2024-25 Regular Season

[ijspeelman]

It's more surprising to me, honestly, that Mobley hasn't extended. That should also have been a slam dunk unless we are considering trading him or are low-balling him.

And now its time to worry about this lol

There isn't really any worry involved there. Worst-case, the Cavs simply don't agree to terms this summer and can match any contract offer next summer.

And they can always pivot to extending Allen and trading Mobley.

If Mobley hit restricted FA, what do you think he's even offered?

I actually have no idea if Mobley is a max player or not. I kind of assume he is because he still has growth in him to be a decent option on offense while being a top 3ish defensive player in the NBA.

[jbk1234]

It's more surprising to me, honestly, that Mobley hasn't extended. That should also have been a slam dunk unless we are considering trading him or are low-balling him.

And now its time to worry about this lol

There isn't really any worry involved there. Worst-case, the Cavs simply don't agree to terms this summer and can match any contract offer next summer.

And they can always pivot to extending Allen and trading Mobley.

Depending on their confidence level, and Gilbert's pain threshold, doing what the Sixers did with Maxey's cap hold this summer is the smarter play. One last summer with the full MLE before you dive into the tax.

[JonFromVA]

DM isn't transcendant/franchise-altering enough to be "cute". Take a dump, or get off the potty... We've given up/done MORE than enough for him at this point in time.

News to me. You don't really need me to remind you how the season ended, do you?

If he has had talks with Altman regarding change he'd like to see made and Altman was ammenable to seeing if he could get it done, this is exactly how it would go. No point in acting desperate, showing your hand, or pissing off teammates.

Koby made Mitchell our franchise player by giving up so much for him and if anyone wanted to object to that, they've failed miserably to make their case on the floor.

There's some purpose to this delay and timing is the only reason I can imagine that doesn't have implications for the teams future construction.

Every franchise more or less has a "franchise player", its whether that guy DESERVES the tag that really matters. If you're happy to make the 2nd round, then claim "the cards just didn't fall right for us", i guess DM makes a fine "franchise player". I personally think we muffed it, at the time of the trade and now. You don't, which is fine. Each to their own...

I'm not arguing merit here, just the reality. He is our franchise player and we will move forward in partnership with him.

[JonFromVA]

It's more surprising to me, honestly, that Mobley hasn't extended. That should also have been a slam dunk unless we are considering trading him or are low-balling him.

And now its time to worry about this lol

Fair to say at this point any hangup is more about timing then anything else. We have to offer Evan the max if the plan is to develop him in to a max player. Maybe there's some details to work out? Or maybe they just want his announcement to have its own news day.

[JonFromVA]

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Kind of the expected framework. Cavs get +2yrs to figure it out.

Windy was pretty confusing trying to explain this, but presumably his extension extends his current contract which has 1 more year and then maybe an option year on it.

So unless they could eliminate some part of the existing deal, we might have 3 or 4 years before we're back in this position.

At that point, we're likely the only team that would even consider paying him that huge contract.

My expectation is if he wants out, we'll trade him, but being the 'man' on a team is a nice gig for both sides. It gives the Cavs a lot of legitimacy which they need if they're ever going to step up in to the top tier of franchises. Ultimately Altman's execution has to step up.

[JujitsuFlip]

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Yayyyy, finally.

Not the full 4 years we wanted but a 2+1, I'll take it.

[KGDirkTD_Fan]

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Yayyyy, finally.

Not the full 4 years we wanted but a 2+1, I'll take it.

Same, finally it is done. We got some stability, now on to improving the rest of the team.

[JujitsuFlip]

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Yayyyy, finally.

Not the full 4 years we wanted but a 2+1, I'll take it.

Same, finally it is done. We got some stability, now on to improving the rest of the team.

Outside of a Mobley extension, i think the Cavs summer is over lol

[toooskies]

Yayyyy, finally.

Not the full 4 years we wanted but a 2+1, I'll take it.

Same, finally it is done. We got some stability, now on to improving the rest of the team.

Outside of a Mobley extension, i think the Cavs summer is over lol

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

[JonFromVA]

Same, finally it is done. We got some stability, now on to improving the rest of the team.

Outside of a Mobley extension, i think the Cavs summer is over lol

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

Well, Miles Bridges is a UFA and we have a big hole at SF.

[ijspeelman]

Outside of a Mobley extension, i think the Cavs summer is over lol

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

Well, Miles Bridges is a UFA and we have a big hole at SF.

Pass...

Ignoring his glaring personal issues, besides 2020-21 he has not really been a big off-ball shooting threat. He's been around 35-36% on his wide open threes (besides 20-21 where he shot 43%) and overall has been a 33-34% shooter.

I'll admit I have not been an avid Hornets watcher recently so no idea how he was defensively this year. His on/off seems to be the similar all the way back to 19-20 and it shows the opponent having a much higher ORTG when he's on the floor. Those stats can be wonky, but its a pattern that has persisted his entire tenure

[JujitsuFlip]

Same, finally it is done. We got some stability, now on to improving the rest of the team.

Outside of a Mobley extension, i think the Cavs summer is over lol

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

No thanks on Cedi, yeah I'm cool with extending Allen and Mobley.

Okoro may end up on the QO, which is okay. If not, yes we need to use part of the MLE, if there is even anything left by then.

We still have a really thin big man rotation but maybe the idea is Burns is going to be that guy Kenny "discovers" and develops, since he will actually develop his bench, according to his press conference.

[JonFromVA]

Outside of a Mobley extension, i think the Cavs summer is over lol

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

No thanks on Cedi, yeah I'm cool with extending Allen and Mobley.

Okoro may end up on the QO, which is okay. If not, yes we need to use part of the MLE, if there is even anything left by then.

We still have a really thin big man rotation but maybe the idea is Burns is going to be that guy Kenny "discovers" and develops, since he will actually develop his bench, according to his press conference.

We'll be able to scout a lot of guys at Summer League. For all we know, Burns is useless at his new weight, but it's shaky to count on 2 way player to fill in big minutes in case of injury until they show it.

[JujitsuFlip]

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

No thanks on Cedi, yeah I'm cool with extending Allen and Mobley.

Okoro may end up on the QO, which is okay. If not, yes we need to use part of the MLE, if there is even anything left by then.

We still have a really thin big man rotation but maybe the idea is Burns is going to be that guy Kenny "discovers" and develops, since he will actually develop his bench, according to his press conference.

We'll be able to scout a lot of guys at Summer League. For all we know, Burns is useless at his new weight, but it's shaky to count on 2 way player to fill in big minutes in case of injury until they show it.

I agre with you but i trust Kenny. This was the season he referenced in his presser, that D'Lo was an All-Star and the Nets made the playoffs. Kenny is gonna be a complete 180 turn around philosophy wise from jb. All those guys you were advocating for this past season to get minutes, they're gonna be given opportunities, especially through the first like 60 games of the season.

[KGDirkTD_Fan]

No thanks on Cedi, yeah I'm cool with extending Allen and Mobley.

Okoro may end up on the QO, which is okay. If not, yes we need to use part of the MLE, if there is even anything left by then.

We still have a really thin big man rotation but maybe the idea is Burns is going to be that guy Kenny "discovers" and develops, since he will actually develop his bench, according to his press conference.

We'll be able to scout a lot of guys at Summer League. For all we know, Burns is useless at his new weight, but it's shaky to count on 2 way player to fill in big minutes in case of injury until they show it.

I agre with you but i trust Kenny. This was the season he referenced in his presser, that D'Lo was an All-Star and the Nets made the playoffs. Kenny is gonna be a complete 180 turn around philosophy wise from jb. All those guys you were advocating for this past season to get minutes, they're gonna be given opportunities, especially through the first like 60 games of the season.

Look at those minutes played across the board. It's criminal that we ran playoff rotations for entire season.

[JujitsuFlip]

We'll be able to scout a lot of guys at Summer League. For all we know, Burns is useless at his new weight, but it's shaky to count on 2 way player to fill in big minutes in case of injury until they show it.

I agre with you but i trust Kenny. This was the season he referenced in his presser, that D'Lo was an All-Star and the Nets made the playoffs. Kenny is gonna be a complete 180 turn around philosophy wise from jb. All those guys you were advocating for this past season to get minutes, they're gonna be given opportunities, especially through the first like 60 games of the season.

Look at those minutes played across the board. It's criminal that we ran playoff rotations for entire season.

It was part of why jb got fired, especially if that rumor about this past December is true.

I have always liked coaches who play 10 and 12 guys per night in the regular season.

The fact no on under Kenny played over 30 MPG is wild. Every guy on that Nets team is out of the league too outside of D'Lo, Allen, Levert, and Dinwiddie (he will probably sign somewhere this month).

It's not like Kenny was working with the 2013 Nets that had name recognition like 15 deep. Kenny was playing a bunch of nobodies and made the playoffs.

[jbk1234]

Outside of a Mobley extension, i think the Cavs summer is over lol

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

Well, Miles Bridges is a UFA and we have a big hole at SF.

Hardest of passes. That's a Haslam move.

[jbk1234]

Outside of a Mobley extension, i think the Cavs summer is over lol

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

No thanks on Cedi, yeah I'm cool with extending Allen and Mobley.

Okoro may end up on the QO, which is okay. If not, yes we need to use part of the MLE, if there is even anything left by then.

We still have a really thin big man rotation but maybe the idea is Burns is going to be that guy Kenny "discovers" and develops, since he will actually develop his bench, according to his press conference.

I'm good with Cedi on a minimum deal. Your minimum deal guys only need to be able to give you regular season minutes. The problem as a playoff team is you can't waste $8M on Niang.

[JujitsuFlip]

We might float an extension to Allen starting at $28m.

We might pick up Cedi on a minimum deal.

Okoro will either re-sign or we will find someone on the MLE.

No thanks on Cedi, yeah I'm cool with extending Allen and Mobley.

Okoro may end up on the QO, which is okay. If not, yes we need to use part of the MLE, if there is even anything left by then.

We still have a really thin big man rotation but maybe the idea is Burns is going to be that guy Kenny "discovers" and develops, since he will actually develop his bench, according to his press conference.

I'm good with Cedi on a minimum deal. Your minimum deal guys only need to be able to give you regular season minutes. The problem as a playoff team is you can't waste $8M on Niang.

I'm good on Cedi if LeVert is on the squad, i don't need 2 guys in my rotation, even if it is 10 or 12 guys who are that hot and cold.

Especially given Tyson's college coach called Kenny and said he should be in tje rotation and Kenny kind of sneezed at the idea, we don't need some near 30 year old dude stealing minutes on our team.

If we're getting a reunion for a Cavs player on the vet min, let's go with Marcus Morris, at least he fills a need in the big rotation. Shoot, I'd take a flyer on Donyell Marshall, since he can play the big man.

[jbk1234]

No thanks on Cedi, yeah I'm cool with extending Allen and Mobley.

Okoro may end up on the QO, which is okay. If not, yes we need to use part of the MLE, if there is even anything left by then.

We still have a really thin big man rotation but maybe the idea is Burns is going to be that guy Kenny "discovers" and develops, since he will actually develop his bench, according to his press conference.

I'm good with Cedi on a minimum deal. Your minimum deal guys only need to be able to give you regular season minutes. The problem as a playoff team is you can't waste $8M on Niang.

I'm good on Cedi if LeVert is on the squad, i don't need 2 guys in my rotation, even if it is 10 or 12 guys who are that hot and cold.

Especially given Tyson's college coach called Kenny and said he should be in tje rotation and Kenny kind of sneezed at the idea, we don't need some near 30 year old dude stealing minutes on our team.

If we're getting a reunion for a Cavs player on the vet min, let's go with Marcus Morris, at least he fills a need in the big rotation. Shoot, I'd take a flyer on Donyell Marshall, since he can play the big man.

I mean Tyson's play will determine whether he's in the rotation. We're not rebuilding. If a guy needs developmental reps, he can get them in the G League. Also, a college coach has no business calling up a pro coach and telling him to put a rookie into the rotation. Let's see if Tyson can beat out Bates on the SL depth chart before we start allocating regular season rotation minutes to him.