Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0

[DayofMourning]

I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

I dont care if they give him a 2 year 104 million contract. as long as he expires by 2026. The only contract i want in 2026 is Bam, JJJ and Ware. I want all the cap space possible to actually do something.

In 2008 we made a huge effort to get contracts that expire by 2010. I want that same effort for 2026 and get Bam a true star.

Wont the contract stipulations be the same then? When hometown deals far outweigh signing with another team?

I have less and less faith that our money is going to mean more to a FA then their own teams bigger deal.

[AirP.]

I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

Big bucks? The MLE is around 13 million. The cap is skyrocketing in the next few years. If Miami could lock him up around 10-12 for 3-4 years you now can look to make other moves to upgrade the roster.

Quit looking at a single transaction when not talking about your top players, look at what it can do for your teambuilding and what flexibility it gives you.

BTW... I'd rather have Martin at 10-12 million than Highsmith at 5-8.

I'd rather have neither.

You could have made that same argument about every single player that we have resigned over the last 12 years and then had to give up assets to move because we had this logic of thinking.

What logic of thinking? A player who started nearly half the games for Miami in the last 2 years is worth more around the MLE, not only started those games but also played out of position a lot of the time and did a decent job.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Lmao!!

[Beenie]

Still beating the Miles Bridges drum.

Fits better than a lot of the guys being touted and the path to get him would likely be within reason

The Hornets traded for Lowry to have the capspace to resign him. Worse case for them they trade him to the Clippers for expiring contracts and compensation. If we stayed away from Kyrie, no way we look at Bridges.

They seem to be somewhat indifferent to his return there

If he goes, yes, they’ll want short term contracts and an asset(s) as a sweetener

Regarding Kyrie, it’s a different scenario. At the time Mia wasnt yet completely out of love with Lowry. And the perceived bigotry of a player is a whole different thing to have to deal with than domestic violence which Mia has experience dealing with

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[Beenie]

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Hes got the Goran speaking cadence down

[Flash4thewin]

I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

I dont care if they give him a 2 year 104 million contract. as long as he expires by 2026. The only contract i want in 2026 is Bam, JJJ and Ware. I want all the cap space possible to actually do something.

In 2008 we made a huge effort to get contracts that expire by 2010. I want that same effort for 2026 and get Bam a true star.

Here is the simple problem, we can only offer a year less. Bam, Fox, Mitchell are looking at that 10 year super max. One year less means a difference of giving up over 75+ million dollars. Fox can get a no trade clause just like Bam and have complete control, why would Fox give that up?

Let put it another way, what have you seen from this front office, in this Jimmy tenure that would make any star player be open to giving up 75+ million dollars and not explode laughing at that proposition. Actions, inactions do have consequences.

[DayofMourning]

I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

I dont care if they give him a 2 year 104 million contract. as long as he expires by 2026. The only contract i want in 2026 is Bam, JJJ and Ware. I want all the cap space possible to actually do something.

In 2008 we made a huge effort to get contracts that expire by 2010. I want that same effort for 2026 and get Bam a true star.

Here is the simple problem, we can only offer a year less. Bam, Fox, Mitchell are looking at that 10 year super max. One year less means a difference of giving up over 75+ million dollars. Fox can get a no trade clause just like Bam and have complete control, why would Fox give that up?

Let put it another way, what have you seen from this front office, in this Jimmy tenure that would make any star player be open to giving up 75+ million dollars and not explode laughing at that proposition. Actions, inactions do have consequences.

As sobering as it sounds, this is the truth. You better draft your stars.

[Rapaz]

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A depressed trade market for Tyler hError

[HeatIn5]

I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

I dont care if they give him a 2 year 104 million contract. as long as he expires by 2026. The only contract i want in 2026 is Bam, JJJ and Ware. I want all the cap space possible to actually do something.

In 2008 we made a huge effort to get contracts that expire by 2010. I want that same effort for 2026 and get Bam a true star.

Thank you for seeing the light my friend.

[HeatIn5]

We can’t get a first for Herro but give a first for Rozier on a 3 year deal.

[DayofMourning]

Jalen Smith got 3 years $27 million to play for the Bulls.

[NightWatch]

We can’t get a first for Herro but give a first for Rozier on a 3 year deal.

That’s what desperation does to you. Desperation is a horrible thing.

[Wiltside]

This is the worst Free Agency period in memory. Not just for the Heat, but for the league as a whole. This CBA destroyed the offseason huh.

[contract]

I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

Big bucks? The MLE is around 13 million. The cap is skyrocketing in the next few years. If Miami could lock him up around 10-12 for 3-4 years you now can look to make other moves to upgrade the roster.

Quit looking at a single transaction when not talking about your top players, look at what it can do for your teambuilding and what flexibility it gives you.

BTW... I'd rather have Martin at 10-12 million than Highsmith at 5-8.

Hell no! Highsmith at 5m-8m per is a better contract. Both of them are worth contracts in that $5m-$8m range.

[contract]

I was away. Have we done anything to improve our team in the past 10 hours?

[eddieheatfan]

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A depressed trade market for Tyler hError

you guys are merciless

[Heat3]

I have Zero Intrest - ZERO in signing Martin for anything more then 5 Mil per year.

Guy had 1 good series and been overrated since, my god.

Always injured, totally inconsistent, funky shot, questionable IQ....YOU DON'T PAY BIG BUCKS TO THESE KIND OF PLAYERSS FFS

I dont care if they give him a 2 year 104 million contract. as long as he expires by 2026. The only contract i want in 2026 is Bam, JJJ and Ware. I want all the cap space possible to actually do something.

In 2008 we made a huge effort to get contracts that expire by 2010. I want that same effort for 2026 and get Bam a true star.

Here is the simple problem, we can only offer a year less. Bam, Fox, Mitchell are looking at that 10 year super max. One year less means a difference of giving up over 75+ million dollars. Fox can get a no trade clause just like Bam and have complete control, why would Fox give that up?

Let put it another way, what have you seen from this front office, in this Jimmy tenure that would make any star player be open to giving up 75+ million dollars and not explode laughing at that proposition. Actions, inactions do have consequences.

I don't think there is anything this or any FO could do different that would convince someone to give up $75 million.

[MettaWorldPanda]

We can’t get a first for Herro but give a first for Rozier on a 3 year deal.

Rozier trade also came with 15 million worth of luxury tax savings. For Micky that was well worth the first that also brought a much younger starting PG. All trade scenarios are somewhat different. We gave up the corpse of Lowry and his expiring for this deal. I don’t see many teams with an old man expiring and first for Herro. Jordan Poole was dumped for Paul while GS had to send out a 1st and 2nd.

[DayofMourning]

Im so convinced. With hometown teams able to obliterate outsider contract offers, we've got a new playing field.

You better draft, and draft well. Funny that this wake up, slap to the face, would occur right before a very interesting 2025 draft class.

Weve got more young guys than ever. We develop players well. We have a squad of youngsters now...without that superstar/leader. Get him. Have the exact same space youd expect to have with HIM and cap space and a TEAM in 2026.