Next season

[zeebneeb]

The single biggest reason the Pistons sucked So much last year, was due to Monty Williams. Feel free to disagree with me, but I'll immediately point out the absolutely asinine bench clearing, 12 deep rotations, right in the middle of a run, that cost the team the possibility of a win, about 30 times.(conservative estimate)

Second was the injuries. It felt as if, as soon as one player was back, two more went down. When your a bad team, your end of bench depth is going to be horrendous, and oh boy, did last years team have terrible players at the end of the bench.

If I had to put just those two things in numbers, I would start with 20. 20 games that could have been wins, if the coaching wasn't just ASS, and the Pistons didn't run out a record setting number of different lineups/players.

JB seems like a solid coach, and the team did get better. If health prevails, and JB doesn't also sabotage the team, you could see the best season of Pistons basketball since 2018-19.

Do I expect 41 wins? Absolutely not. I think all of us would collectively **** our pants. What I do expect next year, is a well-coached, extremely young team, playing hard, night-in, and night-out.

25-41 wins, with my best guess being right around 30. Watchable. The Detroit Pistons are going to be Watchable next year. Bold claim, I know, but it feels like it's time.

[bstein14]

I think if we use our $22 million in cap space to add another starter level player, and we then use our room exception to add another rotation level player.... we'll almost certainly with 30-35 games. Not sure that's really our plan or not but if we add two more better rotation pieces, re-sign Font, and play our rookie sparingly until he learns how to shoot we could be a 10th seed in the East this year.

It's also possible we care more about trying to develop our young guys and less about trying to pull ourselves out of being awful into being below average.

[JennetteMcCurdy]

Factor in outright tanking from somemteams as this will be a very strong draft class. Detroit can't do that anymore overtly and will win games against overt tankers later in the season. I think Detroit will pick in the 8-10 range.

That’s exactly what we want heading into the 2025 draft.

[Kalamazoo317]

What starter level players are left in free agency? Derozen isn’t coming here.

[Invictus88]

What starter level players are left in free agency? Derozen isn’t coming here.

This.

[Cowology]

What starter level players are left in free agency? Derozen isn’t coming here.

Tyus is the only one who makes sense for me. I still want a vet PG.

[Kalamazoo317]

And he’s probably a back up on a good team

[vege]

What starter level players are left in free agency? Derozen isn’t coming here.

DeMar DeRozan
Tyus Jones
Miles Bridges
Isaac Okoro
Luke Kennard
Gary Trent Jr

Kyle Lowry
Gordon Hayward
Malike Beasley
Caleb Martin
Precious Achiuwa

There are still a ton of rotation level free agents. Most won't want our money tho.

[Kalamazoo317]

Fewer than half of those guys are starter level on a non-lottery team.

[zeebneeb]

I really like Precious. He plays hard, and is a perfect small ball C backup, good for 10-15mpg. Would have zero issues giving him a contract.

GTJ is interesting. He shoots the hell out of the ball. Doesn't turn it over, but that's just about it. He's a big guard, so he can double as a SF in a pinch, but doesn't much, other then score.

Smaller contract, no issue.

[Kalamazoo317]

Beasley signing probably takes us out of the GTJ market.

[vtime]

Trade Hardaway with Stewart for a high end starter. Kick the tires on if Markannen would sign the max extension

[Kalamazoo317]

Trade Hardaway with Stewart for a high end starter. Kick the tires on if Markannen would sign the max extension

What "high end starter" do you think a team is trading for Hardaway and Stew?

Edit: You know that doesn't even get Utah to pick up the phone on Markannen, right?

[Canadafan]

Trade Hardaway with Stewart for a high end starter. Kick the tires on if Markannen would sign the max extension

Thought I read Hardaway can only be traded alone right now since we just acquired him

[Piston Pete]

Tank for Flagg!!

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[Invictus88]

Trade Hardaway with Stewart for a high end starter. Kick the tires on if Markannen would sign the max extension

Thought I read Hardaway can only be traded alone right now since we just acquired him

If you receive the traded players into open cap space I believe you can trade them immediately. It's only if things go over that you can only trade singularly I believe.

Other folks more knowledgeable please correct me if I am wrong here.

[vege]

Trade Hardaway with Stewart for a high end starter. Kick the tires on if Markannen would sign the max extension

Thought I read Hardaway can only be traded alone right now since we just acquired him

If you receive the traded players into open cap space I believe you can trade them immediately. It's only if things go over that you can only trade singularly I believe.

Other folks more knowledgeable please correct me if I am wrong here.

As far as I know you are correct.

[Snakebites]

The single biggest reason the Pistons sucked So much last year, was due to Monty Williams. Feel free to disagree with me, but I'll immediately point out the absolutely asinine bench clearing, 12 deep rotations, right in the middle of a run, that cost the team the possibility of a win, about 30 times.(conservative estimate)

Second was the injuries. It felt as if, as soon as one player was back, two more went down. When your a bad team, your end of bench depth is going to be horrendous, and oh boy, did last years team have terrible players at the end of the bench.

If I had to put just those two things in numbers, I would start with 20. 20 games that could have been wins, if the coaching wasn't just ASS, and the Pistons didn't run out a record setting number of different lineups/players.

JB seems like a solid coach, and the team did get better. If health prevails, and JB doesn't also sabotage the team, you could see the best season of Pistons basketball since 2018-19.

Do I expect 41 wins? Absolutely not. I think all of us would collectively **** our pants. What I do expect next year, is a well-coached, extremely young team, playing hard, night-in, and night-out.

25-41 wins, with my best guess being right around 30. Watchable. The Detroit Pistons are going to be Watchable next year. Bold claim, I know, but it feels like it's time.

The roster was the biggest reason we sucked last year.

Monty made things worse, sure. He was the worst coach I’ve yet seen. But a GOAT level coach doesn’t take that roster anywhere either. Need to hope roster changes lead to improvement. A new coach may help some but that’s never going to be the primary driver. A coach gets you a few more wins- not much.

[Patrick27]

July is a helluva drug...

We have a new coach, a ton of new players, and a bunch of young players that don't know what winning looks like.

I'd be happy if Cade doesn't miss 20+ games again, and we develop a defensive identity. That's it. Anything else is gravy.

[7r5ur]

July is a helluva drug...

We have a new coach, a ton of new players, and a bunch of young players that don't know what winning looks like.

I'd be happy if Cade doesn't miss 20+ games again, and we develop a defensive identity. That's it. Anything else is gravy.

Worst part of the Langdon era so far. Still not one single vet that is a real plus defender on this team. Tobias and Fontecchio are fine. Not terrible, not good. Need someone there setting the example and communicating with the young guys on the floor.

Hopefully the plan is to flip THJ sooner rather than later to replace him with someone that defends. Still don't see the point of the 2 zero-defense 3-point specialist SG's to pair with our current zero-defense backcourt pairing.