Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Ben]

3 way and we get PJ Tucker back

Too soon.

[the_process]

How could they possibly structure the offseason where they could keep Buddy's cap hold in order to trade him for something, and then still drop under the cap by 55M in order to sign PG and Drummond outright?

Wil they trade Buddy first, then waive the players who’s capholds are retrictive?

The trade for Buddy would definitely be 1st on their list. But if they are taking anything at all back, which I imagine they have to be because GSW doesn't have any cap room... it would have to be someone pretty cheap and then a big salary to a third team that still has cap space?

Wouldn't mind having Moses Moody in the guard rotation. He only makes 5.8M. They can probably add him without incident. Then the question becomes who is taking Wiggins. Because I have to imagine he's the big contract they want to unload.

[Black Mage]

Popped over to the Dubs board; most are speculating it's one of Looney, Moody or GP2. Not too much chatter for them, but a few seem miffed if Moody is included.

[Black Mage]

I mean, maybe they would move Kuminga. They just signed Kyle Anderson and they have Draymond. They have some young guy Trayce Jackson that they might see as a cost effective option. Kuminga would fit right into Reed's salary slot.

The last report is that one of the reasons they didn't got PG was because they didn't want to include Kuminga on the trade.

If that's true there is no way they're sending Kuminga for Reed.

The reporting I heard/read said Kuminga was in the deal, but Clips wanted more draft compensation and Dubs were trying to keep powder dry.

[76ciology]

Popped over to the Dubs board; most are speculating it's one of Looney, Moody or GP2. Not too much chatter for them, but a few seem miffed if Moody is included.

Then shipped with Reed to Nets for DFS. Done

Or probably do the KJ Martin idea, then trade for Draymond.

[sixers hoops]

How could they possibly structure the offseason where they could keep Buddy's cap hold in order to trade him for something, and then still drop under the cap by 55M in order to sign PG and Drummond outright?

Wil they trade Buddy first, then waive the players who’s capholds are retrictive?

The trade for Buddy would definitely be 1st on their list. But if they are taking anything at all back, which I imagine they have to be because GSW doesn't have any cap room... it would have to be someone pretty cheap and then a big salary to a third team that still has cap space?

Wouldn't mind having Moses Moody in the guard rotation. He only makes 5.8M. They can probably add him without incident. Then the question becomes who is taking Wiggins. Because I have to imagine he's the big contract they want to unload.

If it is Gui,then he makes 1.8 which is the caphold for a roster spot, so it would break even. And if GS absorbs him into a traded player exception, wouldn’t they be able to do the deal straight up? Although, Hollinger mentioned a five team mega deal.

[the_process]

Popped over to the Dubs board; most are speculating it's one of Looney, Moody or GP2. Not too much chatter for them, but a few seem miffed if Moody is included.

Sixers should have zero interest in Looney or GP2. Definitely should be interested in Moody. Or if Golden State would rather send over Podziemski, that'll work too.

[FireMorey]

I don't get the obsession with DFS.

[stormi]

Popped over to the Dubs board; most are speculating it's one of Looney, Moody or GP2. Not too much chatter for them, but a few seem miffed if Moody is included.

Sixers should have zero interest in Looney or GP2. Definitely should be interested in Moody. Or if Golden State would rather send over Podziemski, that'll work too.

I would love Podz, but there's just no shot.

[Black Mage]

If Kuminga was available would you want to sacrifice first round picks for him? If this is part of a larger Lauri trade, Ainge is going to want draft picks more than a player. Ainge survived a long time selling "the future."

PS: A dark part of my soul would like this to happen just so Clippers fans see us get PG13 AND Kuminga, while using their picks to do it.

[the_process]

Wil they trade Buddy first, then waive the players who’s capholds are retrictive?

The trade for Buddy would definitely be 1st on their list. But if they are taking anything at all back, which I imagine they have to be because GSW doesn't have any cap room... it would have to be someone pretty cheap and then a big salary to a third team that still has cap space?

Wouldn't mind having Moses Moody in the guard rotation. He only makes 5.8M. They can probably add him without incident. Then the question becomes who is taking Wiggins. Because I have to imagine he's the big contract they want to unload.

If it is Gui,then he makes 1.8 which is the caphold for a roster spot, so it would break even. And if GS absorbs him into a traded player exception, wouldn’t they be able to do the deal straight up? Although, Hollinger mentioned a five team mega deal.

Yep, GSW has a 15M exception from trading Klay to Dallas they can use for Hield. And Gui Santos (whoever that is) is basically the same cost as a cap hold, so that would work. Morey should absolutely ask for a pick to even be bothered to do this, however.

What did Hollinger say about a mega deal?

[FireMorey]

Kuminga isn’t available the Warriors refused to trade him for PG and lost out on him because of that. They’re certainly aren’t trading him for Hield.

[Black Mage]

The trade for Buddy would definitely be 1st on their list. But if they are taking anything at all back, which I imagine they have to be because GSW doesn't have any cap room... it would have to be someone pretty cheap and then a big salary to a third team that still has cap space?

Wouldn't mind having Moses Moody in the guard rotation. He only makes 5.8M. They can probably add him without incident. Then the question becomes who is taking Wiggins. Because I have to imagine he's the big contract they want to unload.

If it is Gui,then he makes 1.8 which is the caphold for a roster spot, so it would break even. And if GS absorbs him into a traded player exception, wouldn’t they be able to do the deal straight up? Although, Hollinger mentioned a five team mega deal.

Yep, GSW has a 15M exception from trading Klay to Dallas they can use for Hield. And Gui Santos (whoever that is) is basically the same cost as a cap hold, so that would work. Morey should absolutely ask for a pick to even be bothered to do this, however.

What did Hollinger say about a mega deal?

They used 9 mil of that for Kyle Anderson.

[sixers hoops]

The trade for Buddy would definitely be 1st on their list. But if they are taking anything at all back, which I imagine they have to be because GSW doesn't have any cap room... it would have to be someone pretty cheap and then a big salary to a third team that still has cap space?

Wouldn't mind having Moses Moody in the guard rotation. He only makes 5.8M. They can probably add him without incident. Then the question becomes who is taking Wiggins. Because I have to imagine he's the big contract they want to unload.

If it is Gui,then he makes 1.8 which is the caphold for a roster spot, so it would break even. And if GS absorbs him into a traded player exception, wouldn’t they be able to do the deal straight up? Although, Hollinger mentioned a five team mega deal.

Yep, GSW has a 15M exception from trading Klay to Dallas they can use for Hield. And Gui Santos (whoever that is) is basically the same cost as a cap hold, so that would work. Morey should absolutely ask for a pick to even be bothered to do this, however.

What did Hollinger say about a mega deal?

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[the_process]

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EDIT: NM, the jist is using this Gui fellow with Reed to get a guy like Huerter or LeVert. Because you can aggregate a guy who you acquire with cap space immediately.

Yes to Huerter. No to LeVert. Yes to DFS, who is in that same salary range.

[the_process]

If it is Gui,then he makes 1.8 which is the caphold for a roster spot, so it would break even. And if GS absorbs him into a traded player exception, wouldn’t they be able to do the deal straight up? Although, Hollinger mentioned a five team mega deal.

Yep, GSW has a 15M exception from trading Klay to Dallas they can use for Hield. And Gui Santos (whoever that is) is basically the same cost as a cap hold, so that would work. Morey should absolutely ask for a pick to even be bothered to do this, however.

What did Hollinger say about a mega deal?

They used 9 mil of that for Kyle Anderson.

Well they will have to tie this in with their S&T of Klay to Dallas, then.

[the_process]

What is KJM’s max deal? 25%?

[Murray_17]

Well they will have to tie this in with their S&T of Klay to Dallas, then.

That's what Hollinger is speculating, which is why he says it would be a five-team deal

[76ciology]

“If the Golden State Warriors send Gui Santos to Philadelphia and sign second-round pick Quinten Post to a rookie minimum deal, that leaves them about $14 million under the tax apron for Buddy Hield. But the only way I can see to import him at that salary is to incorporate Hield and Kyle Anderson into the same sign-and-trade that sent Klay Thompson outbound, turning it into a five-team mega trade between Charlotte, Dallas, Minnesota, Golden State and Philadelphia. Why Santos? Philadelphia acquiring him into cap space would mean the Sixers could aggregate him into a trade immediately. That, perhaps, would allow them to combine his salary and Paul Reed’s to acquire a player not attainable with Reed's salary alone, such as Cleveland's Caris LeVert or Sacramento's Kevin Huerter.”

DFS get it done so we all can sleep until season opener

[stormi]

“If the Golden State Warriors send Gui Santos to Philadelphia and sign second-round pick Quinten Post to a rookie minimum deal, that leaves them about $14 million under the tax apron for Buddy Hield. But the only way I can see to import him at that salary is to incorporate Hield and Kyle Anderson into the same sign-and-trade that sent Klay Thompson outbound, turning it into a five-team mega trade between Charlotte, Dallas, Minnesota, Golden State and Philadelphia. Why Santos? Philadelphia acquiring him into cap space would mean the Sixers could aggregate him into a trade immediately. That, perhaps, would allow them to combine his salary and Paul Reed’s to acquire a player not attainable with Reed's salary alone, such as Cleveland's Caris LeVert or Sacramento's Kevin Huerter.”

DFS get it done so we all can sleep until season opener

Are you settling for DFS, or is he someone that you actively want?