OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Dadouv47]

yeah we are the favorites to win the West by the books by a small margin and it's pretty normal given how the offseason worked so far. Could Presti make another small trade for us to improve a bit more? Sure, I would love that but I don't like the odds. A player like DFS is likely cheap and could be a good option coming off the bench depending on match ups.

[Mr Thunder Nick]

DFS is nearly the only player I would add to the standing roster this off-season. He would fill in a role-player which we miss today. But than I don't see any future for Kendrich with OKC.

[Bremzi]

It seems that the only reason Presti traded a guy was when he was certain that the player in question has no role on the team (i.e. not getting the playing time aka TMann, Micic) or simply isnt good enough/does not fit (Giddey, Bazley etc). Hayward will be let go for the same reason.

All the current guys on the roster are guys who fit or have performed well. Cason did so, Dort did so, Joe and Wiggins did alright and received extensions, Kenrich typically did well as well. Perhaps they didnt stand out as much but they’re mostly young.

They get along well with the team, they play as a team, they accept their roles and arent overly expensive. They’re also young and can further improve.

Kizz has so many propositions for trades, but realistically, these guys aren’t getting moved for mediocre other role players for whom there is no guarantee that they will fit on and off the court.

The only reason Presti trades 1,2,3 of them is if a legit star becomes available that’s seen as a perfect fit. I think Lauri and not many others around the league fit that criteria tbh. Even then, such a trade is difficult not knowing how to pay for the current big3 and another star.

Unless proven otherwise in the next year, where it would be clear that a player has issues on the court and does not fit, I don’t think anything will be made from here on out until the trade deadline.

To be honest, all the positions are covered. The backup center is Jaylin, he does alright and either way, Chet and Hartenstein can play the five anyway. Maybe a 6th man type of scorer is missing, there’s not that many of those anyway. Jordan Clarkson is one but I think his contract is too expensive.

[Devilanche]

I think there’s obvious gaps on the roster still but I’m ok trying to see if current option can grow into it.

Will revisit in December / trade deadline most likely .

[ThunderBolt]

My Isaac dream ended yesterday. It's probably for the best.

[Clav]

My Isaac dream ended yesterday. It's probably for the best.

His contract is descending as well, it would be a great basketball fit.

[Xatticus]

My Isaac dream ended yesterday. It's probably for the best.

My guess would be that they were targeting Hartenstein, but missed out. They must've had grander plans than to add KCP and re-sign their bench. Whatever they were after, they struck out after KCP.

[Kizz Fastfists]

My Isaac dream ended yesterday. It's probably for the best.

That made very little sense for Orlando unless they are intending to trade a WCJ for a PG. Banchero, WCJ, Isaac, Mortiz, Bitadze and da Silva. They just re-signed/extended everyone except Banchero, still on his rookie deal, and WCJ. Only Black and Anthony as their PGs. They have a decent supply of quality wings as well. Their hole at PG is bigger than OKC's big man hole was a week ago.

[slick_watts]

My Isaac dream ended yesterday. It's probably for the best.

That made very little sense for Orlando unless they are intending to trade a WCJ for a PG. Banchero, WCJ, Isaac, Mortiz, Bitadze and da Silva. They just re-signed/extended everyone except Banchero, still on his rookie deal, and WCJ. Only Black and Anthony as their PGs. They have a decent supply of quality wings as well. Their hole at PG is bigger than OKC's big man hole was a week ago.

i think they had plans for their cap space that didn't come to fruition so they just signed everyone.

[Devilanche]

My Isaac dream ended yesterday. It's probably for the best.

My guess would be that they were targeting Hartenstein, but missed out. They must've had grander plans than to add KCP and re-sign their bench. Whatever they were after, they struck out after KCP.

Doubt it. Didn’t even hear them trying to set a meeting .

Seems to be PG or bust .

[Bremzi]

Any chance there is a sign and trade with the Bulls for Derozan as a 6th man type of guy? To be honest, he could also play a starter role if needed. One of the best to create for himself and can hit the midrange aswell.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Any chance there is a sign and trade with the Bulls for Derozan as a 6th man type of guy? To be honest, he could also play a starter role if needed. One of the best to create for himself and can hit the midrange aswell.

Not if OKC has championship goals. If they want to ensure they stay well behind Minny and Dallas it would be an acceptable destruction of the roster. OKC needs players that will contribute to winning not players who have supposedly been the best player on their team with negative on-off differentials for their career and are under the false impression that they are good players.

If we assume OKC has a competent coach we must also assume that DeRozen would be a cheerleader, because OKC has so many better guards/wings in front of him that there is no playing time for him. Of course, if we had assumed OKC had a competent coach after the Hayward trade we would have assumed there would be no playing time for him. So it is likely that DeRozen could come in, get significant playing time and cost OKC some games and destroy them in the playoffs worse than Giddey did because they won't bench DeRozen because ESPN says he is a good player because he make an occasional highlight play.

[slick_watts]

demar derozan is one of the few high scoring players who saw their FTr rise in 2023-24. i think he could be a great get for a team looking for a reliable possession saver, someone who can create league average or better offensive possessions out of nothing which he has done consistently over the last 10 seasons. he is definitely not as bad as kizz says- kizz has insane and polarized basketball opinions, but he is probably not the best fit for our team unless he'd accept a severely reduced role off the bench as a reserve scorer. maybe in a couple years.

[Clav]

I'm not in favor of Derozan signing here, but would accept that he's probably the 4th best player on our team if he does join. He raises the floor for his steady midrange offense that can help a balanced attack, but it also takes touches away from our guys.

I'm leaning no for Demar, but I do respect his game and he's been a very solid player for a long time.

[Andre Roberstan]

demar derozan is one of the few high scoring players who saw their FTr rise in 2023-24. i think he could be a great get for a team looking for a reliable possession saver, someone who can create league average or better offensive possessions out of nothing which he has done consistently over the last 10 seasons. he is definitely not as bad as kizz says- kizz has insane and polarized basketball opinions, but he is probably not the best fit for our team unless he'd accept a severely reduced role off the bench as a reserve scorer. maybe in a couple years.

This is where I'm at too. Pretty much completely. I don't love DDR, but I think at this point the noise around him is a little overblown.

[getrichordie]

I just want to say that we should be pretty effing excited about Dillon Jones. I think the kid is going to make an impact this season when given the opportunity. I know Topic went 12 but wouldn't surprise me at all if Jones outshines Topic during their tenure with the Thunder. If he buys in on defense, he's going to be a two-way monster with that huge frame and those long arms. Small 4 type who can definitely play the 3 and 2 in certain looks. Great pick up by Presti & co.

[retrobro90]

Could we be the 3rd team in a derozan to sac trade? Barnes would be a nice fit

[Kizz Fastfists]

Could we be the 3rd team in a derozan to sac trade? Barnes would be a nice fit

OKC would have to send Dort to Chicago to cover the salary so I don't see how it makes sense for OKC. Alternatively, Kenrich, Dieng and Cason would work for salary matching. I'd imagine Chicago would be good with Kenrich, Dieng and Cason to facilitate a S&T for DeRozan. I don't think it would make sense to trade Cason or Dort for DeRozan.

[retrobro90]

Could we be the 3rd team in a derozan to sac trade? Barnes would be a nice fit

OKC would have to send Dort to Chicago to cover the salary so I don't see how it makes sense for OKC. Alternatively, Kenrich, Dieng and Cason would work for salary matching. I'd imagine Chicago would be good with Kenrich, Dieng and Cason to facilitate a S&T for DeRozan. I don't think it would make sense to trade Cason or Dort for DeRozan.

Oh I wouldn't want DDR. I just mean for barnes who makes 18mil. Kenrich and Dieng wouldn't get us there? I know we're hard capped but I wasn't sure what the rule was when we take back more salary at this juncture

[Kizz Fastfists]

Oh I wouldn't want DDR. I just mean for barnes who makes 18mil. Kenrich and Dieng wouldn't get us there? I know we're hard capped but I wasn't sure what the rule was when we take back more salary at this juncture

You are wanting to be the 3rd team and send value to Chicago for Barnes to come to OKC and DeRozan to Sacramento. That means OKC's package would have to please Chicago and Sacrament would have to want DeRozan more than Barnes. Barnes makes $18M. Kenrich and Deing combine for $11.7M. OKC can take back 125% of the outgoing salary + another $100K. $11.7M*125%=$14.625M leaving the most salary they can return as $14.725M. That leaves OKC short of the $18M needed for Barnes.

In order to meet the salary requirements for the deal OKC would either have to include Cason with Kenrich and Dieng or send Dort, by himself, as the outgoing salary.