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Post#181 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:44 pm

I think thy could easily be traded away for less money. It is also quite likely he opts out next off season
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Post#182 » by Butter » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:06 pm

No one saw the Dame trade to the Bucks, or the Deni trade. Let's see what Cronin has up his sleeve.
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Post#183 » by Pattycakes » Thu Jul 4, 2024 8:46 pm

Butter wrote:No one saw the Dame trade to the Bucks, or the Deni trade. Let's see what Cronin has up his sleeve.


I think it’s just as likely someone undercuts the lakers with a better offer at the last second as the lakers getting JG. Either way I trust the Crone
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Post#184 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jul 4, 2024 10:38 pm

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Butter wrote:No one saw the Dame trade to the Bucks, or the Deni trade. Let's see what Cronin has up his sleeve.


I think it’s just as likely someone undercuts the lakers with a better offer at the last second as the lakers getting JG. Either way I trust the Crone


Yeah I'm curious what happens either way. I suspect la is trying to do a deal without picks and cronin is aiming to get some semblance of value and if we can get what we paid in a first we probably jump on It
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Post#185 » by Wizenheimer » Thu Jul 4, 2024 11:08 pm

Butter wrote:No one saw the Dame trade to the Bucks, or the Deni trade. Let's see what Cronin has up his sleeve.


actually...a poster here (Goldbum?) said he heard from a source that Portland was trying hard to land Avdija. He said that here a couple of weeks before the trade
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Post#186 » by Butter » Thu Jul 4, 2024 11:36 pm

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Butter wrote:No one saw the Dame trade to the Bucks, or the Deni trade. Let's see what Cronin has up his sleeve.


actually...a poster here (Goldbum?) said he heard from a source that Portland was trying hard to land Avdija. He said that here a couple of weeks before the trade


Ok, aside from Goldbum. My point is/was that the current front office seems to play their cards closer to the vest. We haven't heard about trades in mainstream media until they're done recently.
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Post#187 » by PDXKnight » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:31 pm

If push comes to shove and the stars dont align I actually think we can work with Grant a little while longer than ant assuming he's willing to take on a more limited offensive role. Deni/camara/walker at the 3/4 along with ayton and white Jordan at Cener somewhat make up for jeramis rebounding liability.
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Post#188 » by Goldbum » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:45 pm

I think it's crazy that people are upset about Deni. It was expensive buy as I see it most people would be doing backflips if it had been Franz, but Deni is a better get on the best contract in the league.
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Post#189 » by JasonStern » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:45 pm

Goldbum wrote:I think it's crazy that people are upset about Deni. It was expensive buy as I see it most people would be doing backflips if it had been Franz, but Deni is a better get on the best contract in the league.


It's not crazy. It was an overpay. But a 23 year old lotto pick wing that has proven himself in the league on a nice contract isn't going to come cheap. Even with the overpay, I don't know what the Wizards were thinking unless Bub Carrington turns out to be one of the most undervalued players in this year's draft.

Now we just need a young power forward (and no, Grant is not that guy). Then we have a solid young core moving forward.
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Post#190 » by Goldbum » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:03 pm

I still thinks Eason is worth pursuing hard. I'm not reporting it, just saying we need to be real interested. I'm hearing he's "gettable" and I love the idea of an Eason/Advija forward pairing. Some sort of 3 team deal that sends out Jerami and returns Eason + a 1st and an expiring would be incredible.
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Post#191 » by Norm2953 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:08 pm

Let's see if a Grant deal with LA gets done today before Lebron's new extension is final.
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Post#192 » by Walton1one » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:37 pm

I sure hope Grant is dealt today, or sometime soon, I’d like to see Simons traded as well. As long as those two guys are on the team, they are going to be taking a lot of the shots, and it’s hard to see what you’ve got in Scoot\Sharpe and POR is going to have to make some financial decisions In the near future, and I would think they would want to know whether they are worth the money or not

I do not think that Avdija was a huge overpay, the guy is younger than Knecht and already has 4yrs!!! playing in the NBA & is coming off his best year and is on a ridiculously team friendly contract for the next 4 years

and what did POR give up?


#14? You HOPE that whomever you pick at #14 turns out as good as Avdija, but history shows they often don’t and whom would POR fans have been clamoring for POR to take? Knecht most likely & he is older than Avdija

What else? Two 2nd rounders? They got that back +1 by trading #34

So, that leaves a 29’ 1st, 2nd most favorable b/t POR\BOS\MIL. Could have some value, could just be a mid 1st and POR still has the best of those 3 picks, so unless 2 of those teams are lottery, the pick is likely of mediocre value and of course we have no ideas what the strength of that draft will be,

It’s a cost, not inconsequential, but not a huge overpay like some people claim.
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Post#193 » by JRoy » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:41 pm

Goldbum wrote:I still thinks Eason is worth pursuing hard. I'm not reporting it, just saying we need to be real interested. I'm hearing he's "gettable" and I love the idea of an Eason/Advija forward pairing. Some sort of 3 team deal that sends out Jerami and returns Eason + a 1st and an expiring would be incredible.


Hope you’re right.

I didn’t think Avdija was possible and here he is.
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Post#194 » by Walton1one » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:49 pm

Grant for Green/Tate/Eason & a future 1st could work?
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Post#195 » by Wizenheimer » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:55 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Let's see if a Grant deal with LA gets done today before Lebron's new extension is final.


it doesn't really matter, one way or the other. With the reported extension value, as long a the Lakers don't officially sign Bronny, they are about 600K under the 2nd apron so they could still aggregate salaries in a trade just as long as the trade doesn't push them over the apron

however, based upon the rumors, I don't think there will be a trade. If Cronin is actually demanding two 1st's from the Lakers, with their situation both 1st's would have to be unprotected. That would be a ridiculous demand from Cronin. Absolutely nuts and I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers have already told him to go pound sand
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Post#196 » by Village Idiot » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:59 pm

Goldbum wrote:I still thinks Eason is worth pursuing hard. I'm not reporting it, just saying we need to be real interested. I'm hearing he's "gettable" and I love the idea of an Eason/Advija forward pairing. Some sort of 3 team deal that sends out Jerami and returns Eason + a 1st and an expiring would be incredible.
I'd love to get Eason too.

I wonder how much Udoka would like to have Robert Williams as a defense platoon with Sengun at center. Could Timeloard be the centerpiece?
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Post#197 » by Norm2953 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 5:05 pm

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Goldbum wrote:I still thinks Eason is worth pursuing hard. I'm not reporting it, just saying we need to be real interested. I'm hearing he's "gettable" and I love the idea of an Eason/Advija forward pairing. Some sort of 3 team deal that sends out Jerami and returns Eason + a 1st and an expiring would be incredible.
I'd love to get Eason too.

I wonder how much Udoka would like to have Robert Williams as a defense platoon with Sengun at center. Could Timeloard be the centerpiece?


Rockets do have Steven Adams back from injury to play center. Unlikely they would want two guys
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Post#198 » by Norm2953 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 5:13 pm

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Norm2953 wrote:Let's see if a Grant deal with LA gets done today before Lebron's new extension is final.


it doesn't really matter, one way or the other. With the reported extension value, as long a the Lakers don't officially sign Bronny, they are about 600K under the 2nd apron so they could still aggregate salaries in a trade just as long as the trade doesn't push them over the apron

however, based upon the rumors, I don't think there will be a trade. If Cronin is actually demanding two 1st's from the Lakers, with their situation both 1st's would have to be unprotected. That would be a ridiculous demand from Cronin. Absolutely nuts and I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers have already told him to go pound sand


I've been skeptical of a Grant trade with LA as well but let's say its Knecht and a more lightly protected FRP
down the line that gets the trade done. LA moves all the other filler they need to get the trade legal.

As I understand it, there is still some talk between Lebron's agent and the team to craft the extension
to keep the Lakers under the second apron. Knicks just modified their Bridges trade to keep themselves
below the first apron. Nothing is official until Saturday.
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Post#199 » by Wizenheimer » Fri Jul 5, 2024 5:35 pm

Norm2953 wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:Let's see if a Grant deal with LA gets done today before Lebron's new extension is final.


it doesn't really matter, one way or the other. With the reported extension value, as long a the Lakers don't officially sign Bronny, they are about 600K under the 2nd apron so they could still aggregate salaries in a trade just as long as the trade doesn't push them over the apron

however, based upon the rumors, I don't think there will be a trade. If Cronin is actually demanding two 1st's from the Lakers, with their situation both 1st's would have to be unprotected. That would be a ridiculous demand from Cronin. Absolutely nuts and I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers have already told him to go pound sand


I've been skeptical of a Grant trade with LA as well but let's say its Knecht and a more lightly protected FRP
down the line that gets the trade done. LA moves all the other filler they need to get the trade legal.

As I understand it, there is still some talk between Lebron's agent and the team to craft the extension
to keep the Lakers under the second apron. Knicks just modified their Bridges trade to keep themselves
below the first apron. Nothing is official until Saturday.


according to Spotrac, a website that gets high marks for accuracy, with Lebron's extension added, the Lakers are 600K below the 2nd apron. But that does not include Bronny's contract. Once that is added, the Laker would be 1M over that apron. So, one of their priorities in a Grant trade would be sending out at least 1M more than they took back

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/yearly

as for Knecht, I'd be really surprised if the Lakers were willing to move him. And I don't know that the Blazers would want him
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Post#200 » by Butter » Fri Jul 5, 2024 6:06 pm

I keep thinking Houston could be a sneaky good landing spot for Grant. They could use a veteran to balance out some if that youth, and they still have a stockpile of picks.
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