Post draft/mid FA check-in:
Grant/Murray for Barnes/Huerter/27 first/28 swap.
Portland creates two moveable contracts and draft capital. They likely lose a couple more games too which helps the #bepoop4coop campaign. The 28 swap is in hopes that 4 years from now they are on the upswing and Sac is crashing.
Kings add the needed length and athleticism. Carter/Murray/Grant check those boxes, Monte could claim he filled the needs.
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SNPA wrote:Post draft/mid FA check-in:
Grant/Murray for Barnes/Huerter/27 first/28 swap.
Portland creates two moveable contracts and draft capital. They likely lose a couple more games too which helps the #bepoop4coop campaign. The 28 swap is in hopes that 4 years from now they are on the upswing and Sac is crashing.
Kings add the needed length and athleticism. Carter/Murray/Grant check those boxes, Monte could claim he filled the needs.
Switch the swap for SRP and I would do that so long as Huerter could be moved for value.
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There is no world where I offer any kind of draft picks for Jerami Grant on that insane contract.
He’s not that guy and it’s a cap crippler.
He’s not that guy and it’s a cap crippler.
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OGSactownballer wrote:There is no world where I offer any kind of draft picks for Jerami Grant on that insane contract.
He’s not that guy and it’s a cap crippler.
30/32/34/36
It’s not that bad anymore. You’d rather BI on a 4/200?
Getting Kris Murray on his rookie deal helps offset it too.
It solves the length and athleticism issue. It’s a better team, and Sac has to make the playoffs or this whole thing could very quickly blow up. Vivek fires Monte in the off-season. GM wants a new coach, lame duck year, Browm fired following season. Blah blah. We’ve seen this.
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OGSactownballer wrote:There is no world where I offer any kind of draft picks for Jerami Grant on that insane contract.
He’s not that guy and it’s a cap crippler.
Totally understandable but Huerter and Barnes are a clear downgrade. Not downgrading without incentive.
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JRoy wrote:SNPA wrote:Post draft/mid FA check-in:
Grant/Murray for Barnes/Huerter/27 first/28 swap.
Portland creates two moveable contracts and draft capital. They likely lose a couple more games too which helps the #bepoop4coop campaign. The 28 swap is in hopes that 4 years from now they are on the upswing and Sac is crashing.
Kings add the needed length and athleticism. Carter/Murray/Grant check those boxes, Monte could claim he filled the needs.
Switch the swap for SRP and I would do that so long as Huerter could be moved for value.
I’ve never seen it, but I would think they could have language that says “swap and if not conveyed they get a 2nd round pick.” I’m surprised this has never happened.
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Yes from this Portland fan. We already have a swap with Milwaukee in 2028, so would want to include some language about being able to swap either our pick OR theirs, but doubt that's a big hangup on the deal. I think Barnes and Huerter would be easily movable for more smaller assets as well.
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OGSactownballer wrote:There is no world where I offer any kind of draft picks for Jerami Grant on that insane contract.
He’s not that guy and it’s a cap crippler.
We’re paying no matter who we get unless it’s Kuzma and Grant is the better defender/Shooter. That trade needs to happen soon cause Angie just playing games about lauri
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OGSactownballer wrote:There is no world where I offer any kind of draft picks for Jerami Grant on that insane contract.
He’s not that guy and it’s a cap crippler.
In the context of the new TV deal, Grant's contract is not insane. Just look at the contracts being signed this Summer.
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Jkam31 wrote:OGSactownballer wrote:There is no world where I offer any kind of draft picks for Jerami Grant on that insane contract.
He’s not that guy and it’s a cap crippler.
We’re paying no matter who we get unless it’s Kuzma and Grant is the better defender/Shooter. That trade needs to happen soon cause Angie just playing games about lauri
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BoogieTime wrote:Jkam31 wrote:OGSactownballer wrote:There is no world where I offer any kind of draft picks for Jerami Grant on that insane contract.
He’s not that guy and it’s a cap crippler.
We’re paying no matter who we get unless it’s Kuzma and Grant is the better defender/Shooter. That trade needs to happen soon cause Angie just playing games about lauri
ingram
- As a 2nd option behind Lillard, Grant averaged 20.6 PTS per 36 min with a .606 TS%. Ingram’s most efficient season in his career had a .587 TS%.
- Grant's a better shooter/floor spacer than Ingram
- Grant’s a better defender than Ingram (or at least has a higher defensive ceiling come crunch time and/or the playoffs).
- Although both have the length to play PF, Grant has the size/strength to defend PFs; whereas, Ingram is more of a SF/SG considering his lack of strength (which means we’re forcing Murray into the PF role which is less than ideal)
- Grant will be making ~$14-$15 mil less than Ingram (assuming he gets the max contract he’s after)
The only advantages Ingram brings over Grant is slightly better rebounding, the fact that he’s a little over 3 years younger, and that he’s a better passer. However, with guys like Fox, Sabonis, Monk, etc. all being good passers/playmakers, I don’t really consider that much of a loss.
I’d much prefer targeting Grant over Ingram as a Kings fan.
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bpcox05 wrote:BoogieTime wrote:Jkam31 wrote:
We’re paying no matter who we get unless it’s Kuzma and Grant is the better defender/Shooter. That trade needs to happen soon cause Angie just playing games about lauri
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- As a 2nd option behind Lillard, Grant averaged 20.6 PTS per 36 min with a .606 TS%. Ingram’s most efficient season in his career had a .587 TS%.
- Grant's a better shooter/floor spacer than Ingram
- Grant’s a better defender than Ingram (or at least has a higher defensive ceiling come crunch time and/or the playoffs).
- Although both have the length to play PF, Grant has the size/strength to defend PFs; whereas, Ingram is more of a SF/SG considering his lack of strength (which means we’re forcing Murray into the PF role which is less than ideal)
- Grant will be making ~$14-$15 mil less than Ingram (assuming he gets the max contract he’s after)
The only advantages Ingram brings over Grant is slightly better rebounding, the fact that he’s a little over 3 years younger, and that he’s a better passer. However, with guys like Fox, Sabonis, Monk, etc. all being good passers/playmakers, I don’t really consider that much of a loss.
I’d much prefer targeting Grant over Ingram as a Kings fan.
Grant + Kris Murray > BI @ same $ & yrs.
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