Knicks current cap situation

[j4remi]

Aller is already game planning how many contracts of what value can be put in future trades, collecting different sized ones for max flexibility. I'm sure he and the rest of the front office has game planned the scenarios around Randle extending or not, Brunson $, etc

Brock's the FO's best weapon

[Richard4444]

the Knicks are now only 700K above the tax threshold… trading either Sims or Jeffries puts us on a position to have a full MLE to pay two players plus Achiuwa if he stays for below 5M per, without reaching the 2nd apron

Mitch / Kessler* / Hukporti
Randle / Achiuwa / Diop
Anunoby / Hart / Dadiet
Bridges / Donte / McCuller
Brunson / Lowry* / Kolek

*either Crowder, Jeff Green, Wagnes or Saric if we keep McBride and cant trade for Kessler… even then we might still have some room to sign Lowry (Tyus Jones would also be a good pickup)… Rokas and another youngster or veteran to make it 17

NO.

If we used the full MLE, we become hard-capped at the first apron.

Jeffries is not on the team for now.

[Richard4444]

yeah that really cleared things up

I know we can't exceed the 2nd apron, but can we spend up to it? that's the sticking point for me.

in a nutshell, how much flow do we have to spend on players? besides the $5.2 mil TPMLE?

Only min deals, trades (without giving away more salary), and sign and trades (with BYC rules).

[KOA]

My guess is that they are exploring trade options, and if none of those work out, we’ll bring back Precious and hold onto the tax payer MLE for potential buyout/waiver wire candidates

[Jalen Bluntson]

yeah that really cleared things up

I know we can't exceed the 2nd apron, but can we spend up to it? that's the sticking point for me.

in a nutshell, how much flow do we have to spend on players? besides the $5.2 mil TPMLE?

Only min deals, trades (without giving away more salary), and sign and trades (with BYC rules).

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

[NYKinMIA]

[Richard4444]

yeah that really cleared things up

I know we can't exceed the 2nd apron, but can we spend up to it? that's the sticking point for me.

in a nutshell, how much flow do we have to spend on players? besides the $5.2 mil TPMLE?

Only min deals, trades (without giving away more salary), and sign and trades (with BYC rules).

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

Probably. But it should freeze the 2032 or 2033 pick I guess.

[Richard4444]

Aller is already game planning how many contracts of what value can be put in future trades, collecting different sized ones for max flexibility. I'm sure he and the rest of the front office has game planned the scenarios around Randle extending or not, Brunson $, etc

Brock's the FO's best weapon

He is the CBA MacGyver.

[Luv those Knicks]

yeah that really cleared things up

I know we can't exceed the 2nd apron, but can we spend up to it? that's the sticking point for me.

in a nutshell, how much flow do we have to spend on players? besides the $5.2 mil TPMLE?

Only min deals, trades (without giving away more salary), and sign and trades (with BYC rules).

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

I think the picks "freeze" - is freeze the right word? I think that happens only if you're over the Apron 2 years in a row.

They move to the end of the first round, which would be funny since Brooklyn has half our picks, but, cross that banana when we come to it. It's all about this year for now. Next year, maybe resign Brunson & Randle. 2026, maybe resign Bridges & Mitch (or trade mitch). The way the contracts are staggered, they have a shot at keeping everyone and maybe avoiding the 2nd Apron, or maybe going over it a year or two, but I don't think it's a big deal since they seem to have pretty good depth.

[Luv those Knicks]

yeah that really cleared things up

I know we can't exceed the 2nd apron, but can we spend up to it? that's the sticking point for me.

in a nutshell, how much flow do we have to spend on players? besides the $5.2 mil TPMLE?

Only min deals, trades (without giving away more salary), and sign and trades (with BYC rules).

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

It depends how much the Knicks sign them for and what other (if any) cost saving moves the Knicks make.

[Richard4444]

Only min deals, trades (without giving away more salary), and sign and trades (with BYC rules).

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

I think the picks "freeze" - is freeze the right word? I think that happens only if you're over the Apron 2 years in a row.

They move to the end of the first round, which would be funny since Brooklyn has half our picks, but, cross that banana when we come to it. It's all about this year for now. Next year, maybe resign Brunson & Randle. 2026, maybe resign Bridges & Mitch (or trade mitch). The way the contracts are staggered, they have a shot at keeping everyone and maybe avoiding the 2nd Apron, or maybe going over it a year or two, but I don't think it's a big deal since they seem to have pretty good depth.

If you surpass the second apron, the pick freezes (meaning you can not traded it).

If you keep over the second apron for 3 seasons, the pick will be the last one.

[Jalen Bluntson]

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

I think the picks "freeze" - is freeze the right word? I think that happens only if you're over the Apron 2 years in a row.

They move to the end of the first round, which would be funny since Brooklyn has half our picks, but, cross that banana when we come to it. It's all about this year for now. Next year, maybe resign Brunson & Randle. 2026, maybe resign Bridges & Mitch (or trade mitch). The way the contracts are staggered, they have a shot at keeping everyone and maybe avoiding the 2nd Apron, or maybe going over it a year or two, but I don't think it's a big deal since they seem to have pretty good depth.

If you surpass the second apron, the pick freezes (meaning you can not traded it).

If you keep over the second apron for 3 seasons, the pick will be the last one.

It's not just one pick though. I read on here it's every pick cannot be traded. Need to verify that. It won't matter for us because we can't trade any picks for the next 7 years anyway. Moving forward it may come into play though.

I trust the FO can manage the cap and make the most sense of things that matter. They have not been perfect(no GM is) but, they have done what no other FO could pull off for two decades. Sustainable championship contender after winning 21 games before they arrived four years ago while keeping Dolan out of the way. It still seems surreal considering the path they took.

Let's fuggin go Knicks!!

[Richard4444]

I think the picks "freeze" - is freeze the right word? I think that happens only if you're over the Apron 2 years in a row.

They move to the end of the first round, which would be funny since Brooklyn has half our picks, but, cross that banana when we come to it. It's all about this year for now. Next year, maybe resign Brunson & Randle. 2026, maybe resign Bridges & Mitch (or trade mitch). The way the contracts are staggered, they have a shot at keeping everyone and maybe avoiding the 2nd Apron, or maybe going over it a year or two, but I don't think it's a big deal since they seem to have pretty good depth.

If you surpass the second apron, the pick freezes (meaning you can not traded it).

If you keep over the second apron for 3 seasons, the pick will be the last one.

It's not just one pick though. I read on here it's every pick cannot be traded. Need to verify that. It won't matter for us because we can't trade any picks for the next 7 years anyway. Moving forward it may come into play though.

I trust the FO can manage the cap and make the most sense of things that matter. They have not been perfect(no GM is) but, they have done what no other FO could pull off for two decades. Sustainable championship contender after winning 21 games before they arrived four years ago while keeping Dolan out of the way. It still seems surreal considering the path they took.

Let's fuggin go Knicks!!

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If you surpass the second apron, the pick freezes (meaning you can not traded it).

If you keep over the second apron for 3 seasons, the pick will be the last one.

It's not just one pick though. I read on here it's every pick cannot be traded. Need to verify that. It won't matter for us because we can't trade any picks for the next 7 years anyway. Moving forward it may come into play though.

I trust the FO can manage the cap and make the most sense of things that matter. They have not been perfect(no GM is) but, they have done what no other FO could pull off for two decades. Sustainable championship contender after winning 21 games before they arrived four years ago while keeping Dolan out of the way. It still seems surreal considering the path they took.

Let's fuggin go Knicks!!

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The more I learn about this new CBA, the more I realize it’s some bullchit. The Player’s Union actually agreed to all these booby-trap terms?

[StlHawksFan]

yeah that really cleared things up

I know we can't exceed the 2nd apron, but can we spend up to it? that's the sticking point for me.

in a nutshell, how much flow do we have to spend on players? besides the $5.2 mil TPMLE?

Only min deals, trades (without giving away more salary), and sign and trades (with BYC rules).

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

No because those don't kick in until later -- and the cap is expected to rise a lot with the new TV deal.

[Richard4444]

Only min deals, trades (without giving away more salary), and sign and trades (with BYC rules).

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

No because those don't kick in until later -- and the cap is expected to rise a lot with the new TV deal.

It will kick in next offseason when the second apron should be 208M (max).

However, if they accept a team-friendly deal, Randle and Brunson should get at least a 10M raise each.

Assuming we will spend at least 185M this season, it will be challenging to keep us from the second apron next season with a lot of players getting raises too.

[Capn'O]

It's not just one pick though. I read on here it's every pick cannot be traded. Need to verify that. It won't matter for us because we can't trade any picks for the next 7 years anyway. Moving forward it may come into play though.

I trust the FO can manage the cap and make the most sense of things that matter. They have not been perfect(no GM is) but, they have done what no other FO could pull off for two decades. Sustainable championship contender after winning 21 games before they arrived four years ago while keeping Dolan out of the way. It still seems surreal considering the path they took.

Let's fuggin go Knicks!!

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The more I learn about this new CBA, the more I realize it’s some bullchit. The Player’s Union actually agreed to all these booby-trap terms?

I don't even understand the point of that rule above. Who was lobbying for it?

[Richard4444]

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The more I learn about this new CBA, the more I realize it’s some bullchit. The Player’s Union actually agreed to all these booby-trap terms?

I don't even understand the point of that rule above. Who was lobbying for it?

Small market teams are afraid of big markets paying 500M a season to buy their championships.

[StlHawksFan]

We can still re sign Precious using cap space/bird rights as well.

Those picks freeze issues only happen if we go over the second apron. Does that mean if we extend JB/Julius we freeze the picks as well?

No because those don't kick in until later -- and the cap is expected to rise a lot with the new TV deal.

It will kick in next offseason when the second apron should be 208M (max).

However, if they accept a team-friendly deal, Randle and Brunson should get at least a 10M raise each.

Assuming we will spend at least 185M this season, it will be challenging to keep us from the second apron next season with a lot of players getting raises too.

This is why contenders rely on vet min contracts to fill out their rosters.

[StlHawksFan]

The more I learn about this new CBA, the more I realize it’s some bullchit. The Player’s Union actually agreed to all these booby-trap terms?

I don't even understand the point of that rule above. Who was lobbying for it?

Small market teams are afraid of big markets paying 500M a season to buy their championships.

Golden State was well over $300M including luxury tax dollars at their peak.