: how do you make money doing this? The answer is simple: Volume." (The first clip is here. So awesome.)

[FireMorey]

I don’t think Martin is happening I read the Heat have offered him 12m per season and are still negotiating to keep him. The Sixers can’t fit that unless it’s a sign and trade and at that point they might as well pursue superior targets if they’re going to be hard capped.

[sixers hoops]

Also it's not about height, it's about line-up versatility.

That isn't to say George can't give minutes at the 4 depending on the line-up, but you have to be flexible enough to match up for when the Celtics/Nuggets/Thunder deciding to pack on the size and without sacrificing shooting.

We've distinctly lost two playoff series in recent history due to this very dilemma.

Toronto G7 2019: Nurse decides to run Ibaka alongside Gasol in place of Green. Ibaka kills us that game and we lose on the margins [Paul George four minutes don't alter the course of history].

Boston 2022: Mazzulla counters to double big after going down in the series. Embiid is overwhelmed being tasked with anchoring the entire defense, having to mark Horford and Williams, PNR perimeter switches and the ever present threat of the lob [Paul George four minutes don't alter the course of history].

Not having an intangibles player with size that could give winning minutes at the 4 is setting Embiid up for failure before the season even kicks off.

The Pelicans guys are the dream gets, Murphy or Jones. Likely impossible to pry.

Lauri Bird is unattainable.

I've warmed up to the idea of Finney-Smith as an intangibles guy and he can really shoot the ball.

John Collins is ever mentioned around here as an athletic big F that can do a little bit of it all.

Would have loved Nico Batum back for that role.

Bobby Portis is another perfect fit in theory.

And then there are a whole heap of guys that I could see filling in that role: Kleber, Chris Boucher, Anderson (rip), Grant (rip), Watford, Kuzma.

Completely separate archetypes from Paul George.

They definitely have to get a more traditional power forward to play big minutes depending on the matchup. I think they will go small a lot, but there are matchups where you’ll need a bigger defender.

[Black Mage]

We don't need any more bigs or munchkins. We need guys with size that can play SG and SF minutes. Martin would be great,

I'm hoping for Lonnie Walker at vet min. Would be a nice versatile piece that could come off the bench.

[FireMorey]

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What could the Sixers possibly get for Hield? And how does this affect the cap?

[Mik317]

has to be a forward no?

[sixers hoops]

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What could the Sixers possibly get for Hield? And how does this affect the cap?

Interesting