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C_Money wrote:He’s likely getting stashed somewhere but why not at least put him on the Summer League roster? The guy needs as much playing time as he can get.
raptorforlife88 wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:Has there been anyone outside of the Raptors brass/fanbase that has commented on this draft selection?
Trying to understand if this guy has a real chance or Masai is doing favours for basketball Africa.
It's not that hard to google draft rankings for 2024 and see for yourself.
The Ringer had him 60th on their big board, CBSsports had himat 63rd, NBADRAFT had him 43rd.
If you look at this website: https://www.rookiescale.com/2024-consensus-board/
That compiles the various big boards and it has Chomche at 58th. We took him with the 57th pick. What does that tell you?
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Duffman100 wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
I don't mean currently have contracts, I mean were offered a contract at all. There's way more NCAA products drafted in that range that ended up playing a few minutes here or there.
Is there? I looked and found like 4-5.
There's 32 by my count.
WuTang_OG wrote:Bring him over now. We got the 905. Let him soak in every minute on court and the toronto / nba culture
ForeverTFC wrote:C_Money wrote:He’s likely getting stashed somewhere but why not at least put him on the Summer League roster? The guy needs as much playing time as he can get.
Is the roster out? He might be on it.
But I'm thinking they've learned a lot from the Bruno experience and are trying to keep him very low key and expectations very low. I think the Bruno experience really left a mark on Masai. Bruno wasn't NBA ready, but he was also not ready for the profile, expectations and the money that came from the NBA. Nor did we have a plan for him to develop.
From the Ringer article (one of my favorites), Ujiri doubled down that they got the talent right but totally messed up his development. I think he's being very cautious with Chomche:Some time in January 2014, Dole began to hear stories from an athlete at the Pinheiros athlete house in São Paulo about the presence of Raptors and Pacers personnel in the gym. They were after Bruno. Suddenly, just over a decade after Ujiri entered the scouting world, he found himself in a familiar place: jockeying for position in a race against a colleague for an exciting unknown. Except for one distinction: Philo was the star scout back then; Ujiri was the star executive VP now. Philo, the Pacers lead scout at the time, had a development plan in place: Send Caboclo to Europe for three years and revisit his NBA prospects then. The Raptors’ plan was far simpler: cut the bull, cut the buyout check, come to Toronto immediately. It was clear which path Pinheiros preferred. It was clear who was going to win the battle. (The Raptors would eventually pay the buyout fee to Rossi and Pinheiros upon drafting Caboclo—Barueri, the club that developed Bruno throughout his teens, received nothing.)Ujiri admitted his failures with Caboclo by 2018, when the Raptors finally cut bait by trading him to Sacramento. Bruno was traded halfway through his fourth season with the team. The kid who was two years away from being two years away didn’t even get the full four years with the Raptors. “It was difficult for us, because I just thought it was time,” Ujiri told reporters then. “We tried to, we started the right process a little late, which is something we failed at but I think we’ll learn from. At some point, I think there needed to be some separation where he goes and learns something different somewhere else. On the part of talent, I think we got that part right. He is a real talented kid. But in the process we got the D-League team a couple of years later and it’s a question from me whether he should have stayed over.”
The True Story of Bruno Caboclo: The NBA Draft’s Last Mystery Man: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/6/27/24186882/bruno-caboclo-nba-draft-toronto-raptors-two-years-away
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Great pick at 57. If he’s a bust who cares. But if he hits? HOOO MAN!!!
ArthurVandelay wrote:I’m hoping Chomche is signed to a 2-year 2-way contract. Eventually that gets converted to a standard 3-4 year minimum deal allowing Chomche to have at least 5 years development in the 905 and Raptors.
The goal is to have him be a monster at 21-23 years of age.
He’s a project
Dalek wrote:
Sadly he is missing the rookie PR event. I kind of wonder if Bobby has a plan to stash him in Europe rather than sign him to a deal. Literally no sign he is with the team considering he hasn't been interviewed or appeared anywhere. A true man of mystery.
ItsDanger wrote:In MLB and NHL, picking a guy like Chomche is an easy risk because you have control over him for longer and it's often cheap. But in NBA, time can be your enemy. Part of this is going to be how quick they can bring him up to speed to take advantage of his raw talent.
Dalek wrote:ItsDanger wrote:In MLB and NHL, picking a guy like Chomche is an easy risk because you have control over him for longer and it's often cheap. But in NBA, time can be your enemy. Part of this is going to be how quick they can bring him up to speed to take advantage of his raw talent.
He was I think the youngest in the class and was even considering reclassifying to 2025. It was a weird play to stay in this year considering he almost went undrafted.
Toronto now has the luxury to control his development. If it take 3 years he still will be 21-22 in his rookie year which is still young for a PF/C. I'd love it if he signed in Spain and developed over there with a good club like Real Madrid.
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Risk101 wrote:niQ wrote:?s=19
It wouldn’t be the end of the world if he develops overseas but it would be a bummer not being able to really control how he develops.
I will say this the kid looks super mature and can probably handle himself a lot better then some of the young prospects we have had over the years.
Bull-E wrote:Risk101 wrote:niQ wrote:?s=19
It wouldn’t be the end of the world if he develops overseas but it would be a bummer not being able to really control how he develops.
I will say this the kid looks super mature and can probably handle himself a lot better then some of the young prospects we have had over the years.
I believe there's an option to stash him on the G League team, without needing to roster him on the big club (if agreed by all parties). At one time it was mentioned the club prefers to develop draft picks within their program rather than outsourcing that to third parties.
