stuporman wrote:WargamesX wrote:stuporman wrote:
Do they lose the 'go over the cap' bird rights for Precious if they don't extend qualifying offer or is that they just lose the right to match another team's offer meaning he's UFA instead of RFA? I think the hard cap takes away the bird right exception if they didn't extend QO but not sure.
No it doesn’t take the bird rights away but he is a UFA. Honestly by the time you reach the 1st apron the best asset you have is bird rights. I think they would have matched IHart if they had his full bird rights, because that’s the only way you can keep what you got.
I'm still thinking that extending a QO holds more significance in the new salary rules with being hard capped but I just am not sure. It seems that they are impementing some crazy strict stuff to reign in the big money franchises and this seems like it would fit into their plan to do that. I'd need a citation link to confirm it not just forum discussion, no offense.
I have no idea why you guys are making such heavy weather of this. It's incredibly simple :
"(1) “Apron Team Salary” means, for a Team for a Salary Cap Year, the Team’s Team Salary:
(i) plus all Performance Bonuses excluded from a player’s Salary under Section 3(d) below;
(ii) plus the Salary attributable to a Contract signed by a Free Agent with zero (0) Years of Service or one (1) Year of Service provided for in Section 2(d)(1)(i)(F) above;
(iii) plus any amount that could be added to the Team’s Team Salary for such Salary Cap Year pursuant to Section 4(a)(1)(iii) below;
(iv) minus any Free Agent Amounts as described in Section 4(a)(2) below;
(v) plus, with respect to any Restricted Free Agent, the greater of (A) the Salary plus Unlikely Bonuses called for in any Article VII outstanding Qualifying Offer (or any outstanding Maximum Qualifying Offer, if applicable) tendered to the player, or (B) the Salary plus Unlikely Bonuses called for in any First Refusal Exercise Notice (as defined in Article XI, Section 5(g)) issued with respect to such player;
(vi) minus any amounts with respect to unsigned First Round Picks described in Section 4(a)(4) below;
(vii) plus the amount of any outstanding Required Tender to a First Round Pick;
(viii) minus the amount of any Salary Cap Exception that is deemed included in Team Salary pursuant to Sections 4(a)(7) and 6(n)(2) below;
(ix) plus any amount excluded from its Team Salary pursuant to Section 4(l) below; and
(x) minus the amount of any incomplete roster cap hold amount added to the Team’s Salary pursuant to Section 4(f) below."
As can be seen one should read with Sections 4(a),(d),(e) and (f) in mind.
"4(a) Computation. For purposes of computing Team Salary under this Agreement, all of the following amounts shall be included:
(1) Subject to the rules set forth in this Article VII, the aggregate Salaries of all active players (and former players to the extent provided by the terms of this Agreement) attributable to a particular Salary Cap Year, including, without limitation:
(i) Salaries paid or to be paid to players whose Player Contracts have been terminated pursuant to the NBA’s waiver procedure (without regard to any revised payment schedule that might be provided for in the terminated Player Contracts), except that, with respect to any Player Contract that has been terminated pursuant to the NBA’s waiver procedure, if the waiving Team elects in writing to have the player’s Salary stretched for Team Salary purposes in accordance with applicable CBA stretch rules, then the
amount to be included in Team Salary for a Salary Cap Year in respect of the terminated Player Contract shall equal the
amount allocated to such Salary Cap Year in accordance with such rules.
(ii) <retired players>
(iii) <Greivenances>
(iv) Salaries anticipated to be included in Team Salary based upon any agreement disclosed to the NBA pursuant to Article II, Section 13(a)(i) (including, without limitation, any executed Player Contract whose validity is conditional on the passage of a physical examination by the player or on the assignment of the Contract), except to the extent that any such Salary is less than a player’s Free Agent Amount (as defined in Section 4(d) below).
(2)(i) With respect to each Veteran Free Agent who last played for a Team who is an Unrestricted Free Agent, the Free Agent
Amount (as defined in Section 4(d) below) attributable to such Veteran Free Agent.
(ii) With respect to each Veteran Free Agent who last played for a Team who is a Restricted Free Agent, the greater of (A) the Free Agent Amount (as defined in Section 4(d) below) attributable to such Veteran Free Agent, (B) the Salary called for in any outstanding Qualifying Offer (other than a Two-Way Qualifying Offer, as defined in Article XI, Section 1(e)(iii)(B) below) tendered to such Veteran Free Agent (or, if the Restricted Free Agent was also tendered a Maximum Qualifying Offer pursuant to Article XI, Section 4(a)(ii), the Salary called for in such outstanding Maximum Qualifying Offer), or (C) the Salary called for in any First Refusal Exercise Notice (as defined in Article XI, Section 5(g)) issued with respect to such Veteran Free Agent.
(3) The aggregate Salaries called for under all outstanding Offer Sheets (as defined in Article XI, Section 5(b)).
(4) An amount with respect to a Team’s unsigned First Round Pick, if any, as determined in accordance with Section 4(e) below.
(5) An amount with respect to the number of players fewer than twelve (12) included in a Team’s Team Salary, as determined in
accordance with Section 4(f) below.
(6) Value or consideration received by retired players that is determined to be includable in Team Salary in accordance with Article XIII, Section 5.
(7) The amount of any Salary Cap Exception that is deemed included in Team Salary in accordance with Section 6(n)(2) below.
(8) An amount, if any, included in Team Salary in accordance with the Minimum Team Salary rules set forth in Section 2(c)(3) above."
"4(d) Free Agents. Subject to Section 4(a)(2)(ii) above, until a Team’s Veteran Free Agent re-signs with his Team, signs with another NBA Team, or is renounced, he will be included in his Prior Team’s Team Salary at one of the following amounts (“Free Agent Amounts”):
(1) (i)A Qualifying Veteran Free Agent, other than a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent described in Section 4(d)(1)(ii) below, will be included at one hundred fifty percent (150%) of his prior Salary if it was equal to or greater than the Estimated Average Player Salary for the prior Salary Cap Year, and one hundred ninety percent (190%) of his prior Salary if it was less than the Estimated Average Player Salary for the prior Salary Cap Year.
(ii) A Qualifying Veteran Free Agent following the second Option Year of his Rookie Scale Contract will be included at two hundred fifty percent (250%) of the player’s prior Salary if it was equal to or greater than the Estimated Average Player Salary for the prior Salary Cap Year, and three hundred percent (300%) of his prior Salary if it was less than the Estimated Average Player Salary for the prior Salary Cap Year.
(2) An Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent will be included at one hundred thirty percent (130%) of his prior Salary; provided,
however, that the player’s Prior Team may, by written notice to the NBA, renounce its rights to sign the player pursuant to the Early
Qualifying Veteran Free Agent Exception, in which case the player will be deemed a Non-Qualifying Veteran Free Agent for purposes
of this Section 4(d) and Sections 6(b) and 6(j)(5) below.
(3) A Non-Qualifying Veteran Free Agent will be included at one hundred twenty percent (120%) of his prior Salary.
(4) Notwithstanding Sections 4(d)(1)-(3) above, if the player’s prior Salary was equal to or less than the Minimum Player Salary applicable to such player, he will be included at the portion of the then-current Minimum Annual Salary applicable to such player that would not be reimbursed out of the League-wide benefits fund described in Article IV, Section 6(h).
(5) Notwithstanding Sections 4(d)(1)-(3) above, at no time shall a player’s Free Agent Amount exceed the Maximum Player Salary
applicable to such player or be less than the portion of the Minimum Annual Salary applicable to such player that would not be
reimbursed out of the League-wide benefits fund described in Article IV, Section 6(h).
(6) Notwithstanding Sections 4(d)(1)-(3) above, at no time shall a Free Agent Amount for a Veteran Free Agent following the second
or third Season of his Rookie Scale Contract exceed the maximum amount the Team may pay the player pursuant to Section 6(n)(3)
below.
(7) Notwithstanding Sections 4(d)(1)-(5) above, if a Two-Way Player completes a Two-Way Contract, the player’s Free Agent
Amount will be the Minimum Annual Salary applicable to a player completing a Standard NBA Contract for the zero (0) Years of
Service Minimum Annual Salary.
(8) For purposes of this Section 4(d) only, a player’s “prior Salary” means his Regular Salary for the prior Season plus any signing bonus allocation and the amount of any Incentive Compensation actually earned for such Season under the Player Contract in effect when the player finished the prior Season."
"4(e) First Round Picks.
(1) A First Round Pick, immediately upon selection in the Draft, shall be included in the Team Salary of the Team that holds his draft rights at one hundred twenty percent (120%) of his applicable Rookie Scale Amount (“Rookie Scale Cap Hold Amount”), and,
subject to Sections 4(e)(2) and (3) below, shall continue to be included in the Team Salary of any Team that holds his draft rights
(including any Team to which the player’s draft rights are assigned) until such time as the player signs with such Team or until the Team loses or assigns its exclusive draft rights to the player.
(2) In the event that a First Round Pick signs with a non-NBA team, the player’s applicable Rookie Scale Cap Hold Amount shall
be excluded from the Team Salary of the Team that holds his draft rights beginning on the date he signs such non-NBA contract or the first day of the Regular Season, whichever is later, and shall be included again in his Team’s Team Salary at the applicable Rookie Scale Cap Hold Amount on the following July 1 or the date the player’s contract ends (or the player is released from his non-NBA contractual obligations), whichever is earlier, unless the Team renounces its exclusive rights to the player in accordance with
Article X, Section 4(g). If, after such following July 1, or any subsequent July 1, the player signs another, or remains under,
contract with a non-NBA team, the player’s applicable Rookie Scale Cap Hold Amount will again be excluded from Team Salary
beginning on the date of the contract signing or the first day of the Regular Season commencing after such July 1, whichever is later, and will again be included in Team Salary at the applicable Rookie Scale Cap Hold Amount on the following July 1 or the date the player’s contract ends (or the player is released from his non-NBA contractual obligations), whichever is earlier, unless the Team renounces its exclusive rights to the player in accordance with Article X, Section 4(g).
(3) A Team that holds draft rights to a First Round Pick may elect to have the player’s applicable Rookie Scale Cap Hold Amount
excluded from its Team Salary at any time prior to the first day of any Regular Season by providing the NBA with a written statement that the Team will not sign the player during that Salary Cap Year accompanied by a written statement from the First Round Pick renouncing his right to accept any outstanding Required Tender made to him by the Team. After making such an election,
(i) the Team shall be prohibited from signing the player during that Salary Cap Year, except in accordance with Section 5(c)(4)(ii) below,
(ii) the Team shall continue to possess such rights with respect to the player that the Team possessed pursuant to Article X immediately prior to such election, and
(iii) the player’s applicable Rookie Scale Amount shall be included again in his Team’s Team Salary at the applicable Rookie Scale Cap Hold Amount on the following July 1. When a First Round Pick provides a Team with a written statement renouncing his right to accept that year’s outstanding Required Tender, the Player shall no longer be permitted to accept it.
(4) For purposes of this Section 4(e), in the event that a First Round Pick does not sign a Contract with the Team that holds his
draft rights during the Salary Cap Year immediately following the Draft in which he was selected (or during the same Salary Cap Year in which he was drafted if the Draft occurs on or after July 1), the “applicable Rookie Scale Amount” for such First Round Pick
means, with respect to any subsequent Salary Cap Year, the Rookie Scale Amount that would apply if the player were drafted in the
Draft immediately preceding such Salary Cap Year at the same draft position at which he was actually selected."
"4(f) Incomplete Rosters.
(1) If at any time from July 1 through the day prior to the first day of the Regular Season a Team has fewer than twelve (12) players, determined in accordance with Section 4(f)(2) below, included in its Team Salary, then the Team’s Team Salary shall be increased by an amount calculated as follows:
STEP 1:
Subtract from twelve (12) the number of players included in Team Salary.
STEP 2:
If the result in Step 1 is a positive number, multiply the result in Step 1 by the Minimum Annual Salary applicable to players with zero (0) Years of Service under the Minimum Annual Salary Scale for that Salary Cap Year.
(2) In determining whether a Team has fewer than twelve (12) players included in its Team Salary for purposes of Section 4(f)(1)
above only, the only players who shall be counted are
(i) players under Contract with the Team who are included in Team Salary,
(ii) Free Agents who are included in Team Salary pursuant to Section 4(a)(2) above,
(iii) players to whom Offer Sheets have been given, and
(iv) unsigned First Round Picks who are included in Team Salary pursuant to Section 4(e) above."
