Around the NBA - Offseason Edition

[DaGawd]

this guy is beginning to break down

GSW trying to protect Wiggins by not allowing him to play in the Olympics but the Bucks are fine with their biggest asset in Giannis playing, even though he missed the entire playoffs and coming off an injury. I would block him from playing if I'm Milwaukee. Kinda glad Brunson and co. gets to heal up this summer instead of playing for Team USA.

I don't know if the comparison is quite right. Team USA does not need Wiggins at all, he would be like the 10th man or something. For Giannis, playing for Greece in the Olympics is an entire different thing and he is of utmost importance to them.

I also believe that ultimately Giannis is making that decision 100% by himself, Milwaukee likely has no say in it (they wouldn't dare to prohibit Giannis from playing in the Olympics if he wanted to). Also keep in mind that Giannis basically missed the final 2 weeks of the regular season and entire playoffs so he played like 1-2 months less than he usually does. For him it was likely a no brainer to participate in the Olympics. Actually, after having won a NBA title already I wouldn't be shocked if winning the Olympics had higher priority for Giannis than winning a second NBA title. Don't underestimate the importance of the Olympics for these players, especially the international players.

wiggins plays for canada lol


but yeah the comparison is off since the only reason gsw won’t allow wiggins to participate for canada is because they’re trying to trade him, and him getting injured would hamper that

[HopelessKnick]

GSW trying to protect Wiggins by not allowing him to play in the Olympics but the Bucks are fine with their biggest asset in Giannis playing, even though he missed the entire playoffs and coming off an injury. I would block him from playing if I'm Milwaukee. Kinda glad Brunson and co. gets to heal up this summer instead of playing for Team USA.

I don't know if the comparison is quite right. Team USA does not need Wiggins at all, he would be like the 10th man or something. For Giannis, playing for Greece in the Olympics is an entire different thing and he is of utmost importance to them.

I also believe that ultimately Giannis is making that decision 100% by himself, Milwaukee likely has no say in it (they wouldn't dare to prohibit Giannis from playing in the Olympics if he wanted to). Also keep in mind that Giannis basically missed the final 2 weeks of the regular season and entire playoffs so he played like 1-2 months less than he usually does. For him it was likely a no brainer to participate in the Olympics. Actually, after having won a NBA title already I wouldn't be shocked if winning the Olympics had higher priority for Giannis than winning a second NBA title. Don't underestimate the importance of the Olympics for these players, especially the international players.

wiggins plays for canada lol


but yeah the comparison is off since the only reason gsw won’t allow wiggins to participate for canada is because they’re trying to trade him, and him getting injured would hamper that

Haha my bad! Completely dropped the ball on that one. Was wondering myself while typing my response: "What the hell does Team USA need Wiggins for anyways?"...

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He’d be perfect for our team but there’s no way we could manage the contract

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[MrDollarBills]

Franz Wagner just got paid 54m per, 5 years.

[BKlutch]

Franz Wagner just got paid 54m per, 5 years.

So I suppose that's a bit rich for our 2nd or 3rd string center, given our current salary situation.

But at least we sent two of our most valuable team members to Brooklyn, so we have tons more cap space. Like $3M- $5M?

[WargamesX]

Franz Wagner just got paid 54m per, 5 years.

So I suppose that's a bit rich for our 2nd or 3rd string center, given our current salary situation.

But at least we sent two of our most valuable team members to Brooklyn, so we have tons more cap space. Like $3M- $5M?

I think you are thinking of Mo. Who lowkey doesn’t get that contract if his brother wasn’t Franz

[WaltFrazier]

GSW trying to protect Wiggins by not allowing him to play in the Olympics but the Bucks are fine with their biggest asset in Giannis playing, even though he missed the entire playoffs and coming off an injury. I would block him from playing if I'm Milwaukee. Kinda glad Brunson and co. gets to heal up this summer instead of playing for Team USA.

I don't know if the comparison is quite right. Team USA does not need Wiggins at all, he would be like the 10th man or something. For Giannis, playing for Greece in the Olympics is an entire different thing and he is of utmost importance to them.

I also believe that ultimately Giannis is making that decision 100% by himself, Milwaukee likely has no say in it (they wouldn't dare to prohibit Giannis from playing in the Olympics if he wanted to). Also keep in mind that Giannis basically missed the final 2 weeks of the regular season and entire playoffs so he played like 1-2 months less than he usually does. For him it was likely a no brainer to participate in the Olympics. Actually, after having won a NBA title already I wouldn't be shocked if winning the Olympics had higher priority for Giannis than winning a second NBA title. Don't underestimate the importance of the Olympics for these players, especially the international players.

wiggins plays for canada lol


but yeah the comparison is off since the only reason gsw won’t allow wiggins to participate for canada is because they’re trying to trade him, and him getting injured would hamper that

And Canada could use Wiggins even though we have our best team ever. There's something wrong with a system that lets a club keep a player out of the Olympics because they want to trade him. It wouldn't happen to a US player.

[BKlutch]

Franz Wagner just got paid 54m per, 5 years.

So I suppose that's a bit rich for our 2nd or 3rd string center, given our current salary situation.

But at least we sent two of our most valuable team members to Brooklyn, so we have tons more cap space. Like $3M- $5M?

I think you are thinking of Mo. Who lowkey doesn’t get that contract if his brother wasn’t Franz

You're right - confused the Wagners. So it's no Mo' Franz.

[nykballa2k4]

So I suppose that's a bit rich for our 2nd or 3rd string center, given our current salary situation.

But at least we sent two of our most valuable team members to Brooklyn, so we have tons more cap space. Like $3M- $5M?

I think you are thinking of Mo. Who lowkey doesn’t get that contract if his brother wasn’t Franz

You're right - confused the Wagners. So it's no Mo' Franz.

I mean, Mo Wagner is a very capable player, ideal back up. IDK wtf they are doing down there with their 4 centers all making legit money and 2 best players being big wings.

[WargamesX]

I think you are thinking of Mo. Who lowkey doesn’t get that contract if his brother wasn’t Franz

You're right - confused the Wagners. So it's no Mo' Franz.

I mean, Mo Wagner is a very capable player, ideal back up. IDK wtf they are doing down there with their 4 centers all making legit money and 2 best players being big wings.

They are big, really big. Maybe the biggest team in the league. It’s one of the reasons they gave the Knicks trouble and they would have beat the Cavs in the playoffs if Franz didn’t get the Yips.

[Ghetto Gospel]

Eh... ain't mad.

Big time LeBron hater, but he is just letting his kid force the team to invest in him.

Once LeBron retires Bronny will be out of the league.

I genuinely don't know. Not just because I expect LeBron to part-own a team, but I think the kid might be a credible role player at some point as long as his health holds.

in order for him to be a credible role player, he needs to play defense and shoot 3's

he's 6'1.5, so as a defender, he's really limited to guarding some 1's and some smaller 2's and he needs to learn how to shoot. his comps should be... gary payton II or deuce but those guys were good defenders coming out of college, and bronny doesn't seem to be there quite yet though they say he has good instincts and he's certainly athletic enough with an nba ready body. probably an uphill climb for him to get there though

[Ghetto Gospel]

You're right - confused the Wagners. So it's no Mo' Franz.

I mean, Mo Wagner is a very capable player, ideal back up. IDK wtf they are doing down there with their 4 centers all making legit money and 2 best players being big wings.

They are big, really big. Maybe the biggest team in the league. It’s one of the reasons they gave the Knicks trouble and they would have beat the Cavs in the playoffs if Franz didn’t get the Yips.

franz strikes me as a guy that can produce against lesser teams/defenses but will struggle mightily against good wing defenders and against higher quality defenses. he's still young though so, maybe he'll get there eventually

[nykballa2k4]

I mean, Mo Wagner is a very capable player, ideal back up. IDK wtf they are doing down there with their 4 centers all making legit money and 2 best players being big wings.

They are big, really big. Maybe the biggest team in the league. It’s one of the reasons they gave the Knicks trouble and they would have beat the Cavs in the playoffs if Franz didn’t get the Yips.

franz strikes me as a guy that can produce against lesser teams/defenses but will struggle mightily against good wing defenders and against higher quality defenses. he's still young though so, maybe he'll get there eventually

I think he is a solid B, C tier star. Magic need an elite guard IMO to go with those two and once that happens Magic will be scary.

[WargamesX]

They are big, really big. Maybe the biggest team in the league. It’s one of the reasons they gave the Knicks trouble and they would have beat the Cavs in the playoffs if Franz didn’t get the Yips.

franz strikes me as a guy that can produce against lesser teams/defenses but will struggle mightily against good wing defenders and against higher quality defenses. he's still young though so, maybe he'll get there eventually

I think he is a solid B, C tier star. Magic need an elite guard IMO to go with those two and once that happens Magic will be scary.

Lowkey they should have got Derozan.

Suggs
Derozan
Banchero
Franz
Carter

Is actually scary. Hell if they got KCP and Lopez they would have been scarier

Suggs
KCP
Banchero
Franz
Lopez

Is challenging for a top spot in the east if they could get a little bench production. They might do that trade later though….

[Guano]

That's an absurd amount of money for Franz Wagner.

[Guano]

Imagine doing this for Bradley Beal

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[stuporman]

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Ishbia came in to owning the Suns thinking he could just throw cash/assets around in the old star phucking fashion to try and instabuild a title contender but the league kinda did him dirty, too, by implementing all these Draconian cap rules almost immediately after he got himself into this mess.

Although, we as Knicks fans shouldn't be surprised at the woeful strategy that was used because his most cherished and closest basketball confidant is none other than the one and only Isiah Thomas whose machinations tortured us fans for years even after he left.

[Ghetto Gospel]

They are big, really big. Maybe the biggest team in the league. It’s one of the reasons they gave the Knicks trouble and they would have beat the Cavs in the playoffs if Franz didn’t get the Yips.

franz strikes me as a guy that can produce against lesser teams/defenses but will struggle mightily against good wing defenders and against higher quality defenses. he's still young though so, maybe he'll get there eventually

I think he is a solid B, C tier star. Magic need an elite guard IMO to go with those two and once that happens Magic will be scary.

i'm not sure an elite guard would solve all their issues when their 2 best players aren't shooters. of course, this is all pending because franz and paolo developing a consistent shot is definitely possible but they basically must play a stretch 5. they will have spacing issues even then when they have those 2 on the court.

at that point it might just be a better allocation of resources to swap out franz for an elite 3/d wing rather than the secondary/tertiary creator that franz is when they have that on their roster already with paolo who may even be a legit primary one day