[Wojnarowski]: Wagner Extends In Orlando (5/$224M)

Post #1 » by **bondom34** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:44 am

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babyjax13 · Post #2 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:02 am

Good for Orlando and Franz, they've locked up a significant part of their future.

Post #3 » by **zimpy27** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:08 am

Not in to it tbh

He's a nice player but not a 25% of cap player IMO.

20% sure.

Colbinii · Post #4 » by **Colbinii** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:26 am

babyjax13 wrote:Good for Orlando and Franz, they've locked up a significant part of their future.

Locking up the future isn't always good

Godaddycurse · Post #5 » by **Godaddycurse** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:33 am

What does OP to boston mean

Slim Tubby · Post #6 » by **Slim Tubby** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:35 am

Who is better...Franz or Lauri?

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Post #7 » by **zimpy27** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:40 am

Godaddycurse wrote:What does OP to boston mean

Maybe OP copy and pasted a different title for the formatting

Post #8 » by **bondom34** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:08 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:What does OP to boston mean

Maybe OP copy and pasted a different title for the formatting

Darn, I hadn't noticed until now.

It auto filled from an old thread I believe and I didn't fix it, should be updated now.

tiderulz · Post #9 » by **tiderulz** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:44 am

Slim Tubby wrote:Who is better...Franz or Lauri?

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right now, Lauri. but he is 5 years older and 4 more years in the league. Franz is ahead of where he was year 3.

Colbinii · Post #10 » by **Colbinii** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 5:21 am

tiderulz wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:Who is better...Franz or Lauri?

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right now, Lauri. but he is 5 years older and 4 more years in the league. Franz is ahead of where he was year 3.

Yup, Franz is better now. Lauri had an unrealistic development curve and is currently at a level Franz likely never reaches (Top 30-ish guy).

Post #11 » by **Mavrelous** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 5:29 am

He's not a max player, I don't think I would've haggled over the difference when guys like quickly got 175/5 and OG got similar money.
Seems like teams are pricing in few years of 10% cap increases

Slim Charless · Post #12 » by **Slim Charless** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 6:10 am

Mavrelous wrote:He's not a max player, I don't think I would've haggled over the difference when guys like quickly got 175/5 and OG got similar money.
Seems like teams are pricing in few years of 10% cap increases

OG is better when healthy. He's a lockdown defender at multiple positions and can give you 20 a game or so. Comparing the 2, Franz is not as good.

Dr Positivity · Post #13 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 6:29 am

This could end badly. I’d have played out the year.

Post #14 » by **Mavrelous** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 6:55 am

Slim Charless wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:He's not a max player, I don't think I would've haggled over the difference when guys like quickly got 175/5 and OG got similar money.
Seems like teams are pricing in few years of 10% cap increases

OG is better when healthy. He's a lockdown defender at multiple positions and can give you 20 a game or so. Comparing the 2, Franz is not as good.

I don't think that's true, OG is a much better defender, but replace Franz with OG in ORL, you get a worse team, replace OG with Franz in NY and I'm not sure it's worse team.

tmorgan · Post #15 » by **tmorgan** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 6:55 am

Eep. I love my guy Franzy (go Blue!j, but if he’s a max rookie extension, so is Mobley, Sengun, Cade, and J Green. Barnes has probably been the best of the bunch thus far, but that was already done. In fact, I’m sure this deal has Suggs wanting his as well, given his improvement last year. I might be forgetting someone else, too — that’s a lot of max rookie extensions.

Telfaire · Post #16 » by **Telfaire** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 8:14 am

The wiretap headline here on REALGM says that Franz was extended with the Rose Designation:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276556/Franz-Wagner-Magic-Agree-To-Five-Year-$224M-Extension-With-Rose-Designation

Doesn't it mean that Orlando won't be able to hand out an extension with the Rose Designation to Paolo?

tiderulz · Post #17 » by **tiderulz** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 11:50 am

Colbinii wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:Who is better...Franz or Lauri?

Sent from my N152DL using RealGM mobile app

right now, Lauri. but he is 5 years older and 4 more years in the league. Franz is ahead of where he was year 3.

Yup, Franz is better now. Lauri had an unrealistic development curve and is currently at a level Franz likely never reaches (Top 30-ish guy).

so we already know at 22 what Franz's ceiling is? think you are calling it too soon.

tiderulz · Post #18 » by **tiderulz** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 11:51 am

Slim Charless wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:He's not a max player, I don't think I would've haggled over the difference when guys like quickly got 175/5 and OG got similar money.
Seems like teams are pricing in few years of 10% cap increases

OG is better when healthy. He's a lockdown defender at multiple positions and can give you 20 a game or so. Comparing the 2, Franz is not as good.

you know most of these are base on potential and he has shown more by year 3 than OG did. and more durable.

MotownMadness · Post #19 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 12:14 pm

As expected

orlando_joe · Post #20 » by **orlando_joe** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 12:38 pm

had hoped for less but expected...6'10 two way wings cost money not a lot of them