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Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0 

Post#901 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jul 6, 2024 12:36 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Warriors.htm

Golden State has the 2025, 2027, and 2030 top 20 protected picks right now to offer. Guessing 2029 and 2031 is tied up because of the protections on 2030 because we don't know if it will convey but they can trade it. They can offer pick swaps in 2026,2028, and 2029. My guess is Ainge wants more or waiting to hear if Spurs can top this offer.



Pretty sure he’d rather trade to the East than pair Lauri with Wemby for the next 10 years, or even with Curry. Shooters usually last much longer.

I don't think Ainge cares tbh. He's going to trade him to highest bidder bar non just like he did trading Goebert to the T-Wolves. This is going to be a draft capital deal with a young player or two involved. If Golden State decides to throw in Kuminga then that's a lottery weighted player. Jovic was a late first rd pick and JJJ was picked at 18.

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Post#903 » by Lennyzinho » Sat Jul 6, 2024 12:52 am

heater4life wrote:I see everyone emptying the asset cupboard for Lauri plucking Markennen?!?!?!?

Is this guy a perineal all star in some other league im unaware of?!?!?!?

A bunch of you guys are deranged for change. Getting rid of Herro, Jovic and JJJ for LM would be absolute trash!!!


He's 27, hit his stride at 25 which is pretty normal development for a very good all-star lvl dude (yes he was an all star 2022-2023) but not an all nba type dude (those guys are often good or great at a younger age).

I def trade Herro and Jovic (Lauri is the absolute best case of what jovic can become and would replace him in lineup so you add him) and two frps : is what I'd send. I wouldn't send JJJ. And yes Lauri has missed alot of games but he also keeps getting shut down cuz teams he's on want to tank. So it's hard to know how many games he's truly missed due to injury. But he's gonna be so expensive, I think jazz would want herro Ware jovic jjj and all picks and forget it. Never happening. Lauri to Miami will never ever happen.

BUT.... he is good. Don't sleep on that guy.

The Ringer has him as the 28th best player and call him a devastating outside shooter who has thrived in new home with added responsibility and opportunity.

You wonder how many Markkanens are out there in the NBA, languishing on a bench, being misused, or being improperly evaluated by a front office or coaching staff. The sweet-shooting 7-footer became an All-Star in 2022-23 as the primary scorer during Utah’s shockingly un-tanky campaign.

This season has seen a more somber, sad-trumpet version of the Jazz. I saw a headline recently that read, “Lauri Markkanen on the emptiness of losing teammates at the trade deadline,” which is not what you want. Markkanen has been the major bright spot in these past two weird Jazz seasons. As the club flits between Cinderella story and extreme home makeover, Markkanen continues to produce at a high level, but you have to wonder whether his services could be put to better use on a team with loftier current ambitions.
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Post#905 » by wade44 » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:24 am

Summer league far more intriguing than the upcoming Heat season. Refreshing to see guys who haven’t earned their bags yet eager to make a good first impression on their new teams
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Post#906 » by Bourne85 » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:27 am

Lauri Markennan is not the answer. At all. This is just another hole we are trying to patch up on the sinking titanic. There is NO player out there that is available that will push us into contention/favorites. The right move is to rebuild.

Just imagine for one second that it was Ainge in charge right now instead of Sleepy Pat. What would Ainge do? He would trade Jimmy for a Gobert like haul. He would probably trade Bam as well as he too would command an insane haul. We are in PERFECT position to rebuild. What we are not, is in position to compete for a ring.

Its long been over. It’s time to hit up the lottery and land our next Wade. Our next 2 way SG/SF stud. Stop trying to fix this mess, Derozan isnt it, Lauri is overrated and will be highly overpaid soon. It’s time to suck a few seasons to have a chance at a brighter future.
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Post#907 » by DayofMourning » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:27 am

Riley "expected" to show interest?

Deal should be done soon.
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Post#908 » by wade44 » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:28 am

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Markenen about to get paid after the coming season. Jazz just passing the hot potato elsewhere
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Post#909 » by Bourne85 » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:32 am

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Markenen about to get paid after the coming season. Jazz just passing the hot potato elsewhere


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Post#910 » by DayofMourning » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:34 am

Bourne85 wrote:Lauri Markennan is not the answer. At all. This is just another hole we are trying to patch up on the sinking titanic. There is NO player out there that is available that will push us into contention/favorites. The right move is to rebuild.

Just imagine for one second that it was Ainge in charge right now instead of Sleepy Pat. What would Ainge do? He would trade Jimmy for a Gobert like haul. He would probably trade Bam as well as he too would command an insane haul. We are in PERFECT position to rebuild. What we are not, is in position to compete for a ring.

Its long been over. It’s time to hit up the lottery and land our next Wade. Our next 2 way SG/SF stud. Stop trying to fix this mess, Derozan isnt it, Lauri is overrated and will be highly overpaid soon. It’s time to suck a few seasons to have a chance at a brighter future.


Bam wont be going anywhere, but Butler surely should. Thank you for making us relevant again JB. I will continue to thank you as I look forward to the draft.
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Post#911 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:36 am

DayofMourning wrote:Riley "expected" to show interest?

Deal should be done soon.

If Markkanan says “Miami Only” done deal. Godfather always gets his man. That 2030 first will outbid everyone :nod:
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Post#912 » by Beenie » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:37 am

Bourne85 wrote:Lauri Markennan is not the answer. At all. This is just another hole we are trying to patch up on the sinking titanic. There is NO player out there that is available that will push us into contention/favorites. The right move is to rebuild.

Just imagine for one second that it was Ainge in charge right now instead of Sleepy Pat. What would Ainge do? He would trade Jimmy for a Gobert like haul. He would probably trade Bam as well as he too would command an insane haul. We are in PERFECT position to rebuild. What we are not, is in position to compete for a ring.

Its long been over. It’s time to hit up the lottery and land our next Wade. Our next 2 way SG/SF stud. Stop trying to fix this mess, Derozan isnt it, Lauri is overrated and will be highly overpaid soon. It’s time to suck a few seasons to have a chance at a brighter future.


East isn’t an open/shut contest.

If Mia were bolstered by a Lauri addition and managed to stay healthy come the post season, they’re every bit the contenders as anyone in the conference.
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Post#913 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:51 am

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Post#914 » by Enso » Sat Jul 6, 2024 1:55 am

lol ^

I like Lauri even more now cause Wades the reason I got so into basketball too. Was a huge hockey / soccer fan before that .
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Post#915 » by Wiltside » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:11 am

Are we certain Lauri’s porcelain Finnish skin can deal with the Miami sun?! Sounds like a health hazard to me
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Post#916 » by HeatFan_NC » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:31 am

Amazing how no one was talking about Lauri when he played for CHI. If he can blossom into a player that's coveted, why can't Jovic or JJJ do the same?

What if BOS had given up on Tatum or Brown after we repeatedly punked them in the playoffs?

Maybe we should give our young guys some time to grow together.
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Post#917 » by carnageta » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:46 am

JJJ + Jovic + Herro + FRPs is just the wrong move for Lauri and change.

Honestly rather just run it back lol.
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Post#918 » by Wiltside » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:52 am

carnageta wrote:JJJ + Jovic + Herro + FRPs is just the wrong move for Lauri and change.

Honestly rather just run it back lol.


I agree. I like Lauri, but that’s an overpay. Particularly as we’re still likely worse than a number of teams in the East even after acquiring him.
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Post#919 » by carnageta » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:54 am

JJJ + Jovic + Herro + FRPs for Donovan Mitchell I would have done. Lauri? Not a chance.


Jovic + Herro + filler + FRPs for Lauri + change? I would do. JJJ is the deal breaker, imo. Get Lauri here without giving up Jaime.

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