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Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0

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Post#161 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:07 pm

Beenie wrote:Lonzo Ball’s expiring (20m) and white’s valued contract (2 years 12m per)

For Herro and J rich


Coby >>> Herro

But it is the Bulls and they just traded Caruso for Giddey without receiving 1 of the 20+ 1st the Thunder own so who knows. They’re idiots
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Post#162 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:08 pm

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Cross them out for Derozan I’m assuming


52 million per year for 40 year old Lebron is considered taking less?


Think he was going to take less if they had something in the works to improve the team, regardless of age he’s still top 10
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Post#163 » by greg4012 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:20 pm

Thread should have been titled Heat Fan Group Therapy Session - Let it All Out
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Post#164 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:29 pm

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Post#165 » by wade44 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:33 pm

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Cross them out for Derozan I’m assuming


52 million per year for 40 year old Lebron is considered taking less?


Think he was going to take less if they had something in the works to improve the team, regardless of age he’s still top 10


He’s still top 10 based on what? Name value?
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Post#166 » by HeatFan_NC » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:37 pm

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Post#167 » by heater4life » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:44 pm

As much as fans are giving this organization a hard time, I think many don’t understand how much this tax apron is changing the landscape of the league.

With new changes to the tax system, moves we made in the past of acquiring Jimmy or assemblling the BIG 3 would be unlikely if not impossible.

It’s not just taxation , you’re completely handcuffed from building a roster. Via trade or FA acquisition.

Teams that have been rebuilding into the change will be in a better position than those that have been competing into it. Unfortunately that’s where we are stuck.
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Post#168 » by Flash4thewin » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:46 pm

The proposed OKC trades make no real sense for them. Jimmy is not the player they need or want. Bam makes sense, he fits there core player, the right age, he brings the right skills etc.

As for the Hornets, guys you realize if they had any, any, ANY interest in Herro we could have done a Herro for Terry swap, saved millions on the tax and had Lowry and his 30 mil expire getting us out of our self inflicted cap mess and we keep our pick. Pretty safe to say they dont value Herro more than cap space and a first round draft pick.
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Post#169 » by wade44 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:46 pm

heater4life wrote:As much as fans are giving this organization a hard time, I think many don’t understand how much this tax apron is changing the landscape of the league.

With new changes to the tax system, moves we made in the past of acquiring Jimmy or assemblling the BIG 3 would be unlikely if not impossible.

It’s not just taxation , you’re completely handcuffed from building a roster. Via trade or FA acquisition.

Teams that have been rebuilding into the change will be in a better position than those that have been competing into it. Unfortunately that’s where we are stuck.


Didn’t help that these new rules came into effect shortly after we gave Herro his deal and a year after Duncan’s deal
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Post#170 » by Vertical Limit » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:47 pm

Im okay with derozan here, but it has to be a 2 year deal, if theres a third year it needs to be team option.. and Herro has got to go on that s&t. We ride out the squad and have everyone except bam expire by 2026.. and then be the top free agent destination in 2026. Enough of this nonsense.

If its remotely possible to get draft picks for Butler, Herro and Duncan, we need to get on that too, we need all the chips we can get. and we can sign a few stop gap players here and there that expire by 2026. But enough is enough, we cant be this treadmilling franchise. 2026 has to be our reset.

We cant be a team that is over the cap, flirting with second, third apron with 3 max players and one overpaid one dimensional three point shooter, and only one of those 4 being Bam can get you multiple firsts.
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Post#171 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:56 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
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52 million per year for 40 year old Lebron is considered taking less?


Think he was going to take less if they had something in the works to improve the team, regardless of age he’s still top 10


He’s still top 10 based on what? Name value?


Name 10 players that are without a doubt better than him lol
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Post#172 » by Flash4thewin » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:57 pm

Something to consider, remember Mitchell and Bam both signed a 3 year deal or will sign that deal in Bam part.

Why?

So they both qualify for the opportunity to reach the NBA's 10-year service criteria, which would allow them to pursue a five-year extension potentially exceeding $380 million in 2027. That means we would be paying Bam over 75 mil a year. Just food for thought. If one thinks Bam will be worth that type of money, no problem.
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Post#173 » by twix2500 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:58 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Summer League roster

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Alondes Williams
Zyon Pullin
Pelle Larsson
Isaiah Stevens
Bryson Warren

Forwards
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Keshad Johnson

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Kel'El Wsre
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Whens the 1st game?


July 6th vs Golden State Warriors
July 7th vs Sacramento Kings
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Post#174 » by twix2500 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:59 pm

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Post#175 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:01 pm

Day 1: Love signing
Day 2: “Dru Smith” signing
Day 3: Derozan interest
Day 4: ?????

We’re COOKING, some of Pats best work en route
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Post#176 » by dolphinatik » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:01 pm

I don't think any nba player is worth that kinda money. More than some countries gdp. That's why celtics are for sale they don't want to be there when that money becomes due.
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Post#177 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:02 pm

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This rookie class is going to leave it’s mark.
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Post#178 » by eddieheatfan » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:04 pm

twix2500 wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Summer League roster

Gaurds
Alondes Williams
Zyon Pullin
Pelle Larsson
Isaiah Stevens
Bryson Warren

Forwards
Cole Swider
Keshad Johnson

Center
Kel'El Wsre
Warren Washington


Whens the 1st game?


July 6th vs Golden State Warriors
July 7th vs Sacramento Kings
will you guys make a thread about it?
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Post#179 » by greg4012 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:04 pm

Kel'el Ware plays basketball on Saturday

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Post#180 » by ZoStrong » Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:05 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:The proposed OKC trades make no real sense for them. Jimmy is not the player they need or want. Bam makes sense, he fits there core player, the right age, he brings the right skills etc.

As for the Hornets, guys you realize if they had any, any, ANY interest in Herro we could have done a Herro for Terry swap, saved millions on the tax and had Lowry and his 30 mil expire getting us out of our self inflicted cap mess and we keep our pick. Pretty safe to say they dont value Herro more than cap space and a first round draft pick.


OKC got Homegren and just signed Hartenstein, I don't think they have a room or a need for Bam. But would you do Hartenstein plus 4 firsts for Bam? when he becomes eligible to trade that is

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