2024 Free Agency

[TimberKat]

Sorry to bring this up again but looks like we have a 9M exception that we could use from the KA trade. Maybe bring in Jones? Or did we used it on Ingles?

I just read this: "Bobby Marks: One interesting wrinkle is that Minnesota is a second team and not allowed to use the $4M trade exception created in February from the Troy Brown trade. Pre-existing TE are not allowed. However, teams over the apron are allowed to use a new exception created. Ex: Year 1 of the Anderson salary is $9M. The Timberwolves can now acquire a player into the $9M exception and still exceed the apron."

[Colbinii]

Sorry to bring this up again but looks like we have a 9M exception that we could use from the KA trade. Maybe bring in Jones? Or did we used it on Ingles?

I just read this: "Bobby Marks: One interesting wrinkle is that Minnesota is a second team and not allowed to use the $4M trade exception created in February from the Troy Brown trade. Pre-existing TE are not allowed. However, teams over the apron are allowed to use a new exception created. Ex: Year 1 of the Anderson salary is $9M. The Timberwolves can now acquire a player into the $9M exception and still exceed the apron."

Yeah we should still have the exception.

It is almost guaranteed to be used (if it is used) closer to the deadline when the team knows what it needs to upgrade.

[BlacJacMac]

At the end of the day I am an arm chair QB like all of you. I don’t have to like or agree with TC’s decisions, I have to live with them. I think many of you like myself have been in this situation with prior GMs and POBOs and this is no different. If it all works out then it all works out. If it doesn’t, then we need to take a closer look at TC.

I know some of you will give me a list of his best moves, but I have always felt he overpaid for Gobert. If Minott fails he will have completely dropped the ball on the 22 draft. Kyle was a good signing at the time but a bad retention past the trade deadline of year 2. Shake failed, TBJ failed, we don’t know what we have in the 23 or 24 draft groups, but we know that TC gave away the only 2 draft assets we had left to trade to get RD. If RD succeeds he is a legend, if he flops then we are *******. For those eager to point to the second Jazz trade, Finch is the one who wanted NAW and TC passed on Dlo for Conley in the initial Gobert trade. Ultimately TC will be judged on the strength of the young players, and how these new signings do if they play. But giving TC huge credit for where we are overlooks so much and also credits him for things like drafting Ant and Jaden, developing Karl into a 4, hiring Finch, and so much more that he simply didn’t do.

What's your source for this?

I call BS that that was on the table then. Especially since we were the 3rd team in the eventual trade. The main principals of the deal were D'Lo to the Lakers and the Lakers pick to Utah. And I don't think many people expected that we'd end up with the 2 best assets from that trade.

When that trade was made the Lakers were still shooting for a better player with their last real chip. D'Lo was who they eventually settled on, but they were absolutely trying to land a bigger fish.

Funny thing is it turns out including us in the deal was a huge mistake for LA. They would've been so much better with Conley and NAW instead of D'Lo.

It was on one of the pods. Honestly I thought it was common knowledge? They talked about not wanting to send out Jaden and making the money work without Dlo who Utah offered to take in exchange for Conley. Check Flagrant howls or Dane Moore around the time of the deal. If not there than maybe locked on? I often have sports pods on in the background when I cook or workout, or do stuff that doesn’t require too much focus. When I am not listening to music or streaming something.

P.S, are you sure this is something that you didn’t just forget? I mean the Gobert trade got covered every which way and this was a plot point. Especially with Dlo expiring and the salary slot issues.

I never saw anything saying Conley/D'Lo could be part of the Gobert deal. Only that we added an extra 1 or 2 First Round picks to not include McDaniels. I would've remembered it because I would've flown to Minnesota and driven D'Lo to the airport to make it happen.

[BlacJacMac]

Sorry to bring this up again but looks like we have a 9M exception that we could use from the KA trade. Maybe bring in Jones? Or did we used it on Ingles?

I just read this: "Bobby Marks: One interesting wrinkle is that Minnesota is a second team and not allowed to use the $4M trade exception created in February from the Troy Brown trade. Pre-existing TE are not allowed. However, teams over the apron are allowed to use a new exception created. Ex: Year 1 of the Anderson salary is $9M. The Timberwolves can now acquire a player into the $9M exception and still exceed the apron."

I don't think we have it. Marks backed off of that shortly after posting that we had it.

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[winforlose]

What's your source for this?

I call BS that that was on the table then. Especially since we were the 3rd team in the eventual trade. The main principals of the deal were D'Lo to the Lakers and the Lakers pick to Utah. And I don't think many people expected that we'd end up with the 2 best assets from that trade.

When that trade was made the Lakers were still shooting for a better player with their last real chip. D'Lo was who they eventually settled on, but they were absolutely trying to land a bigger fish.

Funny thing is it turns out including us in the deal was a huge mistake for LA. They would've been so much better with Conley and NAW instead of D'Lo.

It was on one of the pods. Honestly I thought it was common knowledge? They talked about not wanting to send out Jaden and making the money work without Dlo who Utah offered to take in exchange for Conley. Check Flagrant howls or Dane Moore around the time of the deal. If not there than maybe locked on? I often have sports pods on in the background when I cook or workout, or do stuff that doesn’t require too much focus. When I am not listening to music or streaming something.

P.S, are you sure this is something that you didn’t just forget? I mean the Gobert trade got covered every which way and this was a plot point. Especially with Dlo expiring and the salary slot issues.

I never saw anything saying Conley/D'Lo could be part of the Gobert deal. Only that we added an extra 1 or 2 First Round picks to not include McDaniels. I would've remembered it because I would've flown to Minnesota and driven D'Lo to the airport to make it happen.

Did you watch a lot of the media coverage post trade? I am honestly asking because I find it somewhere between surprising and shocking that this is in dispute. Dlo was the subject of trade rumors at the time, Dane Moore was always talking about the salary slot, do we resign him, ect… Conley kept him to pair with Gobert to revitalize him, like when he was in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allen. Is any of this ringing a bell?

[jpatrick]

Sorry to bring this up again but looks like we have a 9M exception that we could use from the KA trade. Maybe bring in Jones? Or did we used it on Ingles?

I just read this: "Bobby Marks: One interesting wrinkle is that Minnesota is a second team and not allowed to use the $4M trade exception created in February from the Troy Brown trade. Pre-existing TE are not allowed. However, teams over the apron are allowed to use a new exception created. Ex: Year 1 of the Anderson salary is $9M. The Timberwolves can now acquire a player into the $9M exception and still exceed the apron."

Yeah we should still have the exception.

It is almost guaranteed to be used (if it is used) closer to the deadline when the team knows what it needs to upgrade.

As noted above, looks like we don’t have it. But even if we did, we’re not bringing in anyone outside vet minimums until we get out of the second apron. Others will know better than me but adding that $9m player would cost us like $50m in real dollars. Not happening.

[KGdaBom]

Sorry to bring this up again but looks like we have a 9M exception that we could use from the KA trade. Maybe bring in Jones? Or did we used it on Ingles?

I just read this: "Bobby Marks: One interesting wrinkle is that Minnesota is a second team and not allowed to use the $4M trade exception created in February from the Troy Brown trade. Pre-existing TE are not allowed. However, teams over the apron are allowed to use a new exception created. Ex: Year 1 of the Anderson salary is $9M. The Timberwolves can now acquire a player into the $9M exception and still exceed the apron."

This trade exception situation is like a soap opera.

[KGdaBom]

Sorry to bring this up again but looks like we have a 9M exception that we could use from the KA trade. Maybe bring in Jones? Or did we used it on Ingles?

I just read this: "Bobby Marks: One interesting wrinkle is that Minnesota is a second team and not allowed to use the $4M trade exception created in February from the Troy Brown trade. Pre-existing TE are not allowed. However, teams over the apron are allowed to use a new exception created. Ex: Year 1 of the Anderson salary is $9M. The Timberwolves can now acquire a player into the $9M exception and still exceed the apron."

Yeah we should still have the exception.

It is almost guaranteed to be used (if it is used) closer to the deadline when the team knows what it needs to upgrade.

Exactly. See how Dilly, Shannon and Miller are doing first.

[KGdaBom]

What's your source for this?

I call BS that that was on the table then. Especially since we were the 3rd team in the eventual trade. The main principals of the deal were D'Lo to the Lakers and the Lakers pick to Utah. And I don't think many people expected that we'd end up with the 2 best assets from that trade.

When that trade was made the Lakers were still shooting for a better player with their last real chip. D'Lo was who they eventually settled on, but they were absolutely trying to land a bigger fish.

Funny thing is it turns out including us in the deal was a huge mistake for LA. They would've been so much better with Conley and NAW instead of D'Lo.

It was on one of the pods. Honestly I thought it was common knowledge? They talked about not wanting to send out Jaden and making the money work without Dlo who Utah offered to take in exchange for Conley. Check Flagrant howls or Dane Moore around the time of the deal. If not there than maybe locked on? I often have sports pods on in the background when I cook or workout, or do stuff that doesn’t require too much focus. When I am not listening to music or streaming something.

P.S, are you sure this is something that you didn’t just forget? I mean the Gobert trade got covered every which way and this was a plot point. Especially with Dlo expiring and the salary slot issues.

I never saw anything saying Conley/D'Lo could be part of the Gobert deal. Only that we added an extra 1 or 2 First Round picks to not include McDaniels. I would've remembered it because I would've flown to Minnesota and driven D'Lo to the airport to make it happen.

I never heard a whisper of D Lo being a part of the Gobert deal and even if it could have been so what. Connelly did trade D Lo for NAW, Conley and 2 2nd round picks. If we're going to hold Connelly responsible for every possible deal he could have made we've gone over the top. Using that logic I'm sure there's a rookie drafted late who is going to turn into a good player. Connelly could have traded for that rookie, but didn't. Connelly sucks.

[KGdaBom]

It was on one of the pods. Honestly I thought it was common knowledge? They talked about not wanting to send out Jaden and making the money work without Dlo who Utah offered to take in exchange for Conley. Check Flagrant howls or Dane Moore around the time of the deal. If not there than maybe locked on? I often have sports pods on in the background when I cook or workout, or do stuff that doesn’t require too much focus. When I am not listening to music or streaming something.

P.S, are you sure this is something that you didn’t just forget? I mean the Gobert trade got covered every which way and this was a plot point. Especially with Dlo expiring and the salary slot issues.

I never saw anything saying Conley/D'Lo could be part of the Gobert deal. Only that we added an extra 1 or 2 First Round picks to not include McDaniels. I would've remembered it because I would've flown to Minnesota and driven D'Lo to the airport to make it happen.

Did you watch a lot of the media coverage post trade? I am honestly asking because I find it somewhere between surprising and shocking that this is in dispute. Dlo was the subject of trade rumors at the time, Dane Moore was always talking about the salary slot, do we resign him, ect… Conley kept him to pair with Gobert to revitalize him, like when he was in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allen. Is any of this ringing a bell?

Nope.
But even if it did so what. Connelly did trade D Lo for NAW, Conley and 2 2nds. Congratz Connelly.

[winforlose]

I never saw anything saying Conley/D'Lo could be part of the Gobert deal. Only that we added an extra 1 or 2 First Round picks to not include McDaniels. I would've remembered it because I would've flown to Minnesota and driven D'Lo to the airport to make it happen.

Did you watch a lot of the media coverage post trade? I am honestly asking because I find it somewhere between surprising and shocking that this is in dispute. Dlo was the subject of trade rumors at the time, Dane Moore was always talking about the salary slot, do we resign him, ect… Conley kept him to pair with Gobert to revitalize him, like when he was in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allen. Is any of this ringing a bell?

Nope.
But even if it did so what. Connelly did trade D Lo for NAW, Conley and 2 2nds. Congratz Connelly.

Is there a reason you responded twice?

[KGdaBom]

Did you watch a lot of the media coverage post trade? I am honestly asking because I find it somewhere between surprising and shocking that this is in dispute. Dlo was the subject of trade rumors at the time, Dane Moore was always talking about the salary slot, do we resign him, ect… Conley kept him to pair with Gobert to revitalize him, like when he was in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allen. Is any of this ringing a bell?

Nope.
But even if it did so what. Connelly did trade D Lo for NAW, Conley and 2 2nds. Congratz Connelly.

Is there a reason you responded twice?

Similar response, but to two different posts. You've made the same response a hundred times. W4L I appreciate you so much here, but for the second season in a row you imagine some doom and gloom scenario and go off with a massive tirade about how we have to prepare for the doom and gloom scenario.

[winforlose]

Nope.
But even if it did so what. Connelly did trade D Lo for NAW, Conley and 2 2nds. Congratz Connelly.

Is there a reason you responded twice?

Similar response, but to two different posts. You've made the same response a hundred times. W4L I appreciate you so much here, but for the second season in a row you imagine some doom and gloom scenario and go off with a massive campaign for us to prepare for the doom and gloom.

Honest question. Do you remember all the times I said we are gonna win the NBA championship last year? Or failing that all the times I said we have the best starting 5? The best bench? I am not Mr. Doom and Gloom, I am the guy who says all carry an umbrella when the weather says it’s likely to rain.

[KGdaBom]

Is there a reason you responded twice?

Similar response, but to two different posts. You've made the same response a hundred times. W4L I appreciate you so much here, but for the second season in a row you imagine some doom and gloom scenario and go off with a massive campaign for us to prepare for the doom and gloom.

Honest question. Do you remember all the times I said we are gonna win the NBA championship last year? Or failing that all the times I said we have the best starting 5? The best bench? I am not Mr. Doom and Gloom, I am the guy who says all carry an umbrella when the weather says it’s likely to rain.

You are mostly positive. We don't need to carry an umbrella here. We need the room to pack sunscreen.

[BlacJacMac]

It was on one of the pods. Honestly I thought it was common knowledge? They talked about not wanting to send out Jaden and making the money work without Dlo who Utah offered to take in exchange for Conley. Check Flagrant howls or Dane Moore around the time of the deal. If not there than maybe locked on? I often have sports pods on in the background when I cook or workout, or do stuff that doesn’t require too much focus. When I am not listening to music or streaming something.

P.S, are you sure this is something that you didn’t just forget? I mean the Gobert trade got covered every which way and this was a plot point. Especially with Dlo expiring and the salary slot issues.

I never saw anything saying Conley/D'Lo could be part of the Gobert deal. Only that we added an extra 1 or 2 First Round picks to not include McDaniels. I would've remembered it because I would've flown to Minnesota and driven D'Lo to the airport to make it happen.

Did you watch a lot of the media coverage post trade? I am honestly asking because I find it somewhere between surprising and shocking that this is in dispute. Dlo was the subject of trade rumors at the time, Dane Moore was always talking about the salary slot, do we resign him, ect… Conley kept him to pair with Gobert to revitalize him, like when he was in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allen. Is any of this ringing a bell?

Yes, I watched a ton of Wolves coverage afterwards.

No, its not ringing a bell at all. I would've been irate if we had a chance to dump D'Lo for Conley and didn't.

[KGdaBom]

I never saw anything saying Conley/D'Lo could be part of the Gobert deal. Only that we added an extra 1 or 2 First Round picks to not include McDaniels. I would've remembered it because I would've flown to Minnesota and driven D'Lo to the airport to make it happen.

Did you watch a lot of the media coverage post trade? I am honestly asking because I find it somewhere between surprising and shocking that this is in dispute. Dlo was the subject of trade rumors at the time, Dane Moore was always talking about the salary slot, do we resign him, ect… Conley kept him to pair with Gobert to revitalize him, like when he was in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allen. Is any of this ringing a bell?

Yes, I watched a ton of Wolves coverage afterwards.

No, its not ringing a bell at all. I would've been irate if we had a chance to dump D'Lo for Conley and didn't.

It worked out for the best. In the end we not only traded D'Lo for Conley, but we also got NAW and 2 2nd round picks.

[minimus]

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What are our chances to sign Graham as 3rd string PG?

[winforlose]

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What are our chances to sign Graham as 3rd string PG?

Depends on how much of PJ’s money is guaranteed, whether Graham can get more money elsewhere, TC wants Graham, ect… my guess, not great.

[winforlose]

I never saw anything saying Conley/D'Lo could be part of the Gobert deal. Only that we added an extra 1 or 2 First Round picks to not include McDaniels. I would've remembered it because I would've flown to Minnesota and driven D'Lo to the airport to make it happen.

Did you watch a lot of the media coverage post trade? I am honestly asking because I find it somewhere between surprising and shocking that this is in dispute. Dlo was the subject of trade rumors at the time, Dane Moore was always talking about the salary slot, do we resign him, ect… Conley kept him to pair with Gobert to revitalize him, like when he was in Brooklyn with Jarrett Allen. Is any of this ringing a bell?

Yes, I watched a ton of Wolves coverage afterwards.

No, its not ringing a bell at all. I would've been irate if we had a chance to dump D'Lo for Conley and didn't.

Well then it’s a good thing you missed it, at least for your blood pressure and keeping your kidnapping record clear (based on your earlier comments involving Dlo .)

[TimberKat]

They talked about not wanting to send out Jaden and making the money work without Dlo who Utah offered to take in exchange for Conley.

I never heard a whisper of D Lo being a part of the Gobert deal and even if it could have been so what.

The initial trade of not including DLo was the right move anyway. We assume Gobert would help DLo and DLo would play like he did with Allen in BKN. DLo was younger and better scorer than Conley. It's unfortunate for whatever reason, DLo didn't like Gobert. Maybe DLo sees the trade as the reason he won't get a max contract? The good DLo is a step up from Conley but just doesn't show up often.