Santi Aldama to Sixers

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Santi Aldama to Sixers 

Post#1 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 1:12 am

Sixers are in need of a cheap F that can rebound and stretch the floor. Grizzlies have a bunch of options at F after drafting Edey and will have to make a decision on Aldama’s contract after the year.

So what is Aldama’s value to the Grizzlies. Would a (likely) late ‘26 1st (Phil or OkC) straight up be enough? Throw in 1 2nd?
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Re: Santi Aldama to Sixers 

Post#2 » by psman2 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 1:37 am

I think a late 1st is fair value for Aldama. But Memphis is not deep at all in the frontcourt and really need his shooting still. He is likely only a 16-22 minute guy when we are at full health, but we don't have any real depth if case of a frontcourt injury. GG Jackson is still more of a 3 than a 4 and LaRavia is also a 3/4 that hasn't proven rotation worthy yet.

So unless we make another swing for a frontcourt player I doubt we are looking to liquidate him.
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Post#3 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 1:57 am

psman2 wrote:I think a late 1st is fair value for Aldama. But Memphis is not deep at all in the frontcourt and really need his shooting still. He is likely only a 16-22 minute guy when we are at full health, but we don't have any real depth if case of a frontcourt injury. GG Jackson is still more of a 3 than a 4 and LaRavia is also a 3/4 that hasn't proven rotation worthy yet.

So unless we make another swing for a frontcourt player I doubt we are looking to liquidate him.


What about Brandon Clarke?

Obviously I’m an outsider looking in so maybe I’m way off. But isn’t the starting lineup going to be…?

Smart
Ja
Bane
J Jackson
Eddey

That leaves GG, Clarke, Laravia, and Z Williams off the bench as far as F’s. Sixers would also be happy to include Paul Reed if it helps.
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Re: Santi Aldama to Sixers 

Post#4 » by HotelVitale » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:20 am

Good target player and good fit for Philly but think he’s just on the wrong team. The Grizz are win now this year and need him more than the pick, at least for the time being.
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Re: Santi Aldama to Sixers 

Post#5 » by psman2 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:23 am

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psman2 wrote:I think a late 1st is fair value for Aldama. But Memphis is not deep at all in the frontcourt and really need his shooting still. He is likely only a 16-22 minute guy when we are at full health, but we don't have any real depth if case of a frontcourt injury. GG Jackson is still more of a 3 than a 4 and LaRavia is also a 3/4 that hasn't proven rotation worthy yet.

So unless we make another swing for a frontcourt player I doubt we are looking to liquidate him.


What about Brandon Clarke?

Obviously I’m an outsider looking in so maybe I’m way off. But isn’t the starting lineup going to be…?

Smart
Ja
Bane
J Jackson
Eddey

That leaves GG, Clarke, Laravia, and Z Williams off the bench as far as F’s. Sixers would also be happy to include Paul Reed if it helps.


Nope Clarke is likely ticketed for more PT than Aldama.

Ja (33) Smart (11) VWill (4)
Bane (33) Smart (6) VWill (9)
Smart (14) GG Jackson (22) VWill (12)
JJJ (20) Aldama (18) Clarke (6) GG (4)
Edey (24) JJJ (10) Clarke (14)

That is how I see our nine man rotation as of right now. Zaire and LaRavia are out of the main rotation and will likely only get regular PT if they have greatly improved or an injury. Konchar is likely our 10th man and will fill in a lot when injuries occur. The biggest wildcard is GG Jackson, if he doesn't play well enough then LaRavia might eat into some of his minutes. Edey is still a big question mark too, he might not be able to handle this many minutes his rookie year either meaning more minutes for Aldama and Clarke. Most Memphis fans wanted us to add another frontcourt vet at the 4/5 since we are so thin there.

Adding Paul Reed would for sure help the offer but I don't know if we would feel comfortable with him in our main 4 man frontcourt rotation since it appears he is more of just a small ball center. I would love to add him to our current mix with the MLE if for some reason Philly needed to release him or take him in via trade with a TPE but swapping one of our rotation guys for him is less appealing.
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Post#6 » by the_process » Fri Jul 5, 2024 10:39 am

What if it was Paul Reed and a 1st for Aldama?
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Post#7 » by youngcrev » Fri Jul 5, 2024 11:57 am

psman2 wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
psman2 wrote:I think a late 1st is fair value for Aldama. But Memphis is not deep at all in the frontcourt and really need his shooting still. He is likely only a 16-22 minute guy when we are at full health, but we don't have any real depth if case of a frontcourt injury. GG Jackson is still more of a 3 than a 4 and LaRavia is also a 3/4 that hasn't proven rotation worthy yet.

So unless we make another swing for a frontcourt player I doubt we are looking to liquidate him.


What about Brandon Clarke?

Obviously I’m an outsider looking in so maybe I’m way off. But isn’t the starting lineup going to be…?

Smart
Ja
Bane
J Jackson
Eddey

That leaves GG, Clarke, Laravia, and Z Williams off the bench as far as F’s. Sixers would also be happy to include Paul Reed if it helps.


Nope Clarke is likely ticketed for more PT than Aldama.

Ja (33) Smart (11) VWill (4)
Bane (33) Smart (6) VWill (9)
Smart (14) GG Jackson (22) VWill (12)
JJJ (20) Aldama (18) Clarke (6) GG (4)
Edey (24) JJJ (10) Clarke (14)

That is how I see our nine man rotation as of right now. Zaire and LaRavia are out of the main rotation and will likely only get regular PT if they have greatly improved or an injury. Konchar is likely our 10th man and will fill in a lot when injuries occur. The biggest wildcard is GG Jackson, if he doesn't play well enough then LaRavia might eat into some of his minutes. Edey is still a big question mark too, he might not be able to handle this many minutes his rookie year either meaning more minutes for Aldama and Clarke. Most Memphis fans wanted us to add another frontcourt vet at the 4/5 since we are so thin there.

Adding Paul Reed would for sure help the offer but I don't know if we would feel comfortable with him in our main 4 man frontcourt rotation since it appears he is more of just a small ball center. I would love to add him to our current mix with the MLE if for some reason Philly needed to release him or take him in via trade with a TPE but swapping one of our rotation guys for him is less appealing.


Based on what you have there, getting a 1st (even if it is likely a late one) feels like a good move for a 10th man in the rotation that's in a contract year.

Also, it seems like like they are bringing Kennard back, so the majority of VWill's minutes are likely to come at forward I'd think.

Now... Whether they could get a better asset elsewhere is another question.
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Post#8 » by R-DAWG » Fri Jul 5, 2024 12:03 pm

The Sixers are in a very healthy draft pick position. Although their 2025 pick goes to OKC, they have 2 2026 1sts (PHIl/and I believe lesser of OKc/LAC/HOU). They also own a LAC 2028 unprotected 1 and the pick they owe to Brooklyn is protected through 2028.

I think Philly owes it to themselves to at least trade one of the 26 1st and one of the 28 1sts to fill out this roster. The idea of acquiring rookie scale guys who can contribute now makes sense.

They are in such a good position to have a 2-3 year run and a complete rest following.
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Post#9 » by esvl » Fri Jul 5, 2024 12:24 pm

There is a solid chance that Aldama’s value increases by 2 times by February given that he does ‘t look close to his ceiling yet. For that reason alone, Memphis should keep him.
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Post#10 » by psman2 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 12:39 pm

youngcrev wrote:
psman2 wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
What about Brandon Clarke?

Obviously I’m an outsider looking in so maybe I’m way off. But isn’t the starting lineup going to be…?

Smart
Ja
Bane
J Jackson
Eddey

That leaves GG, Clarke, Laravia, and Z Williams off the bench as far as F’s. Sixers would also be happy to include Paul Reed if it helps.


Nope Clarke is likely ticketed for more PT than Aldama.

Ja (33) Smart (11) VWill (4)
Bane (33) Smart (6) VWill (9)
Smart (14) GG Jackson (22) VWill (12)
JJJ (20) Aldama (18) Clarke (6) GG (4)
Edey (24) JJJ (10) Clarke (14)

That is how I see our nine man rotation as of right now. Zaire and LaRavia are out of the main rotation and will likely only get regular PT if they have greatly improved or an injury. Konchar is likely our 10th man and will fill in a lot when injuries occur. The biggest wildcard is GG Jackson, if he doesn't play well enough then LaRavia might eat into some of his minutes. Edey is still a big question mark too, he might not be able to handle this many minutes his rookie year either meaning more minutes for Aldama and Clarke. Most Memphis fans wanted us to add another frontcourt vet at the 4/5 since we are so thin there.

Adding Paul Reed would for sure help the offer but I don't know if we would feel comfortable with him in our main 4 man frontcourt rotation since it appears he is more of just a small ball center. I would love to add him to our current mix with the MLE if for some reason Philly needed to release him or take him in via trade with a TPE but swapping one of our rotation guys for him is less appealing.


Based on what you have there, getting a 1st (even if it is likely a late one) feels like a good move for a 10th man in the rotation that's in a contract year.

Also, it seems like like they are bringing Kennard back, so the majority of VWill's minutes are likely to come at forward I'd think.

Now... Whether they could get a better asset elsewhere is another question.


He is our 8/9th man and one frontcourt injury away from playing 30+ minutes. Value as I stated before is not the major issue here, the issue is that we need him and lack quality depth.

Kennard is not currently signed , that is why I prefaced our depth chart with as of right now. But if Kennard is resigned that doesn’t really affect our need for Aldama.
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Re: Santi Aldama to Sixers 

Post#11 » by QMemphis » Fri Jul 5, 2024 1:49 pm

Unless we get an upgrade doubt Santi is getting moved. Though expiring our GM loves him and he can improve greatly after his Olympic run this summer.
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Post#12 » by the_process » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:37 pm

Reed and the better of the PHI/OKC 26 1st for Aldama and LaRavia? Add a couple 2nds?
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Post#13 » by hugepatsfan » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:06 pm

I could see BOS getting involved with Springer's contract o match and then picks added. A 4/5 stretch combo is sneaky need for them in the current year and into the future.
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Post#14 » by BarbaGrizz » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:12 pm

76ers should be looking to trade for LaRavia, not Aldama. LaRavia can be had for a couple 2nds
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Post#15 » by Arsenal » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:38 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:76ers should be looking to trade for LaRavia, not Aldama. LaRavia can be had for a couple 2nds


Done deal. Sixers could definitely use LaRavia.
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Post#16 » by esvl » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:52 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:76ers should be looking to trade for LaRavia, not Aldama. LaRavia can be had for a couple 2nds


You may confused him with Konchar in terms of value. LRV looked good last year. He should definitely stay given his rookie contract and the progress showed.
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Post#17 » by ferk » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:23 pm

esvl wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:76ers should be looking to trade for LaRavia, not Aldama. LaRavia can be had for a couple 2nds


You may confused him with Konchar in terms of value. LRV looked good last year. He should definitely stay given his rookie contract and the progress showed.


He looked good enough to land some 2nds that's about it.
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Post#18 » by esvl » Fri Jul 5, 2024 5:52 pm

ferk wrote:
esvl wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:76ers should be looking to trade for LaRavia, not Aldama. LaRavia can be had for a couple 2nds


You may confused him with Konchar in terms of value. LRV looked good last year. He should definitely stay given his rookie contract and the progress showed.


He looked good enough to land some 2nds that's about it.


Maybe for now. My point is that, similar to Aldama, he can make another level this year, so the Grizz should keep him a bit longer.
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Post#19 » by BarbaGrizz » Fri Jul 5, 2024 6:46 pm

esvl wrote:
ferk wrote:
esvl wrote:
You may confused him with Konchar in terms of value. LRV looked good last year. He should definitely stay given his rookie contract and the progress showed.


He looked good enough to land some 2nds that's about it.


Maybe for now. My point is that, similar to Aldama, he can make another level this year, so the Grizz should keep him a bit longer.

We´ll not have the minutes for all of them...Much rather give minutes to GG and Vince and Santi and try to get some 2nds for LaRavia and Ziaire
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Post#20 » by esvl » Fri Jul 5, 2024 8:25 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
esvl wrote:
ferk wrote:
He looked good enough to land some 2nds that's about it.


Maybe for now. My point is that, similar to Aldama, he can make another level this year, so the Grizz should keep him a bit longer.

We´ll not have the minutes for all of them...Much rather give minutes to GG and Vince and Santi and try to get some 2nds for LaRavia and Ziaire


It is very valid in the world where everybody stay healthy during a long season and PO

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