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Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#661 » by twix2500 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:31 pm

July 6: Each NBA team may begin signing free agents to contracts officially
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July 6: The Miami Heat may continue doing jack chit officially
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Post#663 » by El Alonzo scowl » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:33 pm

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Even though I don't write very actively here, you can add me to the list. I've always maintained that he is overrated. I even got into an argument with some idiots here who admire Herro's ass.

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Post#664 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:40 pm

I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#665 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:42 pm

El Alonzo scowl wrote:Gonna need a strong drink and weed gummy after my Ecuador lose 3-0 to Argentina tonight, get eliminated from Copa América, and the Heat do fu*king nothing in free agency but re-sign scrubs they shouldn't be bringing back.


I haven't kept track of Copa America but does Ecuador have any shot to advance? Messi is hurt so there should be a chance or is the Argentina team that good?
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#666 » by VaDe255 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:44 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS


but he is the best 3p shooter in Heat history with his toe on the 3p line
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#667 » by Heat3 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:45 pm

Now that the Panthers left Bally Sports and will be on free broadcast tv, any chance the Heat do the same? Would be more convenient than the bootleg streams I use to watch.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#668 » by AirP. » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:50 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

Big bucks? The MLE is around 13 million. The cap is skyrocketing in the next few years. If Miami could lock him up around 10-12 for 3-4 years you now can look to make other moves to upgrade the roster.

Quit looking at a single transaction when not talking about your top players, look at what it can do for your teambuilding and what flexibility it gives you.

BTW... I'd rather have Martin at 10-12 million than Highsmith at 5-8.
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Post#669 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:52 pm

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Wait wait wait make your phucking moves already. If we have had conversations with a team with cap space make the damn move already.


What flexibility lmfao?! We don’t have any flexibility, we can’t accumulate assets because we just let everyone walk for free, we sign bums like Herro to dumb contracts, and when we do make trades we wait until our guys value is at their lowest because the FO is delusional lol.

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Post#670 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:52 pm

DeRozen is a good player, and he's also a terrible fit here next to non shooting Jimmy and Bam.

I'd still take him, but he's not some magical cure by himself.

At this point I'd go after Ingram and pray we can take his game to the next level.

See if we can Move Herro + Duncan for Ingram, Make him focus on shooting more 3's, he had seasons he shot high volume on good %.

He's the only one that makes sense both in age, size, scoring talent, and attainability.

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#671 » by insfo » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:57 pm

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insfo wrote:I guess OP and snoozin Pat have managed to break a lifelong Butler fan who even followed him through the lean Chicago years and the Minny stint :banghead:

It's not the FO, I've been a fan of teams with way worse management.


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Post#672 » by twix2500 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:58 pm

AirP. wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

Big bucks? The MLE is around 13 million. The cap is skyrocketing in the next few years. If Miami could lock him up around 10-12 for 3-4 years you now can look to make other moves to upgrade the roster.

Quit looking at a single transaction when not talking about your top players, look at what it can do for your teambuilding and what flexibility it gives you.

BTW... I'd rather have Martin at 10-12 million than Highsmith at 5-8.



You are talking to a room that believes there are only two contracts. The min and the Max. no middle class
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Post#673 » by Beenie » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:14 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:DeRozen is a good player, and he's also a terrible fit here next to non shooting Jimmy and Bam.

I'd still take him, but he's not some magical cure by himself.

At this point I'd go after Ingram and pray we can take his game to the next level.

See if we can Move Herro + Duncan for Ingram, Make him focus on shooting more 3's, he had seasons he shot high volume on good %.

He's the only one that makes sense both in age, size, scoring talent, and attainability.

Rozier
Jimmy
Ingram
Bam
Ware

Jamie 6th man


Isn’t Ingram just a taller Derozen who plays in less games and will cost significantly more?

I’d take him to disrupt the staleness of this roster but the stylistic incompatibility is very much a concern
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#674 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:14 pm

Flexibility my ass. Nothing but lies. If they have talked to a team with cap space then make the move and open up the flexibility now so when the time is right you can strike.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#675 » by Beenie » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:18 pm

Still beating the Miles Bridges drum.

Fits better than a lot of the guys being touted and the path to get him would likely be within reason
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Post#676 » by twix2500 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:23 pm

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#677 » by HeatIn5 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:31 pm

AirP. wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

Big bucks? The MLE is around 13 million. The cap is skyrocketing in the next few years. If Miami could lock him up around 10-12 for 3-4 years you now can look to make other moves to upgrade the roster.

Quit looking at a single transaction when not talking about your top players, look at what it can do for your teambuilding and what flexibility it gives you.

BTW... I'd rather have Martin at 10-12 million than Highsmith at 5-8.


I'd rather have neither.

You could have made that same argument about every single player that we have resigned over the last 12 years and then had to give up assets to move because we had this logic of thinking.
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Post#678 » by HeatingUp3 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:32 pm

Dumastic Bridges won't sign here
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Post#679 » by HeatIn5 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:34 pm

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AirP. wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

Big bucks? The MLE is around 13 million. The cap is skyrocketing in the next few years. If Miami could lock him up around 10-12 for 3-4 years you now can look to make other moves to upgrade the roster.

Quit looking at a single transaction when not talking about your top players, look at what it can do for your teambuilding and what flexibility it gives you.

BTW... I'd rather have Martin at 10-12 million than Highsmith at 5-8.



You are talking to a room that believes there are only two contracts. The min and the Max. no middle class


I just think that the talent pool is so saturated that I would rather a guy like Alec Burks on a 1 year min deal than Caleb Martin at 15ish over 3-4 years. Especially when he's not the difference in competing for a championship.

Until the 2026-2027 offseason, I am going to be in favor of any move that clears our books or gets us future assets. That's why the best option is a Caleb Martin sign and trade that gets us even a couple 2nds
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#680 » by Beenie » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:39 pm

HeatingUp3 wrote:Dumastic Bridges won't sign here


He’ll go anywhere that’s willing to pay him 25-30m, I’d guess

Question is would Mia be willing to trade for him

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