GSW - Portland - NOP

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:10 pm

New Orleans out: Ingram
New Orleans in: Ayton, 2026 GSW 1st, worse of GSW or POR/MIL 2028 1st

Portland out: Ayton
Portland in: Wiggins, Looney, 2028 swap rights with GSW 1st

GSW out: Wiggins, Payton, Looney, 2026 1st, 2028 1st, future 2nd(s)
GSW in: Ingram

Random cap team: eat payton for 2nd(s)

Why for GSW: get a 2nd option
Why for Portland: add an asset (by taking back a diff bad salary) for Ayton, free up PT for Clingan
Why for NOP: add a starting C and restock some picks for ingram

Feel free to debate protection on the picks

Village Idiot · Post #2 » by **Village Idiot** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:28 pm

This would be fantastic for Portland, especially if they can flip Wiggins and Looney elsewhere for more value.

Pattycakes · Post #3 » by **Pattycakes** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:45 pm

Blazers are not dumping ayton. That is all

vetmin · Post #4 » by **vetmin** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:46 pm

As a Warriors fan I like the general framework as a fallback plan if we can't get Lauri. If that's two unprotected 1sts plus 2nds though, it seems a little rich to me.

The-Power · Post #5 » by **The-Power** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:46 pm

Personally, I'm not interested in Ingram for the Warriors. He'll be paid a ton of money and he's not good enough to warrant that kind of investment, there are obvious injury concerns with him, and I don't see the fit being good. I'm definitely not willing to add our FRPs in that kind of deal.

Warriorfan · Post #6 » by **Warriorfan** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:12 pm

Warriors are 20 games missed by Curry from being a lottery team so would never trade future picks unprotected.

Would rather gamble on Kuminga becoming and Wiggins/Hield returning to being 20 pt scorers as 2/3 options.

Post #7 » by **gswhoops** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:58 pm

Yeah I think there would have to be some level of protection on the picks/swaps we're sending out (at least top 4) but otherwise I would be on board with this.

JRoy · Post #8 » by **JRoy** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:07 pm

Didn’t GSW cut Looney?

Godaddycurse · Post #9 » by **Godaddycurse** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:09 pm

JRoy wrote:Didn’t GSW cut Looney?

They guaranteed his contract

Wizenheimer · Post #10 » by **Wizenheimer** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:44 pm

Pattycakes wrote:Blazers are not dumping ayton. That is all

they should. He's an empty calorie C

Wizenheimer · Post #11 » by **Wizenheimer** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:48 pm

Portland's 2028 1st is in the jail. If it's not in the lottery, it goes to Chicago. If it is in the lottery, it can be swapped with Milwaukee's 1st. Adding another level of swap makes no sense and I really doubt the Blazers are going to trade Ayton for a swap anyway. they'd need an unencumbered 1st with some level of protection being OK

Blaze the Nugz · Post #12 » by **Blaze the Nugz** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 6:14 pm

I would expect Portland to demand more value for Ayton than this. It would be tough to find a new home for Wiggins and they already have two guys to find a suitor for in Ant and Grant.

NW · Post #13 » by NW » Fri Jul 5, 2024 6:34 pm

As a Warriors fan, an overpay with picks has to be for a guy that is a perfect fit on the team Ala Bridges to the Knicks. He’s not worth all they paid for him in a vacuum, but he’s worth that to the Knicks cause he’s such a great all around fit.

Lauri would be that for GS. Ingram not so much imo

Myth · Post #14 » by **Myth** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 6:35 pm

I also think Blazers can get more assets than this for Ayton. Much more? No. But still more and if they can’t get it, I’m fine keeping Ayton for now.

JasonStern · Post #15 » by **JasonStern** » Fri Jul 5, 2024 11:53 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
Pattycakes wrote:Blazers are not dumping ayton. That is all

they should. He's an empty calorie C

The Ayton and Simons hate really needs to calm down. They are perfectly adequate stopgap players.

OutsidetheNBA · Post #16 » by **OutsidetheNBA** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:28 am

Wiggins contract and motivational issues make him a negative for a rebuilding Blazers team if they kept him.

But would he have positive value on the trade market? I would guess you could get an expiring for him + a 2nd, but not much else. Am I underestimating his value?

Even if Wiggins is neutral, Ayton has value for the Blazers and I would not trade him for a single swap from a good franchise.

BayAreaDub · Post #17 » by **BayAreaDub** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:50 am

Jesus the Blazer fans are overrating Ayton in here. Y’all need to relax. Ayton has contract and motivational issues as well. Both have a too much smoking pot problem

The Pelicans are the ones getting screwed on this deal but as a dubs fan I say yes to this in a heartbeat.

Wizenheimer · Post #18 » by **Wizenheimer** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:27 am

JasonStern wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
Pattycakes wrote:Blazers are not dumping ayton. That is all

they should. He's an empty calorie C

The Ayton and Simons hate really needs to calm down. They are perfectly adequate stopgap players.

I don't know what an "adequate stopgap" player is. Is it anything like overpaid low-impact role players?

what really need to calm down is labeling realistic evaluations of players as "hate"

Coxy · Post #19 » by **Coxy** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:57 am

This is a definite no from this Warriors fan. Not a chance I pay this much for Ingram.

Whole Truth · Post #20 » by **Whole Truth** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 11:09 am

Ayton is not how Green wants to ultimately defend & play with pace but he would be a solid enough stop gap option which would bide NO's time to adequately address, if necessary.

I like the projections on the 2 picks.

I'd accept.