The Joe Ingles Thread

[KGdaBom]

The more I look into the Ingles signing the more I love it. Check out Ben Beecken going over the stats. His stats were crazy good, but on moderate to low volume and his Defense was passable.

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Very impressive. You almost wouldn’t believe his stat line in 17.2 MPG was 4.4/2.1/3.0. It’s almost like he shot very well but almost never shot with any kind of volume. I wonder what a deeper dive reveals.

See for yourself.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/inglejo01.html

Oh, for context, Kyle a guy who I hated and was glad to see gone, but at least was good at defense, in 22.6 MPG 6.4/3.5/4.2. If you extend out Jingles Minutes, probably amounts to the same, just without good defense.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderky01.html

However, with much better shooting meaning much better spacing in those minutes. Actually whoever we replace Kyle's minutes with will give us better spacing.

[KGdaBom]

KA played in 79 games and a total of 1782 minutes that needs to be replaced. I think Ingles will get most of them.

Keep in mind that the trio of guards we tried out last year (Milton, McLaughlin, Morris) amounts to an average of 12.6 minutes per game. Dillingham will almost certainly see more than that. Some will come from Conley's minutes load, but I'd also expect some to come from Anderson's load as he was the de facto lead guard many times.

I think Ingles is more likely to top out at the 12 mpg the small guards got last year, while Dillingham gets the 20-25 minutes Anderson would get.

I still think we go with a 9-10 man rotation throughout the year.

Gobert
Towns
McD
Ant
Conley
Reid
Ingles
Dilly
NAW
Shannon?

I'd remove the ? mark on Shannon and add Miller with the ? mark.

[KGdaBom]

Keep in mind that the trio of guards we tried out last year (Milton, McLaughlin, Morris) amounts to an average of 12.6 minutes per game. Dillingham will almost certainly see more than that. Some will come from Conley's minutes load, but I'd also expect some to come from Anderson's load as he was the de facto lead guard many times.

I think Ingles is more likely to top out at the 12 mpg the small guards got last year, while Dillingham gets the 20-25 minutes Anderson would get.

I still think we go with a 9-10 man rotation throughout the year.

Gobert
Towns
McD
Ant
Conley
Reid
Ingles
Dilly
NAW
Shannon?

Change the order, hopefully Miller is rotation worthy, top 7 from last year followed by RD, Shannon, Miller, and then Ingles. I expect Ingles to be more of a player coach who fulls in for injuries or foul trouble. That said, I have been way off this off season so take my prediction with boatload of salt.

Dilly will likely get more minutes than NAW. Then NAW, Shannon, Ingles and Miller. It would be nice to have another good option at PG, but we're better off in that position than we were last year and Ingles replaces Kyle's playmaking somewhat. It's a great time to be a Wolves fan.

[Klomp]

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[winforlose]

The more I look into the Ingles signing the more I love it. Check out Ben Beecken going over the stats. His stats were crazy good, but on moderate to low volume and his Defense was passable.

Watch on YouTube

Very impressive. You almost wouldn’t believe his stat line in 17.2 MPG was 4.4/2.1/3.0. It’s almost like he shot very well but almost never shot with any kind of volume. I wonder what a deeper dive reveals.

See for yourself.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/inglejo01.html

Oh, for context, Kyle a guy who I hated and was glad to see gone, but at least was good at defense, in 22.6 MPG 6.4/3.5/4.2. If you extend out Jingles Minutes, probably amounts to the same, just without good defense.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderky01.html

However, with much better shooting meaning much better spacing in those minutes. Actually whoever we replace Kyle's minutes with will give us better spacing.

Two thumbs up and imaginary toast to that. I was not, am not, and will never be a fan of the Kyle who cannot shoot. When he does shoot, I am significantly more fine with him. But year 2 Kyle can go far, far away and be someone else’s fan board problem

[Klomp]

I still think we go with a 9-10 man rotation throughout the year.

This seems to go against Finch's philosophy for most of his time here. It might be extended as he's figuring out lineup configurations, but once he's got that set, he likes to keep it pretty trimmed up.

[KGdaBom]

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Go Joe Go!! Give him just enough minutes to keep him sharp.

[KGdaBom]

I still think we go with a 9-10 man rotation throughout the year.

This seems to go against Finch's philosophy for most of his time here. It might be extended as he's figuring out lineup configurations, but once he's got that set, he likes to keep it pretty trimmed up.

I heard on a YouTube today that we are unlikely to have a single player, other than Rudy, getting minutes that will be a liability from distance. That is really nice.

[KGdaBom]

I still think we go with a 9-10 man rotation throughout the year.

This seems to go against Finch's philosophy for most of his time here. It might be extended as he's figuring out lineup configurations, but once he's got that set, he likes to keep it pretty trimmed up.

We have more talented players now. He may need to open it up a little.

[Klomp]

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Like Ingles, Edwards has made a name for himself as one of the NBA's most prolific and entertaining trash-talkers, but the Australian says he has no plans to poke his new teammate.

"He's good," Ingles said of Edwards' trash talk. "I'll save it for someone else.

[But], it's exciting. It's obviously a really good team. Western Conference finals this year. Just going in there fully understanding the role they have for me. Trying to help Rudy, trying to help Ant, trying to help all these guys get better and hopefully go further.

"When the opportunity came up and you speak more in depth about the basketball side, especially with the stuff I'm saying - you still wanna play, you still wanna compete - it's a basketball opportunity that was too good to give up."

[Klomp]

This video is chock full of good info

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[cmoss84]

We have enough depth to have hockey lines and run other teams into the ground. If we can stay healthy. That means our 10-14 will feast when other teams are tired!

[Klomp]

I'm honestly not sure what fantasy land some of you live in.

[cmoss84]

I bet TSJ and Miller both get 10 minutes a night.

[Nick K]

Keep in mind that the trio of guards we tried out last year (Milton, McLaughlin, Morris) amounts to an average of 12.6 minutes per game. Dillingham will almost certainly see more than that. Some will come from Conley's minutes load, but I'd also expect some to come from Anderson's load as he was the de facto lead guard many times.

I think Ingles is more likely to top out at the 12 mpg the small guards got last year, while Dillingham gets the 20-25 minutes Anderson would get.

I still think we go with a 9-10 man rotation throughout the year.

Gobert
Towns
McD
Ant
Conley
Reid
Ingles
Dilly
NAW
Shannon?

I'd remove the ? mark on Shannon and add Miller with the ? mark.

That very well could be. I'm excited to see what Miller can do.

[BlacJacMac]

The more I look into the Ingles signing the more I love it. Check out Ben Beecken going over the stats. His stats were crazy good, but on moderate to low volume and his Defense was passable.

Watch on YouTube

Very impressive. You almost wouldn’t believe his stat line in 17.2 MPG was 4.4/2.1/3.0. It’s almost like he shot very well but almost never shot with any kind of volume. I wonder what a deeper dive reveals.

See for yourself.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/inglejo01.html

Oh, for context, Kyle a guy who I hated and was glad to see gone, but at least was good at defense, in 22.6 MPG 6.4/3.5/4.2. If you extend out Jingles Minutes, probably amounts to the same, just without good defense.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderky01.html

Ingles:
On Court: .569 eFG%, 118.7 ORtg
Off Court: .530 eFG%, 111.8 ORtg

Anderson:
On Court: .537 eFG%, 113.7 ORtg
Off Court: .577 eFG%, 117.9 ORtg

But yeah, stick with PPG for the measure of their offensive impact...

[KGdaBom]

The more I look into the Ingles signing the more I love it. Check out Ben Beecken going over the stats. His stats were crazy good, but on moderate to low volume and his Defense was passable.

Watch on YouTube

Very impressive. You almost wouldn’t believe his stat line in 17.2 MPG was 4.4/2.1/3.0. It’s almost like he shot very well but almost never shot with any kind of volume. I wonder what a deeper dive reveals.

See for yourself.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/inglejo01.html

Oh, for context, Kyle a guy who I hated and was glad to see gone, but at least was good at defense, in 22.6 MPG 6.4/3.5/4.2. If you extend out Jingles Minutes, probably amounts to the same, just without good defense.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderky01.html

Ingles:
On Court: .569 eFG%, 118.7 ORtg
Off Court: .530 eFG%, 111.8 ORtg

Anderson:
On Court: .537 eFG%, 113.7 ORtg
Off Court: .577 eFG%, 117.9 ORtg

But yeah, stick with PPG for the measure of their offensive impact...

The plot thickens, things get more interesting......

[MN7725]

I still think we go with a 9-10 man rotation throughout the year.

This seems to go against Finch's philosophy for most of his time here. It might be extended as he's figuring out lineup configurations, but once he's got that set, he likes to keep it pretty trimmed up.

I don't think Finch is different than any coach that has a competitive team, playing competitive games without much garbage time

its just really tough for players to get in any type of rhythm unless they are playing 12+ minutes, and its usually 6-7 minute stints each half

typically its 3-4 minutes at the end of a quarter, then to begin the next quarter

they aren't going to sub out Jaden at 4 minute mark in 1st quarter for Ingles to finish out the quarter, then sit Ingles to play Shannon for 4-5 minutes in 2nd quarter before Jaden comes back in, for example.

Early foul trouble changes that somewhat, where some shorter stints become available since the starters minutes are limited, but thats about it

[winforlose]

The more I look into the Ingles signing the more I love it. Check out Ben Beecken going over the stats. His stats were crazy good, but on moderate to low volume and his Defense was passable.

Watch on YouTube

Very impressive. You almost wouldn’t believe his stat line in 17.2 MPG was 4.4/2.1/3.0. It’s almost like he shot very well but almost never shot with any kind of volume. I wonder what a deeper dive reveals.

See for yourself.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/inglejo01.html

Oh, for context, Kyle a guy who I hated and was glad to see gone, but at least was good at defense, in 22.6 MPG 6.4/3.5/4.2. If you extend out Jingles Minutes, probably amounts to the same, just without good defense.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderky01.html

Ingles:
On Court: .569 eFG%, 118.7 ORtg
Off Court: .530 eFG%, 111.8 ORtg

Anderson:
On Court: .537 eFG%, 113.7 ORtg
Off Court: .577 eFG%, 117.9 ORtg

But yeah, stick with PPG for the measure of their offensive impact...

I guess you missed the part where I included assists and rebounds, cause those never have anything to offensive impact . Let me ask you, do you think it is at all possible that when a team has better numbers with a backup than a starter, it could have anything to do with the opponents playing their backups? Also, Kyle Anderson’s offensive impact is way worse than those numbers suggest. I don’t know enough about how advanced stats are calculated to determine it, but I highly suspect that his impact is dramatically worse. Choosing to play Kyle on offense was like choosing to contract an STD, benching him was like taking an antibiotic. If Jingles is worse on offense that wouldn’t be sad, it would be a GREEK ********* TRAGEDY!

[Slim Tubby]

I'm honestly not sure what fantasy land some of you live in.

It's a great place to visit!

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